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Reckless datura consumption by youth has been going on for a long time....and will no doubt continue to go on. And I am sorry to say it but even when educated... Shit, eat a daffodil bulb and you will know all about poisonous plants. If you look into it there are a lot of poisonous plants common to the garden..... Not everyone is aware of poisonous plants (or fungi ) and so many hospital admissions of children occur every year.

I have been approached by a seed supplier offering me mixed loph seeds to sell at my site seedsaustralia.net to test the viability of the seeds he has sent me some sample seeds. rather than test them myself ( and also test how good or bad my methods are ) I have an offer for you. if you would like 50 free mixed loph seeds from this potential new supplier I have them listed on my website in the 'specials' section as Mixed Lophophora seeds *review* they are listed at $15 for 50 but when checking out if you use the coupon code SAB they will be free. there is a catch however. *you have to log into my site and create an account ( delete it straight after if you like) *you have to grow the seeds soonish ( next couple of weeks) *you have to put your corroboree username in the comments section of the order ( so I know who you are) *you have to provide me with feedback on your sowing techniques and germination rates either here or via PM after a couple of weeks after sowing. *it may take me a few days to mail everything out depending on demand. *you will have to pay the $2 postage. *one pack of seeds per customer. I think I have set everything up on my site ready for this to happen. let me know if you have any problems with this and please feel free to buy other seeds while your there ;) please don't pay for Mixed Lophophora seeds *review* cheers WT

Just a heads up for anyone trading Datura or Brugmansia seeds /cuttings in the seed/plant exchange and sending to Tasmania. I stupidly sent some seeds away last week before checking local quarantine laws. Big mistake. The person i sent them to never got them so i checked the DPI website and found this in relation to Datura- 4. Importation of declared weed: (1) A person must not import or allow to be imported into Tasmania any datura. It is an offence against section 57(1) of the Act to fail to comply with this prohibition. A person found committing that offence may incur an infringement fine of 4 penalty units. A person convicted in court of that offence may be liable to a fine not exceeding 50 penalty units. The Secretary may exempt a person from this prohibition under section 60 of the Act. Actions to assist compliance in this matter could include but are not limited to the following: Persons travelling to Tasmania, in particular from areas infested with datura, such as many parts of mainland Australia, should conduct thorough searches for the presence of the plant and apply appropriate hygiene measures, such as clothing, vehicle, machinery and baggage inspection and cleaning. Questions or concerns about weed hygiene issues should be directed to Quarantine Tasmania personnel before or directly upon disembarkation in Tasmania. Persons importing ornamental plants to Tasmania should ensure their stock does not include datura. Persons importing items to Tasmania that may contain datura (e.g. bird seed) should have these checked for the presence of the plant. This can be arranged through Quarantine Tasmania. It was a foolish mistake on my behalf so i just wanted to bring it up so no one makes the same error i did. This is more for the newer members as im sure most of the more experienced traders and growers already now about these laws.

Gymnocalycium guerkeanum Also planted out some of hybrid crosses fingers crossed I get some germination. G netrelianum x G baldianum G paraguayense-fleischerianum x G baldianum G ragonesei x G stenogonum I figure I will see how germination goes and then try and graft a few as I have ADHD lol.

wow, impressive plants I can't say much about the culture, because I have only grown some in small pots

I've just been weeding and moving them into the sun (I will take a ginormous photo session soon). There's a lot of repotting to be done, but it's just too difficult with infected cuts on my hands. There has to be a better way to weed than getting stabbed once every few plants. I'm extremely seriously considering making some plate-mail gloves.

For a progress report on Sacred Cacti, it appears that it is finally being prepared to go to print. I hope to have more detailed info on a time frame for that soon. As a teaser here is the working version of the new front cover.

nice work dude, congrats ;)

I got home last night and went and checked on my babies and look what I found. Hey 2Deep Cheers Got

my chariot of choice is a datsun 1200

All 30 x crossed trich seeds have germinated. Heres the pc x validus and validus x pc next to it. All zellys seeds are A1 . Almost 100% germination rate

i guess what im saying is there hadn't been much scheduling for these and im not aloud to grow pot plants or poppy plants, Salvia for ornamental purposes in my back yard id grow a sanguinea for deep personal ornamental issues but not while i have dogs in the back yard and kids ready to rip it in the neighborhood if i put it in the front yard and even though they stole my tree id still feel sorry for em and i sure aint fuck having one in the house and kids would probably spot it miles away in the backyard with brugmansias anyway probably end up with one over the fence and rippin my garden. hence i knew daffodils where poisonous never thought of eating one i guess it was the ppl telling me it was poisonous a few times as a kid sat in the head instead of ppl saying yeh its a full on hallucinogen that creates realistic visions its a what u do is put etc amounts of flowers in and cook a tea or eat a couple pods if u can find them then 1 in 4 of them saying its poisonous if we where to respect it like the old native american tribes that treated it like a sorcerer then there might be a good future for datura but the way how mankind is going i dont see that happening mushys i never had a problem with picking because ive allways treated them with caution and identified them being scared of the infamous death caps, you see in the paper some dude hospitalized over picking a bad mushroom but u dont see 2 admited to icu 1 comatised nearly dieing from a heart attack and both nearly had their throats closed over.. sure u have ones like scolopalamine being the theifs drug but they dont refer to datura and i go in to doctors pretty much all the time when i need to mention im still gettin residual effects from datura overdose they basicly got no idea until i start slinging words like hyoscine atropine that they may tick on to it i could go on about this for ages but im not saying ban plants certain plants by all means grow em but why have such great usefull plants scheduled to the shit house and have deliriants legal like datura and alcohol and i certainly aint touching those travel calm pills for travel sickness in a billion years and then i been on sites that said stuff like mandrake is the bomb and dont worry bout how much u smoke cuz u cant overdose and its legal as i said i can go on for ages but im just gonna stop here before this little conflict gos on for ages and im not saying put a 'ban' on anything i was just saying im surprised its not allready and i just like using brug as a good example because they stick out like dog balls

i went off a old hippys dosing i was silly enough to beleive him but went through a few other reports that they must have got a fairly inactive plants for dosing see my thing is i have to try everything i dont seem to say no on first times like to explore different substances some ppl i knew sounded legit but a bit far out on getting their info actualy correct so i smashed down 1 tea one weekend done nothing same tea next weekend nearly killed me i reckon if i had all the knowledge i had now on the plant i wouldn't have taken it and now i hit everything with a fine tooth come and make sure im aware of the dangers in the drug/substance im gonna take but i had read reports talked to mates and done all i knew to keep my self safe and it seemed to work till Datura shat on it now i go through the forums and try to find all the info i can but theres still that scare there am i gonna fuck the dosing again or somethin i beleive all plants/walks of life should be given a fair go but everyone should know their facts about them and know their facts are straight. so im not saying anything should be illegal this and that just ppl really need to know about these things even if a poisonous plant list is pumped into kids heads when they get into high school

Well thats good that they got their seeds, on th etopic of Datura is it all species on the weed list? What about metel var. fastuosa I thought they may have slipped by being very ornamental but I guess if all Datura are on the list. If it quacks like a duck lol.

Just had a Pm from the member i sent the seeds to. There has been some miscommunication. They did receive the seeds after all.

Through personal experience with tas quarantine, they will not only send you a letter, but if they can they will telephone you for a chat and confirm you are now aware of the necessary documents you need to read and the appropriate documentation required for any import. But you are given the choice regarding the fate of the item they have confiscated, either to have the item treated, returned or destroyed. As a first time you get a warning, after that its a big fine. If there is a return address they will also contact the sender and potentially fine them as well. Datura, is a declared weed in most states, therefore in whichever states it has been declared (probably all states i suspect) you can potentially be fined for it. Before trading with anyone its a good idea to know where you are sending your item too, and potentially protecting your trader and yourself from greif with a quick google search of the respective states quarantine regulations and weeds lists. I think as far as the letter of the law is concerned, brugmansia is not an issue, as it is only datura that has declared weed status. Brugmansia being a different genus does not far under the umbrella. I suspect in this case the letter has been lost, mail softing machines are known to rip the crap out of letters, or pocketed by a dodgy postal workers - that happens a lot in tasmania is seems (through personal experience). If tas quarantine had picked up the letter, a notice would have arrived from them, or phonecall. I think in most cases seeds are not the issue, what is is live plants, but in particular its dirt- it wasnt the plant material i got pulled up on, it was that the sender hadnt removed the dirt and it was falling out the edges of the box in large clumps. If you do happen to send a cutting, clean the roots thoroughly. Cheers, Obtuse.

I hate environmental weeds but it drives me nuts when it conflicts with what I want to grow, especially when I know I am particularly careful about what I do grow. Datura, IMHO, isn't that bad as an environmental weed but it can be a problem in fodder or animal paddocks where it can cause injury to animals (or impact profit being the biggest concern). I have thought about trying to import a few funky things from the US but stopped short when they aren't on AQIS approved list - don't want to cross them, but frequently I think these things are on the list because they are of particular interest to pharmaceutical corporations - Ginseng is one off the top of my head.

I can tell you IF they were confiscated the receiver would have received a lovely green proforma slip from Tasmanian Quarantine... It is highly unlikely they would be confiscated, unless the letter looks like a dogs breakfast. EDIT - you will also note it is the "importer" that will get the arse kicking if it deemed warranted under the Weed Management Act.....

Yeah i had them labelled. Didn't think i had anything to hide. Really should have done my homework before sending. Im a bit cheesed off with myself right now.

Did you have them labeled? Wonder how unlabeded seeds would of faired..

Here's a recent pic of my seedlings of the TPM x SS02 cross - kept 10 for myself, only 5 germinated, 1 perished early on - so, 4 survivors, but all are freaks I am happy to see I have noticed that the really gnarly crested variation seems to like less sun - it turns reddish more easily - now is shooting up a little green column type thing though - moving itselt to higher groumnd maybe?