Yawning Man Posted February 2, 2011 Why the fuck didn't i wear earplugs? You'd think i'd learn by now ffs. I woke up this morning and i instantly knew the ringing was more noticable or more defined. Unfortunately there's no cure, only ways to manage it so it doesn't make you wanna rip your ears out. Does anyone else live with this shit. I've been on penicillin which might have contributed. I've had it for a while but at a reasonable tone/pitch, now it's a bit more annoying. Hopefully it'll just become background 'noise' and i wont notice it much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThunderIdeal Posted February 2, 2011 there is permanent tinnitus, and there is transient hearing damage which lasts up to about a week. if you've just been to a concert, expect improvements over the next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyAmine. Posted February 2, 2011 I have suffered with Tinitus pretty badly for about 20yrs, it seems to run in my family ontop of the damage I did going to parties and gigs etc. I have learned to live with it (mostly), the only time it is really bad is when its really quiet, I dont think I have heard 'silence' since I was about 14. It got a lot worse after an inner ear infection I had, now I get random deaf periods (except for the high pitched ring) in one ear that last for a few mins at a time, they start of with a really loud PIIIING then the outter noise is dropped right down and the inner ringing is all I can hear. I need to sleep with a fan or something on these days, otherwise I cant get to sleep for the ringing. Ive picked up a new tone recently when its really quiet, it fluctuates up and down like a faulty capacitor, I pulled my bedroom apart looking for the electronic device causing the noise until I relaised it was in my own head. I also suffer from high freq problems, for example a dying TV or motherboard will give me a migraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac Posted February 2, 2011 When trying to sleep I tend to get a ringing tone(only ever notice it when its quiet) I usually have a tv or music going in the background to block it out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Distracted Posted February 2, 2011 I thought it was just permanent and you eventually drowned it out? If I concentrate on it I can hear it right now... I don't mind it too often... I wrote a short poem about it whilst on K that i'm sure i've thrown away now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
migraineur Posted February 3, 2011 Get yourself a pair of these. I have had a pair for years and I bought my friends some as gifts as hearing damage is permanent. http://www.hearos.com/products/high-fidelity They are re-useable noise attenuating earplugs. You still hear the same quality of music when you go to gigs, however, it will just not be as loud. Normal earplugs will just muffle the sound so don't use them. If you live in Perth then you can get them at Kosmic Sound in Osborne Park plus it seems that you can get them from Kosmic Sound online so they should ship interstate. http://www.kosmic.com.au/Guitars/HEAROS/1889?Hearos+High+Fidelity+Ear+Plugs+ $30 and they'll totally last you for years. Alternatively, you can go to http://www.westernhearing.com.au/ and get yourself a custom pair made but the'll set you back at least $300 so it might only be worth it if you are constantly at gigs or if you're a sound engineer or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mescalito Posted February 3, 2011 Oh yeah,I get it a lot since the Benzo thing. As you say Andy mine starts the same way,I describe it as "Pencil Ear" LOL it feels/sounds like one or both ears have had a pencil jammed in them all of a sudden and then it fades slightly but stays for however long. I have to have music going during the day and that helps,though that's how I like my day anyway White to pink noise is good at night and doesn't interfere like a television or talk-back radio some peeps use. You can concentrate on it intently ironically and it will get worse,then go...well for me anyways.Kind of like exposure to the point where it is just part of everything and doesn't stick out. There could be many reasons as to why in each case,I suspect prior drug use to be predominant esp. with Serotonergics. My hearing's spot on and I worked with angle-grinders,impact-drills,mortar hammering with a chisel,Aluminium drop-saws(they scream) in the refigeration and A/Con field.Went to heaps of LOUD hard rock concerts. Never really had it until I started coming off the meds. AUM or HUUU seem to negate the sound too W.P.G. produces a Huuuu sound inside Interesting Andy,I'm similar with wave frequencies.As a kid I could tell when the next door neighbours Teev went on or off.One pitch rose while the other descended in tone. I've been known to upset TV channels and radios if I'm distressed or a tad shitty Maybe it's the distant sound of the sentient travelers' craft approaching to upset the next False Flag....and we are becoming frequency sensitive as we evolve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mesq Posted February 3, 2011 I used to be really careful with my ears. Had custom fitted musicians earplugs which cost $200 (which i have now lost). Went to a tribeadelic and forgot to take my earplugs to the dancefloor and I was tripping balls - and one filter sweep which was just way too loud and top endy fucked my right ear. It's not too bad but when its quiet its ever present. Drove me crazy at vipassna and was hard to get over. Especially when I had my hearing checked I had perfect hearing before the incident. I wear the $30 Etymotic research earplugs and they are good value but I lost them as well. Anyway look after your ears peeps... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThunderIdeal Posted February 3, 2011 why do people include that shit in their tracks, it's beyond rude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yawning Man Posted February 3, 2011 there is permanent tinnitus, and there is transient hearing damage which lasts up to about a week. if you've just been to a concert, expect improvements over the next week. I sincerely hope it's the latter that you mention. I've had a low ringing in my ears which i can only describe as tinnitus for as long as i can remember. And it's never really bothered me. I've been to many loud concerts and gigs, worked in some industrial environments with a lot of noise but my hearing still (hopefully) is fairly good. I should fucking know by now to wear ear plugs to gigs, i walk away from almost every band with things sounding like i have cotton wool packed in my ears. I've always worn hearing protection at work so can only contribute the ringing to those gigs and listening to music to loudly. I might even go and have a hearing test just for the sake of it. Here's to not learning from past experience cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
synchromesh Posted February 3, 2011 Those are by far the best earplugs I've ever used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mesq Posted February 3, 2011 These are the best plugs i've used... but horses for courses aye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert&Ernie Posted February 3, 2011 did you know u can use this ringing to you advantage for lucid dreaming or if u like astral projection quote from: http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/using-ringing-your-ears-84115/ "09-24-2009 10:30 AM #2 lemmefly Member -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Join Date:May 2009 Posts:50 Thanks:4I have used these inner sounds to WILD succesfully a couple of times. For me it usually begins with a low volume rushing sound, but often I can turn it louder just by concentrating on it. After a wile the sound turns into something that is more like ringing, I would describe it as a vibrating sound wave. I then just let this get louder and more intense until I can feel my body vibrating and hear this really loud ringing. Afterwards I just wait until it stops again and just stand up with my non-physical body in a copy of my bedroom. The vibrations and sound are basically trigger and indicator at the same time. After the vibrations fade off, you might think that you are still just laying there with your physical body and actually miss the opportunity of just entering the LD. I had that happen to me a couple of times before I realized that I was in an LD already and didnt have to wait for anything else after that. My success rate with this is pretty low though, I can do this maybe once every 2 weeks and usually only with WBTB. Hope that helps." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zen Peddler Posted February 3, 2011 I only get it when ive drunk too much coffee or am getting a headache Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bℓσωηG Posted February 3, 2011 What ever you do , don't try and substitute torn off cigarette butts for quality earplugs , they are difficult to retrieve lol.... i notice the ringing in my ears gets louder when ive had a binge of junk-food or alcohol, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
synchromesh Posted February 3, 2011 mesq - How much do those ones cost? The ones I posted cost a dollar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luminous Posted January 8, 2012 Why the fuck didn't i wear earplugs? Hearin ya, unfortunately. I neglected the ear safety thing for years, and the most amazing thing is just how much ridiculously loud music it takes before you end up with permanent, noticeable damage. Really floored me when I first realised how stupid I'd been, more so because it coincided with the biggest surge in interest for music and sound I'd had in my life, only to realise that I'd lost that silence which is conducive to the ability to really sink into sound. I use attenuating plugs now and they're fantastic. The only thing that helped me with the impending depression after I realised I'd never 'hear' silence again was biofeedback techniques for reducing my awareness of the noise. Extremely effective in a short time, I'm aware now perhaps only 5% of the time and it doesn't bother me all that much unless I get a "what if" twinge. Thing is, I do feel more on edge in general these days and I'm suspicious of the role high-pitched white-noise, even in the background, has on mood over a long period of time. It can certainly feel like torture, irrespective of what the US administration chooses to acknowledge. One of the things I remember from the early days is that I initially freaked and started looking for cures, no matter how miraculous, until the message that this only leads to disappointment sunk in and I settled on the biofeedback thing. I did decide, however, that I would use the noise as a bit of a yardstick, in a similar fashion to the lucid dreaming suggestion above, for my journeying, and the sole hope for liberation I have retained is that perhaps somewhere, someday, I'll find my way into the company of an entity that can help. I haven't had the opportunity to visit with Aya but with all her healing prowess I kinda have a...fantasy?...hope?...that at some stage I'll wander into the jungle and wander out healed. Why not, really, I guess, at the very least it'll contribute to my own empirical knowledge. Anyone have any anecdotal evidence re the efficacy of ayahuasca in the treatment of tinnitus? Wouldn't that be grand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
migraineur Posted January 8, 2012 mesq - How much do those ones cost? The ones I posted cost a dollar. Custom made noise attenuating earplugs normally will cost you a few hundred dollars but you can use them over and over again. You have to go to a place that specialises in hearing services to get these (W.A. has Western Hearing Services). If you are a sound engineer or DJ etc then you'd probably want to get a custom made pair as you'd be using them all the time. If you just go to gigs here and there then I'd recommend getting yourself a pair of these http://www.hearos.com/products/high-fidelity . I have a pair and they cost me $30. They can be used over and over again and they lower the decibels without lowering the quality. It also doesn't matter as much if you lose them or put them through the wash cos they only cost $30. A girl I know had her custom made ones go through the wash recently which is very costly. The problem with the $1 earplugs that you posted (and most others) is that they muffle the sound so your music listening experience will not be as good and it'll be harder to have a conversation whilst you're wearing them. Custom made and noise attenuating will lower the decibels without ruining sound quality. http://www.hearos.com/products/high-fidelity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OPP Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I like my music LOUD. THis means that I'm the guy right on front of the speakers at gigs especially if its bassy. The worst i have ever had tinnitus was after a Valve Soundsystem dubstep gig in London. THis was the loudest gig I have ever been to and i've been to a fair few. http://4.bp.blogspot...+004smaller.JPG The picture doesn't do it justice as it was twice as big and in small area. I couldn't hear for days after but thankfully it went away completely. At work I am very careful with my ears around drop saws, grinders, saws etc and always wear earmuffs but on the weekends its a different story Also over the years I have found that high end music such as techno has a far more noticeable and lasting effect on my hearing than low end music like dubstep. Edited January 8, 2012 by OPP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Distracted Posted January 8, 2012 This is the house of invisible forests. Eating words and producing silence. An acre of wood for each square metre, wet and cold, trudging through the empty space. My ears bleed noise that nobody else hears. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThunderIdeal Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) hearing is traditionally lost in higher frequencies, i wonder if the advent of bass music is changing that? it's amazing how often workers disregard ear protection. i am pretty vigilant although as i understand it, sporadically using even rather loud plant such as a chainsaw, for a minute or two, isn't enough to cause damage. nonetheless if you go to use a softer machine like a lawnmower it is still only a matter of X minutes before you start to damage your hearing. ya never get it back :| (unless it is damage of the temporary, repaired in a week variety) i've never found any reason to believe otherwise. i was pretty impressed by the most recent metallica gigs in australia. the sound was just amazing, without being painful, just smooth awe inspiring sonic goodness. they sure as hell weren't borrowing any of the PA at boondall they had all their own gear. endless money can buy some pretty sweet sound. Edited January 8, 2012 by ThunderIdeal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
