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Here's my examples of this cross - two are similar crest but the the other one has the really closely spaced ribs - and is putting out a very pretty little columnar - I'm curious to see what happens to the columnar section - will it go crested and I'll have a "crest on a stick" or some such thing? The one in the back started out monstrose, then went dichotomous and both columns are normal thus far.

I will start by saying THANK YOU to all the generous people here, I have been give lots of goodies here & figure it's time to give back . As the title says I have fresh N.r & N.t seed to give out. I have 10 packs of each so please post here what you would like & PM me your postage details. Cheers jox

Ms Validus is the quiet type, doesn't seem to drink much, but I am sure as we get to know each other better she will open up ha ha Bog frog, divorce is imminent for sure, one Validus too many, put her over the edge. I shall commiserate by buying another cactus

Sure. I'm going with more smaller plants/cuttings but not seeds, which really seems to be the main distinction between what this trading thread almost became and the regular thread. Maybe lowering the stakes a little and makes shipping more affordable will help the thread along? EDIT: I'm going to put a 2 week limit on this offer - after that time I will reinstate or replace it with another offer. 20130228 - updated offer 20130307 - new post, new offer

All pack were sent out today. I even included a partridge in a pear tree as stated in opening post. The winners of the competition will get a smile out of the package. ...wait and see... it might be a loose spider, or some other surprise... mwaahhhahhhahhaa! Tee hee. <___base_url___>/uploads/emoticons/default_smile.png Edit:... I shouldn't get yous too excited,,,, cause it's nothing really exciting ,,,, I should have just said... "you will get a smile out of the package"

Bad Boy Bubby was a movie I watched recently and it still sticks freshly in my mind. Things were seen that cannot be unseen but I still walked away really impressed by it and glad to have watched it.

I think it would be nice to have a system where different people growing the same clone can put all their images in one place. The best thing I can think of (at the moment), would be a wiki (users and passwords requested by SAB members, to then edit the wiki). This way there can be a bunch of photos (helping to show that the same clone can look completely different in different environments), and there'd be no bottleneck in terms of editing (wouldn't be a big job for any one person).

Here is an update of the second plant from my last post.

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Much respect to the members who made the camping trip such a tripped out tripper of a trip <___base_url___>/uploads/emoticons/default_newimprovedwinkonclear.gif . You guys are true brothers and sisters. Thank-you and a big shout out to THCixx420for making the island available to us to play around in/on and for providing the canoes/pa/generator etc and general knowledge of the place for all of us to immerse ourselves in mother natures bounties. It was beautiful to share the tunes,laughs,food, time and space with all you like minded souls. cheers crew

Heh I have 80cm and 30cm plants (about to gift my 8cm baby), but germinating this guy from seed is of personal importance to me I found a reptile heat mat on ebay for $8 delivered... my thoughts now, based on your suggestions, are to place the a near-sealed plastic container with the seeds in sphagnum on a tile on the mat, and use a thermostat so that when ambient temps are above 30° summer 25° winter I'll trigger the mat on, letting the seeds cool relatively overnight for temperature fluctuations. Keep it moist, wait a few months, cross fingers?

I did not find this discussed here (using a keyword search) but suspect many have already seen this? If not, these two 'performance art' activists are worth watching if only to be amazed at their nerve. "The yes men fix the world" They also have an earlier one out also but this is by far the better of the two.

i love the lorax, he speaks for the trees ! in uni days my friends and i would get ripped, gather 'round and do dr seuss readings for each other... it was always my fave, delighted to find the movie worked out well

Hi Jwerta Hey yea I had the same thing a few months back. Had 2 cuttings in my garage. Looked pretty much the same as yours. Albino freak pups ! Mine were also poppin little root nodes out side in search for water n food. They were ultimately tortured. ..I was thinking of cutting them up for "experimental purposes" ...... but they spoke to me hehehe...so i changed my mind....i thought these little buggers are tough and have endured alot of hardship ..they deserve to have a good go at life. so.....one i buried in ground, just on surface . Whole stock in ground sideways with little albino pup raised to the sun. It went well. Turned green and started to take off up right. Going well. The other i decided to take advantage of thin growth and use it as a grafting stock. i grafted a small loph button cutting on it. It took within a a few weeks. It swelled up and is going well. I think this thin growth is a good idea for grafting use. You can use fat stock cuttings with this thin growth and the lophs take to it really well.

Why swim? Caapi is okay to grow, it's when you aim to make an extraction that you start running into difficulties. Caapi is fairly straightforward if you are used to cuttings, sometimes layering along the ground, or aerial layers can work too. But it's good to try the search engine, there is heaps of great info here and you can get involved in long running conversations asking about the details.

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"In February last year, for instance, the FBI requested help to develop a social-media mining application for monitoring "bad actors or groups". The jig's up Caruso...doesn't feel too good to be on the other side of the law, does it, huh?...you wooden, smug sonofabitch.

Sounds like you Melbourne guys know how to have a good meet. Im so jealous you got to play with the drifter for a whole weekend. .......no Im seriously fucking jealous !!! Drifting around in canoes with the drifter, double drifting you guys are greedy.

Ive seen an awsome set up to keep those scavanger ibis away, It was a large fake hawk, looked like paper mache or something with kite material for wings, it was positioned so that it cast a large shadow over the wall where all the ibis roosted and shat, once up I never saw them return. very effective. Heres one i found online.. http://birdsoff.com.au/scare-hawk-decoy-free-shipping/

I can't believe people are finding the no pour tek so hard. It's a piece of piss and it's definitely the way to go. Mix the liquids of your agar recipe, I use Stamets MYEA recipe (have tried others and will use them when ingredients aren't available). Mix in the powders, malt extract is best in powdered form, light malt, not dark malt. It's pretty much another sugar. No you don't want maltodextrin. Heat and dissolve the powders. Slowly stir in your agar and bring to the boil, keep stirring, it will boil over. Let it cool slightly, or not if you are pouring from a turkish coffee pot, with the nice long handle. Put sauce containers all over your bench and pour a good 30 of them. Leave the lids off, let those suckers cool right down to room temp. Then put lids on them all. I then stack them in towers of 8. I put each stack of 8 into a 80mm wide PP bag, I fold the bottom under and I put them in my PC. So I tend to PC four towers of 8, each in their own bags. Also, put your scalpel or pin or knife or tweezers or lock picking tool into a PP bag, add a drop of water and roll up, put that in your PC too. You could seal the bags up with sandwich bag twist ties. Let the PC come to heat until it's blowing steam with gusto. Then add the weight. Once the weight starts dancing set your timer for 60 mins and set the temp right so the weight is just dancing a little. After 60 mins, turn off the heat. Come back the following day to a completely cooled PC and carry it to your running hood. Open it in your hood and get to work. If you don't use all your plates, don't worry, they are double sealed from contams.

Well,as predicted the flowers are blooming,however somewhere someone posted an article mentioning that the Acacia flowers are; pro·to·gy·nous[proh-tuh-jahy-nuhs, -gahy-, proh-toj-uh-nuhs] Show IPAadjective Botany . of or pertaining to a flower in which the shedding of pollen occurs after the stigma has stopped being receptive; having female sex organs maturing before the male. Also, proterogynous. So I suspect I'll be pollinating manually. The rods that emerged last spring are in bloom,while the rods that emerged this past fall are almost to the point of blooming. I've got my tiny paint brush and am ready to go. It's disturbing how little information there is regarding manual Acacia pollination,

coolness.. yeah i've seen a ton of evidence that its genetic... but i've also seen evidence that the cristate germ or whatever can spread to a scion from a graft.... I wonder though if genetic could possibly be something to do with the plant packaging some of the infecting agent into the seeds or maybe even it changing the dna or something.. I know with Pachycereus Pringlei, the plant packages a bacteria with its seeds, which grow in the roots and help break down rocks in the plants early age to aide the plant with absorbing minerals in strange soil free rock crevaces... but im just wondering if there could be some simlar effect with monstrous triches http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pachycereus_pringlei The plant I have which I think is like an ecuadorian pach that looks like your TPQC has absolutely no sign of anything cristate whatsoever, except a little part of a tip that didn't grow right looks sort like a blue chicken leg or something lol... I think its more like an ecuadorian pach cause it still reminds me more of kimnach.... it certainly clumps like kimnach but not to say its not just some random other plant... Beautiful plant and very nice monsters you have btw

Noticed that my grafted section of TPM x SS02 is starting to grow - woo! This is my mutant project - we have a T bridgesii cristata, a caesposita, and now this cross growing on the same pachanoi: And I potted up my favorites from 3 Australia hybrid seed batches I grew out: Super Pedro x J3: Super Pedro x Psycho0: T bridgesii "Bruce" x T. macrogonus "sausage"/(Yowie?) Also, anyone know what strain this is? I totally dig this fat blue peruvianoid from Australia - heard maybe it was "Sharxx Blue" or something? I got it with a a cutting of Roseii 1 and Roseii 2 - I prefer this to either of those I think..

Well if I had to live on an island with 4 A caapi, a phleb, and a nice blue bridgie. And every winter subs came up everywhere. ....Im not greedy.

Did I say i was finished? From Feb 1 and 2.

is anyone keen for a meet at mine?? we have decided we are leaveing perth in 4 weeks. So we've got bullshit amounts of plants to find homes for

No this is just a small offset that was cut from the first one that Hellonasty sold on ebay. The clone itself doesn't have a lot of spines but they tend to be bigger than on the other clone that has been around for a while imo. Myco I will eventually be offering this into the community but I will be propagating it heavily first and they will be grafts that I will be making available but I cant see this happening for another year or so I don't want to see these just disappear into someones collection or be a money making venture. These should be available to any one that wants to add one to there collection. If that makes them common so be it. Cheers Got

I've been meaning to start a thread detailing what we've been up to at the nursery and to put up some cool photos. Finally got around to it Cacti Over the last couple of days I have re-listed over 200 cacti with more to come shortly. Get 'em while you can. Photos will be added for all listed cacti too. Strains already listed include: E. lageniformis - 'Hans', 'Jess', 'Con', 'Tim', ' ', 'Bruce', 'Kai', 'Eileen'. E. peruviana - 'San Pedro de Pasco', ssp. puquiensis KK1689, KK2152, 'Los Gentiles', 'Len', 'Icaro', KK1688, KK338. E. pachanoi - 'Mike', '2', 'Rob', 'Omar', KK2150, 'Alf', ' '. E. sp. 'Lance', E. uyumpompensis , E. cephalomacrostibalis KK1421, E. macrogona KK2151, E. tarmensis KK2148, E. glauca KK336, E. l ongispinus KK1670, E. glauca, E. sp. ' Juul's Giant' x E. pachanoi ' '. E. lageniformis & E. pachanoi 30cm - 1m for pick up only have also been added. Let me know if you're looking for something that is not currently listed & I'll see what I can do Note that cacti are now sold as either standard size (75mm pot) or large (140mm pot). It was becoming troublesome to track the size of them on the webstore as they grew from one size category to the next. Standard cacti are usually at least 10cm, although a couple of strains may be slightly shorter, while large cacti are generally at least 15cm. The photos below show some of the bigger cacti available for pick up, including a funky pup on a E. lageniformis JAC007 Wax Melt and a selection of recent E. pachanoi 'Super Pedro' propagation cuts Other Listings I have just re-listed 'Gold' and 'Black' Banisteriopsis caapi strains. See photos below of B. caapi 'Gold' including a cutting with a cool mutant leaf. We have a bunch of cool plants that will be listed shortly, including Pausinystalia yohimbe, Theobroma cacao, Moringa oleifera, Centella asiatica and Gynostemma pentaphyllum, and I will shortly be propagating Alicia sp. (Black Ayahuasca Vine). cheers, Toast

Hey guys, I was just thinking we all have different favourite plants for different uses. so i was just thinking what are your top ten plants that you couldn't do without?

ask mindperformer, where he got his one from. i'm proud to say, that the plant, pictured at the above link, was the source for herbalistics kava. aswell, i might say, that the original plant was a gift from tort, but sab doesn't sell kava plants anymore. further more, even the original importer of this plant, steven told me, he gave up on it, and now he does brugs and frangipanis. http://www.sacredgardenfrangipanis.com/angels-trumpets/index.php

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Check this out, its a limited edition "reggie doll" made from the janitor who died from cleaning toxic waste . These guys are my new heroes http://www.theconnextion.com/yesmen/yesmen_index.cfm

Psychoactive ethnos: Banisteriopsis caapi Cannabis sp.Erythroxylum novogranatenseMimosa hostilisNicotinia sp. Papaver somniferum Piper methysticum Psyilocybe sp. Salvia divinorum Tabernanthe iboga Non-psychoactive ethnos... that's a tricky one. Timber, wheat, fruit, chilli, various herbs & sphagnum come to mind And the boab is one cool tree, there's no denying it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gija_Jumulu

the boab, is an ethno plant, ethno means of use/benefit to humans. the seeds of the boab, are said to be high in vitamin c for example, and can be stored for a long time. some people claim, that ancient seafarers carried those seeds, and avoided scorbut. it's one of my favorites aswell, and i planted one out in my garden.

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Yeah should of phrased that better. Just saying that it was possible for them to I did put an IMO

I can't take pics or pull up weeds like hellonasty but I do have some to show off.. there seems to be two different types of crest coming from Nitrogen's seeds when do we officially name them in some that embarrassingly refers back to Nitrogen?

Mindperformer, I got Spunwhirllin his seeds many years ago, as well as many others, and many other people recently. They were wild harvested. I'm proud of allowing this kind of propagation to occur. Maybe the amount of seeds I collected constitute the total amount of seeds that one or two trees would produce out of many thousands. (btw, they are viable for many decades, if not a hundred years, so I am told) Also, there are very, very few, small Acacias coming up at the moment. They seem to need a fire to really get germinated. In this case I feel that intelligent propagation can only be of benefit to extending the seed bank of this most valuable tree.

I've just picked some leaves for a couple smoke blends I have been working on. The Indian smoke blend consists of: Ashwaganda leaves Chili Leaves Gotu Kola flowers Argyria nervosa leaves Indian Basil leaves and flowers This actually turns out to be something of a trip, there is a lot going on in here. The LSA from the Argyria is definitely noticeable even in the leaves, but I think the real powerhouse in this blend is actually the inconspicuous Basil. It has a crap load of eugenol in it and is definitely a plant that I am going to be growing in mass next year after I get some seeds (it happens to be the best tasting basil I have found as well, with it's peppery flavor). The newest addition is the Chili leaves and I'm excited to see what happens, as a quid made out of the leaves that I'm using is just quite amazing, almost cannibinoid like and doesn't activate your heat sensors, so there is no burn. The South American blend is a bit less complicated and more just pleasant: Lemon Verbena leaves Caapi leaves Rustica leaves Stevia leaves This makes for a great tasting tobacco blend that I definitely feel the essential oils in the Lemon Verbena adds so much to. Again the most recent addition to this is the Stevia and I'm hoping it give it a pleasant sweet taste with the lemon. I love my plants, they are so good to me.

Nor can discrimination. You presented the figures, and implied that it must be due to discrimination because they are starting salaries. I used those examples to show that different choices can still account for different starting salaries. I wasn't specifically making any claims that I thought the data you provided could be used to test. I was just showing that you can't use a process of elimination to conclude there is discrimination if you don't know what the variables are. Nope. I would be saying it's evidence of a general gender wage gap. There is very little in those figures that can be used to actually conclude a cause of the gender wage gap, so it's not evidence in support of either position, though I do believe it is slightly more consistent with my position than yours. Yet it's being presented in the media as though it is evidence of discrimination: http://www.theage.com.au/national/gender-pay-gap-widens-for-graduates-20130103-2c718.html http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/gender-pay-gap-widening-as-female-graduate-salaries-stall-222644291.html http://www.smh.com.au/national/tertiary-education/gender-pay-gap-doubles-in-a-year-20130103-2c78q.html http://www.watoday.com.au/business/young-women-pay-dearly-for-gender-gap-20130103-2c6m9.html I didn't see anything in any of the mainstream media articles on this that even mentions any other possible factors. Where is the critical analysis of any of this? It's just indoctrination, and it's the reason so many people cling so strongly to the idea that the gender pay gap is due to discrimination. I don't know of a single study that has looked directly at discrimination on a large scale, and perhaps there's no viable way to do it. It is always inferred from an unexplained residual, and the actual results vary enormously between different studies, but there are plenty that find that this residual accounts for a very small amount. Why can't we have a little honesty in the media and from 'gender equality' organisations? You keep calling them "bad choices". I refer to them as "different choices". They are only bad choices if you want a certain outcome. If you want to learn to write poetry, then taking a poetry-writing unit as an elective is a good choice. If you want to be paid more in your future career as an engineer, then it is a bad choice. If you want to earn a lot, then working a dangerous job is a good choice. If you want to live longer, then it's a bad choice. It's not a problem for my position, because when you have a multitude of different causes that interplay, then you will see differences across occupations. It's only a problem if you assume that there is one major cause. Perhaps women who have/want children are less likely to choose a career in geology or oceanography because they would expect to have to travel more, so the women who do degrees in Earth sciences are less likely to have children than those in other fields. I doubt this is the reason, and I'm not going to bother speculating on other possible reasons, because we have no way to test any hypotheses, but when you have a multitude of combined, and interrelated, forces that influence the choices of individuals, and consequently their starting salaries, it is much easier to see how there may be such different wage gaps for graduates with different degrees, than if you put it all down to gender discrimination. You're now changing the subject again. You brought up recent university graduates because you thought that personal choices couldn't account for differences in starting salaries among recent graduates. I used the example of WAM (among others) to show that choices and personal attributes can affect starting salaries. If you want to go back to talking about the average wage gap, we can do that too. The research suggests WAM is a large contributing factor to starting salaries. This is where better studies are required. There are a lot of studies out there, but it would be hard to find this specific information that breaks down specifically Australian data, without doing the actual research ourselves. I didn't say this. I gave these as examples of ways in which recent graduates under 25 can have different starting salaries other than due to discrimination. Some of these may depend on gender. Some may not. Some may benefit men. Some may benefit women. I think there would be a huge number of differences in the choices of men and women that will affect pay generally, and starting salaries specifically. I don't pretend to know what all these factors are. But the next step after publication of these figures should be research that does look at possible causes, rather than presenting the figures in the media as though they are proof of discrimination. And again, I would like to point out that the organisation that performed the research never mentioned discrimination, but gave some other possible causes. The data was then picked out by the WGEA, and presented to the media as though there was no other possible explanation for the gap other than discrimination.

I noticed a pretty big difference from putting some mycelium infused soil in with the tube mix for Obtus seedlings, which was obtained maybe 4 inches below top-soil around the root system of an established maidenii tree. I can't say whether the benefit was from introduction of fungal or bacterial microbes, but it gave them a head start compared to previous germination attempts. Can't comment for acuminata, but I do know there is benefit to putting them in the ground ASAP. If you're considering repotting them, depending on current size, you may want to think about putting straight in the ground. Rule of thumb is if they are ready to pot up from 4 inch tubes, then they're ready for the ground, and if there is going to be beneficial bacteria or fungus anywhere then chances are better in soil. Once they grow to about 1.5m high in the ground and the weather gets warm, the growth is pretty well exponential from there. Very rapid. I've seen recently a side by side comparison of one kept in large pots and one put in the ground. The one in the ground is 4 times bigger and 2 years younger than the jumbo pot one. After a certain point it's cruel to keep natives confined to containers.

One more point. Note that these data are divided into industry of education, not industry of employment. This means that if two people complete a degree in engineering, but one chooses to work as an engineer, and the other chooses to do data entry for a small company, not necessarily an engineering company, or heck, one might choose to work at Mcdonalds or Safeway, then they will still both be classed as engineering graduates, but their earnings will be significantly different. If you fail to see how this can be influenced by the personal choices of the individuals, then I'm not sure what more I can do to help you understand.

Often wondered if clover species mycorrhizal innoculants could be put to use. Never had the time to play with them, but there may be a good association amongst the variants used for different clovers.

Ok this isn't nitrogen fixing bacteria, but it was worth a shot. My phlebs were stuck, hadn't put on any new ax nodes in a while. Tops were slowly growing, but for the season growth was sparse and slow I watered in 5g/L TrichoShield a couple of days ago and they put on new growth at many ax nodes within a couple of days NTS -Trichoderma products and sourcing Microbe Culturing I have no idea if this is a coincidence or not, there was no control plant in the experiment. I was hoping the plants didn't respond negatively, and they came up good NTS look like they have some cool products and their range is growing fast- their customer service is also excellent as I had some hard-ass biology questions about their products we spent an hour on and they were really helpful

Ive been using Osmocote native potting mix for my acacias and ive noticed there is quite alot of thin white streaky mycelium inside the bag, Fingers crossed osmocote has done its reasearch on symbiotic fungi and its not just something random growing inside the bag.

HI guys...my first post... Im not all that experienced with the trees you're growing (I wish, Ive focussed on growing food for the last 12 months) but I recently read a book called "Teaming With Microbes", and in that book they say that Bacteria is required to supply Nitrogen to veges & flowers etc, but for trees that are hopefully going to grow for a long time, Fungi is needed to supply the roots with Nitrogen. They dont get so much Nitrogen from Bacteria, if any. In the 50's some guys tried to grow Pine trees in Cuba that had come from Colorado (I think)...the trees were ok for about 3 years, then they died. After lots of messing about... they went to Colorado to check the soil and discovered the Fungi, went back to the drawing board, and bingo...! There's a company here in Oz called "NTS" that produces all kinds of great organic products, mainly for big Ag stuff...but they have the goods to create either a Bacteria based "Tea", or a Fungal based "Tea". They sell in huge quantities, but also have small if you ask. There's also a product called "Great White" that contains all the Mycorrhizae you'll need, I believe. Either sprinkle it into the pot prior to potting or transplanting, or soak the seeds in a weak solution prior to germination. I have some new trees in the back yard that did zero for 2 years...then I got onto all this Fungus stuff, and amazingly...doubled the leaf size in no time, and shot NEW growth from under the plants that are taller than the trees! Hope this helps...

cheers I hear you slice. indeed I got a cuzco with reddish/orange spines . I also got one with immense spination. Those of yours could be a hybrid, or maybe this is a normal variation. These are nice plants. Are you positive these are clean cuzcos, end of discussion? I bought a batch of pasacanas, they too show a variation in spine colour there are blonds, there are the orange/brownish and some a bit faded brown. I am not sure T.glaucus is particularly valid as a name, other than a phenotype. But it does have characteristically round areoles and is quite blue

Glomus intraradices Glomus mosseae are both probably everywhere and very host non-specific. There are only 220 species of Glomus, and they are known to be very non-species specific, unlike some of the rhizobacteria which do have specificity to plant host. I really wouldnt be worried about trying to get specific mycorrhizal fungi, any old dirt will do, but i would with your bacteria, i.e. dirt from around other acacias would be a big help. remember too that it may take a little while for enough off a rhizosphere to develop around the plant roots, so repeat inoculations may be necessary. Cheers, Ob.