PSYCHONAUT DATING SITE?

[lofty86]

Its happend to me once again another relationship over because of my apparent drug problem. come on is it really such a big deal if i set some time aside once a fortnight to explore my conciousness? or have a few pipes to unwind after work? well aparently it is. it is so hard to find somone on the same page or even reading from the same book. evrytime its the same old story "your a really nice guy but you need to get over your drug problem" WHAT FUCKING PROBLEM i dont think drugs are a problem just people and i never intend on giving up somthing i love so much and get so much out of, nor should i have to just to appease somone elses ideal of what is right or wrong. will i ever find somone who shares my point of veiw or at least could tolerate my lifestyle.

i would like to hear from others with similar issuse (or am i just a freak)

There are specialised dating sites for Christians, Gays, and even Gold diggers, why not Psychonauts!!!

Change or be alone!!! I choose neither any 1 else think this might be a good idea?

[Ace]

I'm gonna get flamed for this (and please don't take it personal), but if those around you don't want to be around you because 'you have a problem', doesn't that indicate something? Maybe it would be best to ease up and do things on a less regular and smaller scale? A few pipes after work each day soon becomes a habit, just as a few beers do.

Each to their own, but I'd take it as a wake up call to get back on the sobre track and limit use to a more 'relationship friendly' level. After all, being intoxicated on regular occasions often leads to relationship breakdowns because the two are on different wavelengths. It can also cause moodswings and other things that prevent rational thought and limit the ability to compromise.

All that aside, good luck with finding the one.

[gerbil]

Don't mean to get into personals, but these people who say those things to you, do they drink alcohol? Or love their coffee? and as an outsider tobacco?

There are people out there who will understand you and accept you for who you are.

Besides it happening over time in every day life and spontaneous or gradual meetings through friends etc, i'd say your best chance would be attending meets like EGA and similar gatherings like doofs or plant meets/conferences etc., be them small or large, and probably specific to what you like. People who go to EGA and the likes are usually of the same accepting mature mindset that you are talking about, not to say people can't have their problems, but they are more or less over the childish attitudes towards substances in this modern world.

i totally relate to what you are saying, so no you are not alone or a freak (but if so, there are others like you ) and it's not just relationships, friendships or social communication in general, but relationships are born from friendships i guess.

I reckon this is one specific area that never really gets taken into consideration regarding mental damage and social isolation/separation in society due to mentalities fostered by drug laws. IME it's not the 'drugs' that cause the most instability in people, it's the way they are treated and the restrictions imposed upon them and subsequent lifestyle and potentially lies they need to pursue, a very difficult statement, i know substances can cause issues but i think people know what i'm getting at.

As much as i think it's important to try and be friendly and educate people who have such bias attitudes, at the same time it's very hard to not tell them all to go fuck themselves.

edit: and just caught aces post, and that's true, if things are potentially a problem that is something you need to be able to be aware of and address within yourself; my comments are from the perspective that it specifically isn't a problem, which is something difficult to figure out i guess.

Edited August 2, 2009 by gerbil

[mutant]

I see no reason why one would flame you Ace , and btw, where have you been ?

lofty86, if 86 is the date of birth, then you have some years ahead to find some balance in these things, the man-lady thing, the oldest of all matters! - note: not that I regard myself a casanova of some sorts!

My dogs also smokes cannabis, a lot, and usually at nights. But what if the nights are the moments you usually meet your girl? Or after work?

Cannabis intoxication, especially chronic usey makes an individual less emotionally expressive towards the loved ones. My dog also says that when he is in a relationship, especially if the girl interest him quite a bit, he says his usual high cannabis intake is automatically reduced to much less, and that's because he doesn't feel like doing it.

For a much more occasional thing like a psychedelic experience, it's not a big deal, if the girl understand your 'thing' but how often is 'once a fortnight' - maybe you should consider most people find these habits rather dangerous and alien.

I will conclude that maybe you haven't yet found yet some girl you really connect to each other, or maybe the particular girls didn't really understand you .

Even though, as Ace said, the thing is you might indeed do it too much to provide a girl with the attention she needs...

[Μορφέας]

nor should i have to just to appease somone elses ideal of what is right or wrong

change your attitude, you have to appease to your partner occasionally as you will NEVER agree completely at any point, When people say things like that, and 'im not changing myself ever for anyone' and the like, i say, well your a fool, enjoy being single! We should all practice conscious consideration and learn tolerance and the skill of humoring someone, I'm not saying you should completely change, but its important to find middle ground in many things.

Edited August 2, 2009 by Μορφέας

[G*P]

Choose and justify your own reality strongly enough, and so will everyone else.

There's heaps of chicks ready to be supported by a powerful, unique and alternative approach to the world.

Only you know what is right for you.

[Torsten]

when I was 18-21 I had an on-again off-again girlfriend who didn't mind smoking a bit of pot, but hated hallucinogens like shrooms and acid. While we got on real well when straight or stoned we simply did not click when I was tripping [either alone or with her]. we essentially split over drug consumption, simply because we did not have the same preferences.

point is that it's not always about consumption being out of control or even affecting your life negatively, it can simply be about your partner not liking that part of you. After that experience I made a rule that I'll never get serious with anyone unless I've tripped with them and we both enjoyed ourselves.

Daily consumption is a different thing altogether though. Daniel hates me drinking and I hate him smoking pot, so we ended up agreeing to a compromise. if your partner doesn't have any such vices then it is hard to find such a compromise.

[lofty86]

Im not going to flame anyone for trying to help it would just be nice to meet someone who didnt interpret my belifes as mental illness someone who i could talk to about lucid dreamimg or how i can see the music somtimes without them suggesting i seek professional help or even someone who dosnt flip out that ive had a few pipes befor there friends come over (they were all drinking i dont i wasnt going to pull my billy out in front of em or anything) and i usually wait till after ive done the dirty before i rip a few down LOL

i started this thread because i was genuinly interested in the idea of a psychonaut dating site? but i think the emotional charge in my first post overpowerd the idea i was trying to convey but thank you guys for your imput and support.

[lofty86]

point is that it's not always about consumption being out of control or even affecting your life negatively, it can simply be about your partner not liking that part of you. After that experience I made a rule that I'll never get serious with anyone unless I've tripped with them and we both enjoyed ourselves.

Thats a great rule torsten thanx! and you really hit the nail on the head about the point i was getting at

Edited August 2, 2009 by lofty86

[C_T]

lucid dreaming? What really is that? sleep deprivation at its finest. Maybe a bad example.

[mauve]

lucid dreaming? What really is that? sleep deprivation at its finest. Maybe a bad example.

oh yes, and LSD makes your brain bleed

[coin]

sometimes the issue can be with the methods of consumption. like getting tired of watching someone suck on a massive bong/holding breath/smoke everywhere (or even if they smoke outside, the disgusting rotting cabbage smell that follows them around or permeates from their mouth despite repeated brushing)/hearing bubbling or scissors going "snip snip snip/clink clink" all night in the other room every 20 minutes

personally i find watching people inhaling a particular gas out of balloons for extended periods of time can be a bit creepy and gross/disturbing especially when other substances are eliciting heavy sweating and leg spasms etc, lying in a massive pile of bulbs along with hearing the bulbs clinking in the boxes, and cracking and balloons inflating for like 2 hours

when you have a fairly minor issue/concern with someone's substance use, these things can really push you over the edge after a while

Edited August 2, 2009 by coin

[incognito]

personally i find watching people inhaling a particular gas out of balloons for extended periods of time can be a bit creepy and gross/disturbing especially when other substances are eliciting heavy sweating and leg spasms etc, lying in a massive pile of bulbs along with hearing the bulbs clinking in the boxes, and cracking and balloons inflating for like 2 hours

if any females on this board however find this extremely attractive please contact me asap.

[t st tantra]

sometimes the issue can be with the methods of consumption. like getting tired of watching someone suck on a massive bong/holding breath/smoke everywhere (or even if they smoke outside, the disgusting rotting cabbage smell that follows them around or permeates from their mouth despite repeated brushing)/hearing bubbling or scissors going "snip snip snip/clink clink" all night in the other room every 20 minutes

personally i find watching people inhaling a particular gas out of balloons for extended periods of time can be a bit creepy and gross/disturbing especially when other substances are eliciting heavy sweating and leg spasms etc, lying in a massive pile of bulbs along with hearing the bulbs clinking in the boxes, and cracking and balloons inflating for like 2 hours

when you have a fairly minor issue/concern with someone's substance use, these things can really push you over the edge after a while

maybe the creepyness was enhanced because you were ingesting the gas they were breathing out?

maybe similar issue with other substances,peeps getting low level doses from their partners of something they dont like and didnt want?

t s t .

[t st tantra]

once had a gf who enjoyed tripping but i didnt enjoy her laughing hysterically for 3 or 4 hours at

everything......even when driving!

t s t .

[Korky]

if it is such a large part of your life style then it is not enough for you to find some one who will just tolerate it, sharing the intensity of exploring the universe with a partner can be very very intimate. i completely acknowledge that finding such a partner can be difficult but being single trumps a second rate relationship.

gerbils advice is a great start and even the mainstream internet dating sites have 'alternative' individuals looking for people like your self, their not in great excess of course but definitely worth your attention. consider putting yourself on one with all the honesty required to avoid waisting time and energy trying to establish how 'open minded' some one might be. people peruse these sites without a profile of their own... you never know who may be looking for an explorer!

i, like many here will be checking out your psychonaut dating site.

it is a real surprise to me that finding some one curious about themselves and all that makes this circus possible the exception and not the rule?

apparently culture is not your friend...

theres always a relationship with yourself.

[AndyAmine.]

Sounds great only major problem I see is that the male to female ratio will probabaly be even less than at this forum

[rahli]

Sounds great only major problem I see is that the male to female ratio will probabaly be even less than at this forum

I don't think that will be a problem for the OP.

[coin]

on an unrelated note, what % of the ethno community is gay compared to the general wider community?

is it pretty much the same?

[lofty86]

Oh yeah i forgot to mention i am also gay not to say i wouldnt be open to love from a woman but i am yet to find myself attracted to one so im assuming thats not my karma this time round

[Foton]

some text for the search engines psychedelic, psychonaut, entheogen, shaman, trip, tripping, drug, pot, weed, dope ... dating, love, single, relationship

Any women interested in an entheogenically open-minded young man pm me! (im in south of south australia)

Some sort of internet system to facilitate this could be set up. Perhaps we could start a facebook group called entheogen/ethnobotanical dating or similar?

on an unrelated note, what % of the ethno community is gay compared to the general wider community?

is it pretty much the same?

perhaps you could start a thread with a poll?

[coin]

i would if i cared enough plus i dont like polls

would have to think about labels and checkboxes and kinsey scores

give it time lofty...are you early-20's something ? it takes a while before love is not so highly-conditional anyway...there's always something. saying you have a drug problem could just mean "you don't spend enough of your time validating my ego" at the same time, don't self-identify too much with the things you like doing and taking...then the inevitable compromises that torsten mentioned, will come a lot easier

(btw, the sort of person you're looking for probably doesn't post face pics )

Edited August 3, 2009 by coin

[FancyPants]

To a point I can understand why someone's partner might consider some substance intake a problem, maybe not so much they think you're addicted or on a serious path to self-destruction, but moreso the particulars of use. Blah blah blah I'm trying to say like in the case of my cat smoking cannabis most nights it can turn her into a forgetful dumbass with not so good conversational skills. Fun to be around at the time, and always a happy giggly dumbass, but the smoke can be cloying, breath and fingers smelly (chop chop chop...pack...stoke...exhale). Personally I myself don't have a problem with her smoking. I do however get pretty annoyed with the smell of booze everywhere, hate the clink of many bottles clustered waiting to be taken to the recycle bin. Resentful that a boozer's substance of choice is easily available, without legal issues, and boozers can get so friggin' irritating and annoying! They think they're being funny but they're not, they wreck shit with uncoordination, they can easily turn into different people, get aggressive at the drop of a hat. When I used to binge drink every weekend I'd turn into an arrogant bitch. I don't like that, it's not me so I hardly ever drink anymore because I don't want to subject others to that person. Yet so many people just don't care what they're like after drinks because they feel like they're "cooler" or some shit.

Obviously everyone's different and results may vary.

There's no way I could handle dating someone who disapproves of my cat's smoking. Fuck off you're not my mother. Actually my mum is more understanding and has even said she's glad it's pot and not booze. I hate hate hate people telling me what to do unless they've got a good damn reason to - and I'm very open to personal criticism by close friends and family. Crippled or not I loathe being coddled.

Maybe the ethno/psychonaut chick shortage isn't indicative from a web forum? Most females I know don't actually use computers that much, and the ones that do are generally "straight" types. I'm a dorkus mallorkus with no job, so the internet is a given. I just happen to love taking and learning about substances too.

One of my best mates is a hot chick, absolutely beautiful inside and out, loves her green more than even my cat, loves going out and having a good time, loves her psyches, is an amazing cook (actually chef by trade), and yes boyz she's single She's not computer keen though and not ready for a gentleman friend yet, sorry guys I'm not passing her number along hehe. You'll just have to leave the house if you ever wish to meet her acquaintance ;)

[apothecary]

Can't wait till the Aliens get here and make us pair off for the forced mating...things will be so much simpler.

[FancyPants]

^^^ It took me 19 years to get a root the first time I'm damn well not waiting until 2012 and then possibly ending up with god forbid Tom Arnold or some douchebag like Shannon Noll.