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bathroom plant seems like the ideal candidate! coleus probably isnt that useful, but is pretty. it can do some shade but doubt its long term chances in a bathroom. coffee is also a common houseplant. some vines might do well for a bit as they tend to come from forest floors and stretch up to light. so they will grow all stretched out for a while indoors quite nice probably.

looks great man, jealous! out of curiosity are in a dry climate? or do they set seed in dry season? they flower here but never seen a pod once.

the peruvian black type growing here is flowering profusely. There are other types growing there as well, but they are not currently flowering. will they set seed on their own? do they require a specific polinator?

phyllodes barely jsut like young stems. nto only weak, they ar so filled with oils its next to useless. distribution should for sure play into ethical, so if its native it becomes a greater thing. though where AC is native, the concern isnt killing it so much as its very common and planted by the government, but it stops soil erosion. so teh real issue with harvesting it is landslides, not killing trees. in OZ, Hawaii etc its a pest, and could justifiably be killed without thought and they do. in these cases, perhaps the most important issue is land management, as one needs to protect the ecosystem. so how you kill them, remove them, in what densitiy and how you are planting after/during is the main thing. making a slope bald to get rid of an invasive tends not to work out well for the mountain.

Anyone know much about this and how it may be used in which cases etc? is it really just a precursor for the M word, or is there something in there that could be used raw?

can you elaborate on your pollination method? i got a few to work a few years back but i wasnt diligent with the demasculation and so i dont have faith the maternal williamsii seeds are true hybrids. i got 5 seeds a single time from a william pollen donor onto fricii, which i have slightly more faith in being a real cross due to fricii being self sterile, but i also didnt demascualte the flowers for some reason so cant be sure. no plants left so kind of useless, but interested in the method you used looking good!

never had a flowering trich, so no expereice. but i would sugest what we do in dragon fruit farms, which have similar flowers in that they are massive, night blooming and self sterile usually. but they are not incompatable so much as the pollen realease and calyx receptivity are at different times. i forgot the term for this but its well studied in this crop. so that said hand pollinatoin is done on commercial farms. we use dusting things, forgot the name. those hand heald feather looking things people use to dust book cases etc. use that and twirl it around the flower, go to the next. with trcihs i would do it once open, then a couple more times throughout the night to make sure. if its as simple as pollen/calyx timing issues, this will take care of that problem easily. and if not, then i guess we know for sure they aint self abled.

psychotria and salvia come to mind. IMO anything that is a root, flower or fruit/seed is not very likely a good choice to grow inside due to space/light issues. leaf harvests that tolerate shade seem the best option. cactus can work if you have a bright enough spot.

in the specific case of the species you mention, the explanation by "Crop" would also not be realsitic because Acacia "C" is a very vulerable speceis to both fungal and bug attack. especially from rieshi mushroom, Ganoderma multipileum. so harvesting some of the root and lettin git grow is not a viable option as you are just killing the tree. the more sustainable way is to use trunk bark which is equal in strength and has much much more mass. there is an article written about this issue ;) also in the native habitat where it grows the ethical aspect can be dealt with easily based on the country's insane weather. typhoons blow them down all the time. road crews knock em down too when they do road work or power line work, there is a lot of material for those willing to do the work, which many are not as its really tiring. in Hawaii they get money from teh governemnt to kill the trees and harvest that way, so it doesnt seem unethical at all for this species as both sources are done so almost totally "ethically". the few people goign around stripping bark of parts fo the tree and doing it to many trees are unwillingly killing eachone they do that too and thus is pretty unethical albeit probably out of ignorance. take the whole tree and once and have a stash for a while. generally speaking many root species of trees from moist areas i would not consider sustainable as they more often than not kill the tree. annual plants, weeds, dry climates etc may be a different case.

Very interesting stuff, though ethical harvesting and population reintrouctions and conservation are perhaps not he same thing in that the direction of DNA and end use is quite different. Harvested plants essentially end up as fecal compost, whereas cultivated plants for reintorduction end up in the wild and introduce possibly new things to such regions. both have ethical and moral aspects, but i feel far far more important to protect the export fo dna into the wild compared to the import for consumption.

they branch a lot, from nodes. though i notice once vines are larger and the base gets woody they prefer to branch from higher points that are green and more liekly to be in a bright spot (canopy). They will branch form the base and even the roots if need be, i wouldnt worry too much about them. i would focuse on keeping the base/roots safe as the upper parts are quite capable of holding their own. i would presonally not poke a hole in the greenhouse but train it through the base of the greenhouse and let it grow up. Im not so familiar with OZ weatehr, but if it doesnt freeze i cant see any problems. they grow it in Florida which gets cold snaps i hear, so maybe similar? i have had shit luck training it to. it grows up very well, not sideways so what i did at a previous farm was grow it up bamboo poles and once they reached the top unwind them and lay them where i want and reset the poles. eventualyl i turned one plant into a ground cover about the size of a typical 20x50' greenhouse and it smothered the weeds really nice and made a wonderful mulch! but it took over a year to do.... at another farm planted a single plant, of your variety, at teh base of a ango tree (about 20 meter tall) and it has reached the top in one year, covered much of it in 2 years or so. as far as i know that plant is having a 3 ways fight for survivale between the mango, caapi and hbwr. my money is on the hbwr, but caapi is quite good at tolerating being smotherd and darker then stretching through shit into a brighter position. such is life of a lliana.

caapi is a vine and should be stretching edit to note over the last decade with my tuc plants i notice they ar enot awesome at growing outwards, but if something to climb go nuts. they never did the sideways fence things super well, but they can cover a tree in a year no problem.

probably, but then we starve. the natural world goes round because things consume other things. no way around it. so if a person makes a true effort to limit pain and suffering, avoid population catastrophes and generally respect what you are killing, thats about as ethical one can spin killing shit. Even the hardcore crazy vegan buddhists here when i question them about how plants also feel and how that is justified over an animal they can only answer: "We still need to eat". in the end we choose what we like to eat and justify ourselves to feel ok about it in the end a garden left to grow is liekly much more ethical than a caged factory farm of chickens. Farming animals that prefer crowded dark environments (ie insects) makes much more sense than caging up large animals like cows who are at home in large fields walking around. these are the ethical differences i live my life by.. we all still eat, but we can eat without negatively impacting things as much as other ways. The holier than thou peopl ewill always disagree with something, so probably just as well to ignore them when they get too preachy. They eat too.

Whenever possible i say cultivate instead of wild harvest. if not possible, never endangered stuff. always leave the land undisturbed or try and fix it if made a mess, and if youre going to harvest harvest its entirety dont harvest pieces of many plants. kill one (if you have to) and take it all, dont injur 100 and leave them open to being infected and dieig. harvesting anything be it food or medicine is mor eor less the same. we will take things to use them. dont waste, preserve nature as best as possible, and try and cultivate your own whenever one can. im personally kind of againts peyote harvest as it can be readily and easily cultivated in enough quantity to totally alleviate the strain on wild populations. Just the laws get in the way in the states for that. but they ca be imported,, so mexico and canada get on it....

good points thanks. before teh issue was they grow all year here and even flower almost all year, so it was always hard to get good growth. so a month ago took your advice, cut the shit out of it, like everything. at that time still kind of dry. now the rains have come and its flushed with new growth, the difference now is no flowers, which before always had flowers. so happy to report teh cuttings taken 4 days ago already have white root spooge on the stems, wow. sems problem solved. thanks