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I bought this from Thailand and it was a crest. I grafted 2 section of it but the reverted to normal and now I feel somethings happening

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ariocarpus trichocereus chimera

perhaps i should threaten them more often, flower or die type comments ;p.

I'm hoping this pic shows up, cause I want to hear what others say about this precious, I have been told it is probally the biggest badass astrophytum in the Southern Hemisphere. What do SABers think about this one?

Cat is not for sale.

Due to EG PMing a note to me on huanucoensis, I'm going to resurrect a seriously ancient thread just to say that I presently have to believe that the huanucoensis located in the front bed near the plant shop at UC is a pachanot. (I will also get it together to finish where I somehow dropped the ball on completing adding the images at thee start of this)

From botanical gardens or assorted collections Photos below are by K. Trout except for wherever it is noted otherwise. All copyrights remain with the photographers. A Peruvian "Cereus" at Berkeley that is clearly a Trichocereus. Field collected in Peru in 1968. This one stays surprisingly short for its appearance. I've ben watching it grow since 1997 and have never seen it past waist tall. Maybe this is the normal habit or maybe its the corner placement in the garden inviting pruning and thievery?? http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...8_0235_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...8_0235_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...8_0235_kt_3.jpg bridgesii Collected in Bolivia in 1953. Berkeley Images still to come bridgesii (FK) http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...gesii_FK_kt.jpg bridgesii KK919 http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._KK919_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._KK919_kt_2.jpg bridgesii at Bob Ressler's website http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...t_bridgesii.jpg cuzcoensis Berkeley Collected near Cuzco http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oensis_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oensis_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oensis_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oensis_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oensis_kt_5.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oensis_kt_6.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oensis_kt_7.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_fl_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_fl_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_fr_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_fr_kt_2.jpg cuzcoensis at Bob Ressler's photo site http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus..._cuzcoensis.jpg http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...uzcoensisfl.jpg http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...uzcoensisfr.jpg cuzcoensoid This large patch is growing in Central CA. I was there with a friend who has visited Cuzco several times. He is a long time Trichocereus grower who has closely examined the cactus around Cuzco firsthand. His opinion is that the material shown is identical to the primary Trich that is growing in abundance around Cuzco. I too have no trouble viewing this as cuzcoensis. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ensoid_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ensoid_kt_2.jpg escayachensis http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...hensis_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...hensis_kt_2.jpg Echinopsis forbesii (Lab.) A.Dietr. This was obtained as a seedling back in the 1930s. Its now around 9 feet tall. Huntington Backeberg thought this a form of validus. Borg noted occurrences in Paraguay which is where this plant's line was originally sourced. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ii_HBG_kt_1.jpg huanucoensis Collected from the wilds of Peru by Harry S. Johnson Sr. Several forms exist; all were apparently grown from Johnson's collected seeds. huanucoensis Two forms at Berkeley are labeled Peru 56.1153 Front garden: http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...eley_A_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...eley_A_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...eley_A_kt_5.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_f_kt_00.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_f_kt_03.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_f_kt_04.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_f_kt_05.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_f_kt_07.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_f_kt_08.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...is_f_kt_011.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...is_f_kt_022.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...is_f_kt_023.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...is_f_kt_026.jpg Despite its flowering days coinciding with the flowering of the plants in the back garden rather than the pachanoi in the area. I am puzzled why the above should not be labeled a pachanoi. It would be interesting to study the wild population that Johnson harvested his seed from. The above specimen is pachanoi's girth, the below are at least an inch or more fatter. Back garden: http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._JonHanna_1.jpg Photo above was by Jon R. Hanna http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...eley_B_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...eley_B_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...eley_B_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...eley_B_kt_5.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._1153_kt_01.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._1153_kt_02.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._1153_kt_03.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._1153_kt_06.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...53_kt_fl_01.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...53_kt_fl_02.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...53_kt_fl_04.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...53_kt_fl_05.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...53_kt_fl_09.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...3_5_G_fruit.jpg Last photo was by my friend Geoffrey huanucoensis H18562 was also grown from Johnson's seeds. Huntington http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...18562_kt_02.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...18562_kt_03.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...18562_kt_01.jpg Seedling obtained in the Huntington's annual plant sale http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...62_sd_kt_01.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...62_sd_kt_02.jpg huanucoensis Growing in Southern California http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...nsis_SCal_K.jpg Photo above by my friend Kamm Obtained from the above; now growing north of the Bay. This column is over 6 inches in diameter http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...s_SCal_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...s_SCal_kt_2.jpg macrogonus Cereus macrogonus Salm-Dyck was described by Salm-Dyck using a plant in the Berlin Botanical Gardens. That plant had no origin information but was assumed to be from South America. Cereus macrogonus Otto was designated as the type for the genus Trichocereus yet Otto never published a description. Currently plagued by some confusion in horticulture. macrogonus Huntington (no collection data; acquisition records are missing but it was part of their original collection) http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ogonus_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ogonus_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ogonus_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ogonus_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ogonus_kt_5.jpg macrogonus Clone RS0004 http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...RS0004_kt_1.jpg macrogonus at Bob Ressler's photo page http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus..._macrogonus.jpg http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...acrogonusfl.jpg pachanoi (probably Backeberg's) http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...chanoi_kt_2.jpg pachanoi showing flowers and buds and fruits. Compare the grey and brown hairs with the black hairs on the fruit in E. Anderson's Echinopsis pachanoi photo. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...flower_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...flower_kt_5.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...flower_kt_6.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...22june02_kt.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._fruit_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...er_Zariat_3.jpg this last one above is by my friend Zariat and was taken in Australia. Note the interesting color of the tube, the black hairs and the nearly denuded ovary pachanoi KK339 Collected in Ecuador at the type locality of Britton & Rose by Karel Knize; obtained as a cutting directly from Knize http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oi_KK339_kt.jpg pachanoi from Ecuador at Bob Ressler's photo page http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus.../t_pachanoi.jpg http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus..._pachanoifl.jpg pachanoi Collected in Bolivia by Myron Kimnach http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._Bolivia_kt.jpg Some odd pachanoi offerings pachanoi OST 90641 Collected in Peru in the Quebrada Santa Cruz, Ancash Dept., at 3300 m (almost 10,000 feet) by Carlos Ostolaza. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...Ostolaza_kt.jpg People with access to the book "San Pedro" should compare this with the images there. This is the same plant as one that is pictured there. (The photograph above was taken August 2005) The above is now older older and maturing in plenty of sun outdoors rather than still being in a greenhouse. It is intermediates like this that wipe out any clean line between pachanoi and peruvianus. The following are the *same plants* shown while still growing in a greenhouse: June 2002: http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._1june02_kt.jpg June 2004: http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...June04_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...June04_kt_2.jpg purported spiny wild type pachanoi from North Peru. Both of the following were grown from JLHudson seeds who obtained their seeds from Karel Knize (of course) http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._NPeru_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._NPeru_kt_2.jpg People with access to the book "San Pedro" will probably be amused at how these are maturing in lots of sun. These tend to stay much shorter and denser spined if kept in a greenhouse. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._11feb01_kt.jpg The last image above is a picture of a seedling several years of age growing in a greenhouse. The "spiny wild" "pachanoi" N. Peru was grown from JLHudson seeds that they had obtained from Knize as KK1688. I am presently unclear how the phrase "spiny wild type pachanoi" came to be used. Based on my experiences with Knize, my best guess is some handwritten comment to JLHudson. (I'll ask next time I see them) What I have noticed re KK1688: In 1982, Knize was using KK1688 for a "sp. San Marcos" By the late 1990s, KK1688 sourced from Knize was being offered, through LER, as peruvianus forma North Peru. (KK1688 is not listed in the 1994 Knize catalog) (This is also the time period when pachanoi was the correct name for peruvianus according to the IOS, the Kew and CITES) In 2004, Knize listed the number KK1688 for a peruvianus from Ancash, San Marcos, Peru 2200m. The above are probably all the same but 'probably' is all we can say for sure. Depending on which version of his photos one decides is right, Knize's photo is not a bad match for that these look like in good sun. pachanoid (fat) We presently suspect this to be a hybrid between pachanoi and terscheckii. This is based on: 1. the presence of those two species. 2. the appearance of areoles/spination. 3. the tendency to branch both at the base and at head height. Columns shown are often 8-10 inches in diameter. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...hanoid_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...hanoid_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...hanoid_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...hanoid_kt_4.jpg The next two are of the lower part of a branch to illustrate the head height point of attachment. Note how this apparently nearly tore loose and then healed (cold? wet? a feature of the hybrid?) http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...hanoid_kt_5.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...hanoid_kt_6.jpg pachanoiXperuvianus (GF) All of these are F1 hybrids produced by cross pollination between a peruvianus GF and a typical Backeberg looking pachanoi. All were seed grown by the person doing the hand pollination. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...us_GF_kt_01.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...s_GF_kt_02a.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...s_GF_kt_02b.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...s_GF_kt_03a.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...s_GF_kt_03b.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...us_GF_kt_04.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...us_GF_kt_05.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...us_GF_kt_06.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...s_GF_kt_07a.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...s_GF_kt_07b.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...s_GF_kt_08a.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...s_GF_kt_08b.jpg pallarensis Grown in CA from Ritter seeds sourced via Winter in Germany; note the two forms. Berkeley Dismissed by Hunt due to Ritter's inadequate description. Regarded by many (including Ritter) as a possible peruvianus form/variety/subspecies. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...arensis_g_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...rensis_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...rensis_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...rensis_kt_3.jpg peruvianus two forms at Berkeley http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...twoforms_kt.jpg more photos of these two are below Peru 48.1540 This was started by them from seed in 1948 but the seed lacked collection data http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...8_1540_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...8_1540_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...8_1540_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...540_fl_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...540_fl_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...540_fl_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...540_fr_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...8_1540_kt_9.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...540_Tania_4.jpg Last photo was by my friend Tania Hutchison 543 (Peru 52.0762) This was collected around 70 miles from Lima in 1952 by Paul Hutchison http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...2_0762_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...2_0762_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...2_0762_kt_5.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...543_fl_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...543_fl_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...2_0762_kt_6.jpg Last photo above is of a young plant tip obtained from them as a seedling in their plant store year before last peruvianus Ancash Grown from JLHudson seeds of Knize's forma Ancash This is around 8 feet tall in a 5 gallon black plastic pot. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...Ancash_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...Ancash_kt_2.jpg The next is the same material as seedlings, first one is soon after arrival in the mail (Photo is by Logan Boskey): http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...h_Boskey_01.jpg The next year after some sun: http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ncash_kt_02.jpg peruvianus Elzner/GF Collected from the wilds of Peru many years ago (1950s?) The base of the mother plant was around 10 inches. Columns are commonly 6-8 inches. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...vianus_GF_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...nus_GF_kt_6.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...nus_GF_kt_5.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...nus_GF_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...nus_GF_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...nus_GF_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...nus_GF_kt_7.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...nus_GF_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...nus_GF_kt_9.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._GF_fl_0_kt.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._GF_fl_1_kt.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._GF_fl_2_kt.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._GF_fl_3_kt.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._GF_fl_4_kt.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._GF_fl_5_kt.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._GF_fl_7_kt.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._GF_fl_8_kt.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...F_fl_x_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...F_fl_x_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...F_fl_x_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...us_GF_fr_kt.jpg And a photo by GF http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...lowering_GF.jpg peruvianus Peru H14192 Huntington- collection data has been lost but is thought to be a collection from the 1950s by Harry S. Johnson Sr. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...H14192_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...H14192_kt_2.jpg peruvianus KK242 This collection number is what is known as locality number. It refers to material collected from a given altitude range at a given area rather than being from a single plant or colony. This first version was grown from a cutting obtained some years ago from Karel Knize. Photo was by someone who gave me permission to use it but did not want their name attached to it. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._KK242_Anon.jpg peruvianus KK242 seed grown in the US from Knize-sourced seeds http://trout.yage.net/sc/KK242_us/kk242USindex.htm Next photo is Hudson grown KK242. Knize was the seed source of course. Photo is by Logan Boskey http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...2_Boskey_03.jpg peruvianus KK242 Central Peru Live material obtained from Karel Knize http://trout.yage.net/sc/KKTrichs/KK242_AO...O1/AO1index.htm peruvianus KK242 forma Matucana Live material obtained from Karel Knize http://trout.yage.net/sc/KKTrichs/KK242_K3...39/K39index.htm peruvianus KK242 Rio Lurin "Lurim" on the website is a misspelling that hasn't been corrected yet. Live material obtained from Karel Knize http://trout.yage.net/sc/KKTrichs/KK242_J3...34/J33index.htm peruvianus KK242 forma Langa Live material obtained from Karel Knize http://trout.yage.net/sc/KKTrichs/KK242_L4...42/L42index.htm peruvianus KK242 Rio Chillon Live material obtained from Karel Knize http://trout.yage.net/sc/KKTrichs/KK242_E1...19/E19index.htm The next two cuttings appear to be the same but arrived unlabeled http://trout.yage.net/sc/KKTrichs/KK242_E2...20/E20index.htm http://trout.yage.net/sc/KKTrichs/KK242_E2...21/E21index.htm Note how much suggestion there is of this being a hybrid. peruvianus from Bob Ressler's photo page http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus..._peruvianus.jpg http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...us_matucana.jpg http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...ianus_rimac.jpg purported short spined peruvianus (CCC: California Cactus Center) http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ed_CCC_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ed_CCC_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ed_CCC_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...ed_CCC_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...undles_kt_3.jpg The vascular bundle of the CCC short spined peruvianus compared to that of an identical diameter pachanoi. A slice was taken from each one, the surrounding portions trimmed away and the remaining flesh then allowed to rot. Notice what a pachanoi bundle looks like when still together. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...chanoi_kt_1.jpg purported short spined peruvianus Huancabamba Collected at Huancabamba, Peru by a Dutch citizen who is married to a Peruvian woman. The collector of the seeds sold Mesa Garden their stock. This multibranching plant was grown from Mesa Garden seed by Oasis. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...abamba_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...abamba_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...abamba_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...abamba_kt_4.jpg Next photo is of seedlings from Mesa Garden seed. I will upload some pictures of them when older. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...abamba_kt_5.jpg Comments 1) This looks more or less like a typical Peruvian pachanoi intermediate. And not at all far from a typical Peruvian pachanoi. 2) There seems nothing that would make this a peruvianus unless perhaps its a hybrid involving it at some point. peruvianoid? (FK) No label. These pictures are of different parts of one large plant growing outdoors in partial sun/shade. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oid_FK_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oid_FK_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oid_FK_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oid_FK_kt_4.jpg Another. No label. Purchased at Poot's cactus. These pictures are all of one single plant. Note how much more spiny the new basal growth is. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oid_GB_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oid_GB_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oid_GB_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...oid_GB_kt_4.jpg Two more at Bob Ressler's website http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus/t_sp1.jpg http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus/t_sp2.jpg puquiensis (now considered to be a ssp of peruvianus) Collected near Puquio, Peru Berkeley http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...iensis_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...iensis_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...iensis_kt_6.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...iensis_kt_9.jpg puquiensis Cutting from Bob Ressler http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...iensis_kt_2.jpg riomizquiensis Grown from Ritter seed by Horst Kunzler http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...quiensis_kt.jpg santaensis OST 92701 Collected by Carlos Ostolaza in the Santa Valley, Peru around 3000 m http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...tolaza_kt_1.jpg scopulicola growing in Oz (NSW) Note the odd spiny variant http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...licola_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...licola_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...licola_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...licola_kt_5.jpg sp Baker 5452 Collected in Bolivia as a pachanoi, this is clearly a bridgesii http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...er5452_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...er5452_kt_3.jpg sp. Hutchison 1597 Collected at Huancabamba in 1957 by Paul Hutchison (Berkeley Peru 57.0884) Labeled pachanoi until someone noticed its flowers around a couple of years ago http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...7_0884_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...7_0884_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...7_0884_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...7_0884_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...7_0884_kt_5.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...7_0884_kt_6.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...7_0884_kt_7.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._0884_kt_01.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._0884_kt_02.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._0884_kt_03.jpg sp. SS02 A bridgesioid that lacks origin data Note the variability in spination. This can be on a single column or not. These are two different columns from the same clone. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...p_SS02_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...p_SS02_kt_2.jpg sp. SS03 A peruvianoid (a suspected hybrid) that lacks origin data http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery..._sp_SS03_kt.jpg tacaquirensis Berkeley http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...rensis_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...rensis_kt_2.jpg tacaquirensis at Bob Ressler's website http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...caquirensis.jpg taquimbalensis Collected in Bolivia by Roberto Kieseling Huntington 68146 http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...G68146_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...G68146_kt_2.jpg taquimbalensis Mesa Garden http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_MG_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...sis_MG_kt_2.jpg taquimbalensis at Bob Ressler's website http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...uimbalensis.jpg tarmaensis Collected near Tarma, Peru Berkeley http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...aensis_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...aensis_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...aensis_kt_3.jpg terscheckii Berkeley The apparent lack of spination only occurs on the top portions of adults http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...heckii_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...heckii_kt_8.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...heckii_kt_9.jpg terscheckii Paul's Desert http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...kii_PD_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...kii_PD_kt_2.jpg terscheckii at Bob Ressler's website http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...i_varigated.jpg http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...rscheckiifl.jpg http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...scheckiifls.jpg uyupampensis Berkeley Sourced as cutting from Jardin de Monaco who obtained theirs from Backeberg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...pensis_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...pensis_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...pensis_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...pensis_kt_4.jpg uyupampensis at Bob Ressler's website http://www.columnar-cacti.org/trichocereus...yupampensis.jpg Notice how the appearance of this seedling suggests it that is a hybrid with something else in the garden. validus http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...alidus_kt_1.jpg werdermannianus Two forms at Berkeley Bolivia 50.1998 http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...nianus_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...0_1998_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...0_1998_kt_3.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...0_1998_kt_4.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...0_1998_kt_5.jpg Bolivia 71.0083 http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...1_0083_kt_1.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...1_0083_kt_2.jpg http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/gallery...1_0083_kt_3.jpg More images and details will keep coming as fast as time permits. 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nice plants zelly, as usual but isnt caespitosa simply a term used to identifiy a form of growth, not strictly a variety? I know there is a variety that is caespitose, but otherwise normal varieties/species can cerftainly grow caespitose. Maybe its the beer talking, but many grafted "normal" plants will grow in this fashion, no? Seems a little bit like calling me a race of brown when i get a suntan, then back to caucasian when i stay indoors for a month. For me a variety needs to be genetic and reproducible in different environmental circumstances. Just saying, might be outa my ass though. Philocacti, in my opinion, there are 4 true species and 5 i like to recognize: L. diffusa, fricii, koehresii and williamsii. From growing and breeding, i personally want to call jourdaniana a distinct species but i know there are rules to follow and they arent found in the wild last time i checked so we cant really say that but i feel it is different from other lophs on the species level. I totally agree with the kaktusy publication that diffusa/fricii/koehresii are more closely related to each other than to williamsii. and i also feel fricii and koehresii are perhaps the closest of all the lophs. i may be reading it wrong, but why would "variegated"loph = williamsii? i have bred variegated hybrids of other lophs that didnt include williamsii, as well as soem that didnt incldue eitehr willy or diffusa. i veiw variegated as a retardation and can be present in any species. I dont really subscribe to the "varieties" like pentagona as tehy are seemingly more jsut random froms that take place. i see platns with the 6 rib formation with other offsets being regualy 5/8 formation. If ti can be reproduced consistantly, then i think its worth looking into, otherwise its just natural variation, not variety. EG i have lots of pictures of cultivated plants, if you need any send me a message. most of my pics are of the 5, or are organised as teh 5, i mentioned above.

as soon as you head indoors, wash the pollen off your hands and face. it makes a huge difference. ma huang (ephedra) was mentioned - chinese medicine says you should steer clear of it for hayfever. hayfever's considered a hot-natured condition, so it should be treated with cool medicinals. ma huang is one of the hottest herbs we have, so it's likely to exacerbate symptoms if used incorrectly. try a tea with sage, peppermint, chrysanthemum, and goji berries instead. should help clear the hayfever and treat the accompanying feverishness, sore throat, and dry eyes. add a bit of crushed magnolia bud as well if you have it to help open the sinuses, but you don't need much of this and it isn't entirely necessary. in a pinch, plain old peppermint tea is usually adequate - along with my above advice to wash off the pollen.

Hey Auxin, to answer your question, once in february and once in march, i dissolved 2 tblspn' s(i know, REAL scientific) of msg, and 1 tspn of sugar per gallon of water. i also ground up 1 adult multivitamin high in trace minerals and 1 calcium, per gallon. when the water cooled to around 110f i added white widow mycorrhizal powder as directed, and then watered regularly. i also watered with coconut juice a few times last spring as well, just randomly when i would buy a coconut with the kids anyway. i got alotta flowers this year, but again that could just be the weather we had in southern california from even last summer throughout (the pachanoi flowers at a local theme park were bustn this year as well). I think the sure way to get flowers is to grow your cactus to maturity. the hunt for hormone induced flowering is for early column flowering or hard-to-flower types like tbm or whatever. i just like having fun in my cactus garden and messing around. i bap'd my first areoles this summer as well this summer. that was pretty successful. a few of my buddies on this forum, and some from other groups are gearing up to do some more calculated experiments this winter and spring with msg, which im sure they'll post on this thread, or i can share from others if/when i see stuff. cheers!

I have to confess.I have a huge crush on Maytel Cohan.

I did absolutely nothing this yr , no ferts no nada & also had an EPIC year of flowering & the sad truth is there's still more to come. Just speaking from experience, it's highly doubtful (imho) any chemical process is going to promote flowering in trich's. perhaps in other plants & cacti but not in columnar trichs. if you ever get a chance, cut through an areole that has previously produced a flower & you'll see support structures that took months to develop......

DCLIW Pigface is in flower

repotted about 7 trichos and re-reorganised a tad more..

the wright brothers didnt land on the moon--- you've given us all hope!

Thanks mate! Nice meeting you.,all the best with your venture. Great plants!

lol that koehresi bridgesi needs viagra

Myeloblast - what a beautiful collection you have !!!

"and in case you're wondering, I will definitely hit a cripple." - Starbuck, BSG.

Mate i have shit loads of flowers coming on my two big scops and bird said that he reckons his scop has more flowers coming on than last year and he must have had 30-40 min. If we cant get some pure scops between these plants something is wrong!! I will keep in close contact when time comes nigh. Im super keen to share the scop love to all our mates especially them on the other continents where they may bit more difficult to find. If anyone has a request for any particular scop crosses....let me know and i will try and track down the pollen. Also i know its a bit early but if you think you may want some of birds or my scop pollen let me know? Always happy to help Cheers B Edited for poor spelling

One of my seed grown scops has at least 9 flower buds starting to form, first time this one has flowered. I still have pollen from Master B's "Bird's Bondi Scop" left in my freezer from last season so even if I don't have another scop flower this year, (hopefully I do), I will try to create more true spineless scop seeds to spread around to the community! It's the same scop that fell over in my garden a few months ago. http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=29996&p=507313

Grafts of masterB crosses : bondi scop x explorer scop bondi scop x eileen bondi scop x yowie Grafts of zelly hybrids: scop x huaraz scop x bertha Anyone have 5 seeds to trade from zelly's Scopulicola x Lumberjack ..?

Being housebound for the day, i managed to bewilder my flatmate, upon the 8 or 9th time i misted my humidity loving indoor entheos she burst out with something along the lines of 'obsessed', 'need to get a life/girlfriend', 'you care for those plants as if the're people', etc, etc at other times ive heard 'if you bring one more bloody cactus home i'm moving out' she just doesn't understand