holymountain Posted August 17, 2009 finally after years of keeping my eyes peeled on drives across the country i stumbled across a huge san pedro growing a few doors up from my parents house in country nsw. i looked everywhere and somehow never noticed this....lucky i found it now and not when i was in high school...might never have finished. i spoke with the owners and they said i was welcome to take as much as i wanted. see all you have to do is ask!! will hopefully get some cuttings in the near future and be able to pass some around these parts... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paradox Posted August 17, 2009 a lovely specimen indeed man well done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD. Posted August 17, 2009 That monster is in need of some serious pruning, beautiful find HM :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.dg Posted August 18, 2009 looks like the plant called pc here in the states. ime big old growth like that is great to prop with, but has low entheo value, if you ever test it will you confirm ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strangebrew Posted August 18, 2009 Do them a favor and cut the stuff at the window. I wonder if spines scratch glass? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lampy Posted August 18, 2009 That is going to be one scary task cutting down one of the larger columns. I can only imagine how much one might weigh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watertrade Posted August 18, 2009 That monster is in need of some serious pruning, beautiful find HM :D I know just the man for the job.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyAmine. Posted August 18, 2009 Choice.. good find mate, seems as though it finally wanted to show its self to you. Depending on where you are located I may be interested in some cuts if the price is right. And from what I understand old growth is where some of the real magic tends to sleep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
incognito Posted August 18, 2009 ime big old growth like that is great to prop with, but has low entheo value, if you ever test it will you confirm ?? i would strongtly disagree. older the material the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFriendlyPlanter Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) Looks like the cacti is leaning away from where a large shrub used to be which may be the reason you never noticed it before. The cacti is kinda unstable bent like that and really needs a major prune at about 1/3 of the way up. The new shoots would grow straight up vertical and look much nicer & stronger etc. Now you just gotta convince the owner that it needs such a severe pruning. Tell him the whole thing could topple and break his house. Just a note, I've found from personal experience that it isn't such a good idea to lay cacti logs on top of each other (eg in the back of the ute or posted in the mail ((even for short-spined pedros)) as the spines cause a lot of damage to the other logs around them. I had about 15 nice logs go black & half rotten from the multitude of scratches and punctures they received after going through the post this way. A good idea might be to place a layer of cardboard in between each layer of logs for protection when you pick them up. Being well prepared and putting the extra effort in is soooo 'worth it' when it comes to cacti. Don't learn the hard way like I did lol. Edited August 18, 2009 by San Petrovinski Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.dg Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) ime big old growth like that is great to prop with, but has low entheo value, if you ever test it will you confirm ?? i would strongtly disagree. older the material the better. perhaps, but badly neglected/ under fed cacti you rescue from yards? Edited August 18, 2009 by PD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
incognito Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) perhaps, but badly neglected/ under fed cacti you rescue from yards? even moreso. Neglect and underfeeding could (in my own theory anyway), bolster the alkaloid production. The more a plant is fighting for survival the more protective alks it will produce. (again my own theory.) Edited August 18, 2009 by PD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pacha Posted August 18, 2009 From experiments I have made I have to agree that the older the branch is the more alkaloids it will contain but I disagree with the claim that stress and neglect will bolster alkaloid %. I have tested branches that had bruises, marks and sunburns they were not even close to being potent as healthy branches from the same mother plant. In my opinion which I base on experience it is all but a myth that a neglected plant will be more potent, and I would never recommend treating them bad, quite the contrary - these plants are great guides and teachers and should be treated as a living organism that wants nothing but to survive. It is believed that if you give them good conditions and feed them well(not over water) they will show much more growth, healthy and strong they will become very potent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) Edited August 19, 2009 by mac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.dg Posted August 18, 2009 perhaps, but badly neglected/ under fed cacti you rescue from yards?even moreso. in my experience the older growth has been more potent. Neglect and underfeeding could (in my own theory anyway), bolster the alkaloid production. The more a plant is fighting for survival the more protective alks it will produce. (again my own theory.) im my garden plants fed high n levels were approx 40% stronger, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.dg Posted August 18, 2009 It is believed that if you give them good conditions and feed them well(not over water) they will show much more growth, healthy and strong they will become very potent. i agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD. Posted August 19, 2009 PPL, can you please refrain from discussing potency and PLEASE, no talk of extractions, there is just no need for it!!! A good idea might be to place a layer of cardboard in between each layer of logs for protection when you pick them up. Indeed SP. Cardboard or some thick old carpet is ideal, that said, ive never had a problem with large amounts of pedro, psycho0 is another thing tho!. You should be able to fit 100-150ft in a medium sized sedan no worries HM (back seat and boot) but by the looks of that pedro there could be up to 200-250ft there to get depending on how feral they let ya go with the pruning hehe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MORG Posted August 19, 2009 Wow man! Nice find! It defintiely pays to keep your eyes peeled in country towns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smiling Cloud Posted August 19, 2009 After reading this thread it reminded me of these cacti growing where i grew up. Anyone live near tamworth? Or better yet barraba? I don;t know exactly what it is but it would be worth checking out if anyone lives near there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holymountain Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) ha...yeah my parents live in country nsw it's the only pedro i've noticed though in the whole area. then again, i'd never noticed this one and i'd been looking for the last two or three years. a hell of a lot of cereus around though...there'd have to be a few pedro or two floating about amongst them though. Edited February 23, 2011 by holymountain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ethnodude Posted August 19, 2009 karma to you holymountain. share the love bro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~shameless~ Posted August 19, 2009 Yeah nice one!! " start chopp'n" As a tree lopper i couldnt help thinking, just becareful with ladders man, LOL!! you might need one ( i recomend hiring a real goodie ) and always have someone holding it in place for you, look out for overhead wires or anything 'live'. Happy lopping man! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genki Posted August 20, 2009 thats an impressive find! must be amazing to see in flower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poo Posted August 20, 2009 Right... so that's just a touch bigger than I had pictured when you mentioned it... You could build a log cabin out of that thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
