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  1. 8 points
    Something that seems to be commonly missed is these vaccines did not somehow magically appear within a few months as is commonly presented and believed. We were really fortunate that quite a few years of work on creating a vaccine for SARS and MERS (other corona viruses) had already been done and those are what allowed this to come to fruition so quickly. If it had not been for that we would almost certainly be looking at something that would still be a decade or more off in the future. Both China and the US had been working with corona viruses for a long time with this in mind. Not just the lab in Wuhan but at Ft. Dietrich. People should do what they feel comfortable with and not do anything they are not comfortable with but it is worth adding that a good bit of the antivaxxer claims I have heard are not on solid footing. Objections are good to raise but they should be based on facts rather than fear and innuendo. I have no argument with the wisdom of distrusting our leadership in general of course. That said, I sure do know a lot of vaccinated people and know no one who had problems from them beyond what we were told to expect. I had two rounds of Moderna myself. At least here in the USA, this set of vaccines CAN'T be approved until after a requisite study (which lasts two years) is completed for each of them but due to the emergency authorization many millions of people have already had them and have been for a few months now so we are not looking at something about which nothing is known. An estimated 3.1 billion doses have been given worldwide so this has actually moved a bit past being at the "experimental" level. 329 million doses have been given in the USA compared to something more like 6 or 7 million in Oz. The FDA would have already approved this in the USA due to that but they can't do so legally until the above testing is completed. It is however already clear, based on the results coming in after those millions of doses, that it will be approved just as soon as the regulations permit it. Censorship is wrong but the propagating of misinformation is in fact a real problem that needs to be addressed so finding some sort of balance is needed that permits debate and discussion yet identifies misinformation for being what it is (whether the bad information is painting a happy spin or dire warnings). When dangerous misinformation is propagated in a way that harms other people. If there is no regard for fact checking and disproven claims continue to be promoted, censorship sadly can become necessary. COVID is actually something that can and should be controlled. I am just old enough to remember the end of polio and still know people who were not fortunate enough to have been included in the vaccine programs in time. I don't agree with the aggressive pro-vaccine stance wanting to blast children with 22 different ones before age two but vaccines can in fact have good outcomes and this appears to be one of those instances.
  2. 3 points
    Here's one to give you nightmares...
  3. 3 points
    From last weekend's event. #1 The Shulgin's Pioneering Psychedelic Research https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhtEEogDwIc <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhtEEogDwIc> 2# Stories from the Edge: Trailblazers in Psychopharmacology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwE01BhnLUo <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwE01BhnLUo> #3 Currents in Psychedelic Research & Regulation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCmewaIShKQ&t=9s <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCmewaIShKQ&t=9s> #4 Psychedelic Psychotherapy & Social Impact https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsIo79Ge6Wo <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsIo79Ge6Wo> 5# Towards a Sane and Healthy Future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejHFG6VjWdU <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejHFG6VjWdU>
  4. 3 points
    I got my 2nd Pfizer dose on Saturday which took a deal of stuffing around, an hour on the phone and 3 hrs travel x2 trips. The only thing advising some 20,000 locals is a flashing roadworks sign with a phone number for the screening/ booking service. To get tested i also need to drive 3hrs, am i expected to do this for every sniffle? Scummo hasn't really managed to embrace the reality of this from the get go (ie attitude to lockdowns, the budget, 'it's not a race', ect). Prefering the status quo but times have changed and your healing hands dont seem to be much chop, Scott. Its clear that the Liberals are a clunky machine made up of swinging dicks and seat sniffers. Any talent that they had, left with Malcolm. If it wasn't for our premiers we wouldn't be in as favourable a position, case wise imo. With the big focus on vaccines, conspiracies and government bungling we forget that better testing and treatments should be well underway too. Ive read that Qld uni have a promising treatment. https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2020/03/researchers-set-begin-clinical-trials-potential-coronavirus-treatment Kindness H
  5. 3 points
    If you're convinced the current COVID-19 vaccination options aren't good for your health and you don't trust mainstream media or government communications as a source of information on the issue, try speaking to a health practitioner or a scientist, or try reading relevant health and science publications. If you don't trust these sources, I would ask you to look critically at the sources you do trust. People on this forum begrudge, disrespect and badger anti-vaxxers because not only is science and health expertise strongly represented amongst forum members, most likely view anti-vaxxers as a threat to the health of themselves, their friends and family, and the human population. This is less like drug use, which poses a risk primarily to your own health, and more like driving a car, which poses a risk to the health of others, too.
  6. 2 points
    Is herd immunity possible? seems like an important question to answer.... Five reasons why COVID herd immunity is probably impossible https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00728-2
  7. 2 points
    good discussion here, thx 4 all the input. i would have loved to grow this plant, but is not to be, i can't work out why... so let me side track, i love incarnata, because it's said to be a mild moi, and many sleep aids (mostly in europ) feature, incarnata. but instead of going wild, like i hoped, like a passion fruit, you grow in "oz", she acted tricky. i believe passsion flowers have great potential, and are not fully understood yet, by the human animal. for examle, let me say, as follows, when i was still, hooked on nico smokes, eating passion fruits, would stopp, my craving for baccy, for a while!
  8. 2 points
    Adriana Seserko - The Emerald City
  9. 2 points
    When I'm tripping is the only time my tinnitus ever stop. Even with alkaloids that induce tinnitus like sounds on the come up it settles to silence once I'm in the swing of it. It's actually quite a relief, then a disappointment when it comes back. A few times I have thought it was cured, but no.
  10. 2 points
    Censor you? On the contrary. So much dumb shit in this post I think its worth preserving. But that's just my opinion. My honest opinion of course - so it must be true.
  11. 2 points
    Are you in ill health, such that you have a lot to fear ? Or unable to isolate ?
  12. 2 points
    I can't wait to get a jab. Any of them. Personally I consider myself a logical person and read everything I can in the subject at hand. I compare the hazard x likelihood of occurrence of taking the vaccine vs the same in remaining unvaccinated. It really is a no-brainer. I'm not pro-big-pharma. I don't like their immunity to consequences. I don't think they act in the best interest of public health. I do believe their motivations are purely monetary. I do think these vaccines were rushed and I do think there's propaganda on pro-vaccine as well as anti-vac sides of the argument. But the maths still checks out and that's the bottom line.
  13. 2 points
    Vaccination is one strategy for dealing with viral outbreaks. It is by no means the only strategy, just the ready-to-hand "no-brainer" that promises to revive a moribund global economy. I see vaccination as primarily an economic, rather than a public-health intervention. Greg Hunt and ScoMo used it as a political smokescreen from Day One. We all have a right (if not a duty) to be skeptical. Health practitioners and scientists cannot speak to the ethics of western biomedical research and development. They are too enmeshed in their own disciplines, and seldom formally instructed in more holistic approaches. Contemporary virology and immunology are both predicated on human and animal suffering. I left clues to this in a previous post. But despite the "safety" and "efficacy" of the various vaccines, I am yet to hear the slightest detail of their respective bioethical credentials. We could learn a lot from Covid-19, but instead we see it as entirely Other, an enemy to be defeated at any cost -- and that's a glaring defect of western culture more broadly. For me it's a matter of ethical and political choice. A pox on anyone who discounts these fundamental freedoms "in the name of" X, Y or Z. But I would certainly not deny the right of others to participate, if that's their preference. Neither would I criticise (let alone condemn) such an eminently personal decision. We still have much to learn from Covid-19: about sustainable politics, economics, and bioethics, for starters.
  14. 2 points
    Personally, I’m really disappointed by how many people are getting their information from the opinions of self-proclaimed scientific experts that are just repeating things they have read without holding relevant qualifications within the field required to understanding this sort of information. It truly baffles me that the general public’s debate, is focused around scientific believers versus anti-vaxers, as if all scientist have drawn the same conclusions and are in complete agreement with each other. It is incredibly disheartening that rather than supporting Australia researchers with novel ideas to develop covid treatments, we have signed up to international pharmaceutical corporations promises of a safe and effective vaccine well before research has demonstrated it to be just that. Meanwhile effective treatment methods aren’t even on the general public’s radar. At this point in time most people seem confused about what mRNA is, so how can they be expected to understand what miRNA’s and siRNA’s is and why using them as a treatment is potentially vastly superior to the development of an effective vaccine. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-17/queensland-coronavirus-antiviral-treatment-covid-19/100144370 https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgene.2019.00478/full https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40265-021-01474-5 It would be interesting to investigate the role influenza vaccines have played upon the evolutionary pathways of the influenza virus, and it seems pertinent to have a full understanding of this before we jump into large scale deployment of covid vaccines which may very well end up having similar consequences, if it is demonstrated that vaccinations programs have influenced influenzas evolutionary drift.
  15. 2 points
    Congratulations. However, not everyone does, so perhaps consider this before making misguided attacks on the mentality of the "herd". You are not more enlightened, nor superior, to those you judge around you. Because it's a question of public health. No one begrudges whether you choose to decline a rabies shot, because the risk of contracting it in Australia is nonexistent, if excluding the lyssavirus carried by bats. But COVID-19 is not rabies, and there is a clear risk associated with catching the disease, and that disease would clearly spread very rapidly in this country with adequate measures in place. The thing about vaccinations where the aim is herd immunity, is that what you want for yourself isn't necessarily the most important consideration. There are immune-compromised individuals out there for whom vaccination isn't an option, but in all likelihood, don't wish to contract COVID-19. The best way they can gain protection is via society achieving herd immunity. That is challenging in a society filled with scientifically illiterate individuals who consume a diet of Sky News / YouTube conspiracy theorists / Alex Jones / Reddit / other sources of bullshit, and who rank their own petty and misguided concerns as the pinnacle of all things that need to be considered.
  16. 2 points
    You appear to be the only one here with a somewhat sane perspective on this matter. I can believe this many Australians are rushing to be guinea pgs to protect themselves from a disease that is almost absent in the country. Or for buying into all that official propaganda. Just shows what happens when you spook the herd.
  17. 2 points
    I'm enjoying watching the whole MMA binfire. Immensely. It gives my shrivelled heart some faith in human nature. Whoda thunk? There are so many qualified, experienced people and orgs contributing freely to the scene over decades, SAB, EGA, Mycommunity, PRISM etc who have done some really good science on a shoestring or less- and yet those runs on the board were ignored in favour for MMS setting themselves up as an opposition
  18. 2 points
    Sadly there is the actual cost to running events and supporting the work of the community, and COVID has only made this harder when it comes to in-person events. I feel that is something that needs to be said. However, it seems clear that access is not a key part of the MMA pricing structure ect Not everyone can afford to go to conferences like EGA. I feel bad that people have to miss out as EGAs, predominantly volunteer team, genuinely try to make the tickets prices value for money and accessible. If SAB members cannot attend in person, I still hope you will consider attending via an online ticket with a copy of the legendry EGA Journal packed into the price. As you all know, EGA also tries to publish most of its content free via Entheo TV. So that, in time, the content should hit the community space for all to view, but that should be more a reason to support the project as your helping others less fortunate to ourselves to access the content. There are also other avenues such as getting involved in running it. As for the MMA ticket pricing, hell, you can still get some in-person EGA conference tickets for less than it cost to attend just the final release ticket to the MMA Gala Dinner (so not even getting access to the conference). Anyway, it would be best to leave further comments to others on the matter as I probably have a firm opinion around all these matters after almost 20 years of, well… enjoyable community service, one might say
  19. 2 points
    You make it sound like any old vaccine could be used with no regard to safety at all but that's not quite the reality: https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained We are very lucky in Australia, but if you've seen what's happening in places like India, then the word "emergency" seems wholly appropriate. I have (had ) a very good friend that has now disappeared almost completely down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories and anti-vax. The hypocrisy is that this friend never hesitates in putting large quantities of street 'cocaine' and 'mdma' into his system, yet is highly suspicious and damning of the vaccines and modern medicine in general. It's very sad.
  20. 2 points
    One thing that changed the game re AZ is that last week researchers found a drug that cures the clotting disorder if treated early enough. So the important thing now is to monitor for symptoms post vax and to seek competent medical attention immediately if clotting seems likely. It's highly preliminary and there is no data on whether it will cure everyone, but point is that it's not the dead end it was last month. I am also on 3 life saving meds that have a higher death rate than AZ and I didn't think twice about using them so it would be silly if i suddenly applied a different standard to the vax.
  21. 2 points
    If I could get the Pfizer vaccine tomorrow I would. The AZ vaccine concerns me with the clotting issue and it's old technology. On the plus side, at least we're getting reporting of the issues and it isn't all being swept under the carpet. I guess I can hang out until later this year - I feel I've come this far. 'Big pharma' is a little like taxes I guess - a somewhat necessary evil. But I think it's important to realise that it isn't some kind of all-devouring beast but is made up of scientists, researchers and health professionals that i'm certain are not simply 'in it for the money'.
  22. 2 points
    Big Pharma is laughing all the way to the bank.
  23. 2 points
    Topic is fine as long as it doesn't spread misinformation. If anyone's advice diverges from the official line then they must reference this properly (no, youtube videos are not references). Pfizer is running out and unless you're in 1a or 1b you won't be getting it until the new batch arrives late in the year. if you are 1a/b then you would need to go to a vaccination hub to get Pfizer, as they don't do that one in clinics. If you're not high risk and are worried about the AZ then you can just wait. If you're in a location and situation where social distancing is easy then doing that for another 6 months is easy. You need to talk to your GP (or better specialist) about your clots. Most clotting disorders are not caused by the same mechanism as AZ so whether your get them or not is likely irrelevant. Are you on heparin or have you ever had heparin? If so (and you didn't get a clotting event from the heparin) then you also won't get it from AZ. The clotting mechanism is the same. Yes, you'd expect about 50-100 deaths from AZ if every single aussie gets AZ. That's less than even a small localised covid outbreak. But not everyone will get vaccinated, nor will all get AZ, so the number is dramatically smaller. Getting on a plane to europe has a far greater clotting risk than AZ and most people don't give that a second thought.
  24. 1 point
    Yes, clean water and food... https://www.eatinganimalscausespandemics.com
  25. 1 point
    Hi Vual Lots of good feedback above, studying anthropology a good start. Thinking of ethnobotanical plants, Some free Australian content can be found here - https://www.youtube.com/entheotv/ Worth its also thinking about Australian ethnobotanical confrance - www.gardenstates.org
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