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Hi guys im doing a moustache for movember and would love if every one could sponsor me and donate a bit of money for a good cause Here is my mo so far Here is the link to my movember page http://au.movember.com/mospace/4924313

Yeah just a plain old scop IMO, juvenilles often exhibit different to traits to there adult form, think of young lophs with spines. I'm sure with age it will lose its spikieness. Time will tell. I still wonder where hamilton gets their seed... Nice score BTW

Evolution can occur quite quickly, over just a few generations it seems some species quickly gain and lose certain abilities, I heard of a recent study on Chrysanthemums which saw an isolated group lose the ability to deal with certain pests over 8 generations, this apparently occurred at the genetic level, which is surprisingly fast. However, one would also expect such species to have a similar ability to change back (or switch the genes back on?) were they in different conditions, otherwise species would quickly be wiped out when climate or environmental conditions change. Only the more robust (genetically variable) species tend to survive, and over time they change and develop with the changing climate, environment, and other species around them. While humans have developed an ability to adjust the environment around them as another ability to help them survive within that environment, it doesn't preclude genetic change as well. It is very possible that humans have lost and gained some abilities over their more recent time on this planet. The ability to digest certain foods, for example. The ability to readily use tryptamines and other substances to gain insight into other realms may be another. It's an interesting concept, but the body's ability to convert all sorts of different foods into what it requires is pretty extraordinary as it is, so without reading the paper I do have a few doubts about the finer details. As others have pointed out, the main drawback to the theory is that there are monkeys and other animals that survive on a diet much more rich in fruit than ours, and yet they don't appear to show the same signs of intellectual development that we do. While I agree that we also live in a collective insanity, I think that's a cultural / learned response. I eat hardly any fruit (except tomatoes), yet I have the ability to stand outside our society and see it for how it appears from a different perspective, this inability to see what is happening from a different perspective is exactly the problem all modern cultures suffer from, whether their diets are low in fruit or not. Being born into what essentially amounted to a cult, I quickly learned new perspectives when exposed to the rest of society, and use of certain psychedelics expanded on that considerably, as well as reading massive amounts of imaginative material, which all fueled my imagination and gave me new perspectives. Sadly, fruit had very little to do with this as I ate almost none until quite recently. I am reminded of all those books my partner reads regarding diet and health, and the vast quantities of minerals and vitamins and other extraordinary amino acids and proteins that make up the "perfect diet", and yet my health is generally much better than hers, despite my refusal to eat anything but basic undercooked veggies, nuts, and a bit of chicken and fish because I like to and because I get hungry if I don't! (I don't eat wheat and have no added salt and no sugar although I will eat honey, yes. In fact, when I do take (under duress) Vitamin pills or any other additives, most of them seem to upset the happy balance I have in my diet rather than provide any useful boost to my health. My body converts the things I eat into the things I need, and I am sure that the human body quite readily coped, over so many generations, with the adjustments in diet it needed to make when it moved away from the fruit-rich rainforests to the varied environments spread across the planet.

check this out, its got crazy dropped ribs all over the show, almost in a spiral pattern Aerial shot of some of my babies

i know but if you could tunnel under facebook like he did with parliament

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Sorry chilli but those statistics you posted on page one of this thread don't show me that we live longer at all. I can't help myself but I have a bit of an issue with life expectancy statistics. I have a book somewhere written by a doctor (I can't remember what it is, it's buried in a mountain of books somewhere) The issue with life expectancy statistics is that they give a false impression that we are living longer when the truth is that we actually dying much younger than people from third world countries (once those people get past about age 10). The statistics are a gross misrepresentation of child mortality rates affecting the average age of death of any group of people. The statistics in chilli's chart can be used prove this. If I take a group of 100 people and they all live to an age of 70 then the average lifespan for that group is 70 years old. But if I take another group of 100 people and 40% of them die at less than 5 years old then average lifespan that group is dramatically lowered. If the sixty percent that actually survive past childhood they are likely to live much longer than westerners or people from developed countries. So if the second group had 40% of them die at age four and the rest of them were to live to 100 then the average lifespan would only be 64 years old. (I haven't had my coffee yet so I could be off the mark, maybe someone like CBL could crunch some numbers and prove/disprove this, mental arithmetic isn't one of my strong points) When they die before 1 year old it has an even more dramatic effect on average lifespans. All those statistics show me is that we are a lot better at preventing childhood mortality and if you survive past childhood you are much more likely to live to an old age in a third world country. In my book this referred to as the doctor effect.

SSO2 x TJG is my fastest grower - astonishingly so .

"i'm here to cultivate your bushes"

It makes me want to ride a pushbike.

I always thought scops when young had fairly large spines

Hmm looks just like a pure scop to me

Well, it seems that this discussion has good points on both sides. There's a few things I'd like to add: 1) The idea that chemicals from fruit being absent causing irreversible losses of certain chemicals and processes is possibly mostly incorrect. The brain is a lot like a "Control system" (Engineering concept), and when a disturbance is present, the brain will damp it to return to the ideal operating point. This mechanism is most evident during addiction, where the brain tries its best to anticipate, and reduce the effect of chemicals that appear quasi-periodically in the brain of the addict. The resulting "tolerance" is the disturbance rejection in action. Similarly when compounds that the brain has been anticipating go missing, it will do its best to adjust for it from other sources. For example, if you suddenly stop consuming protein - your body will catabolize itself for protein, using less and less protein each day. The entire time of course, you will be acutely aware of your desire for protein. So, the body can "find" much of what it needs, and force the operator (you) to go and find them. I suppose that if the body is unable to derive certain required compounds (as in the case of Vitamin C), AND it doesn't know it needs / would benefit from certain compounds, OR does not know where to derive certain nutrients from - then it's in big trouble. I get the feeling that many people deficient in Magnesium are completely unaware of it. 2) Fruit and vegetables have been artificially bred for at least hundreds of years, and today are scarcely the same as what was eaten in the past. Have you seen the size of an apple from the supermarket today? They are also mostly full of water, and very nutrient poor (studies confirm the relative lack of nutrients in produce today compared to yesteryear ). 3) Most of the studies espousing the benefits of various plant chemicals, just put cells into contact with these chemicals. In reality, many of these delicate chemicals are almost-wholly decomposed by the stomach pH and abundance of optimized enzymes. What's left often has very poor transference to the bloodstream. 4) The part of our brain that results in our supreme level of abstract thinking, is the neocortex. As far as I know, this part of the human brain has not shrunk by any means. The other areas of the brain may have just lost some redundancy, but might still retain 100% functionality, or become even more functional. It is a gigantic mistake to assume that any decrease in size, has decreased capacity for the brain function we determine to be meaningful. 5) "Insanity" (defined here as repeated aversion to the truth) is probably necessary for our survival, at least throughout the short-term. How much more complex would the world be if our eyes did not adjust for our blindspots, or didn't make the corrections to make the world appear how we think it should. We're not looking through eye-sized windows when we "see", we're taking the blips and beeps of chemical pulses and interpreting them deep within our brain. Your brain does all sorts of funny things it doesn't tell you about. If your brain didn't compensate for the differences in nerve density - this is how would you feel yourself to be: Right this very instant you're staring a Haidinger's brush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haidinger%27s_brush) right in the face and I can all but guarantee you would never have heard of it, and didn't have a clue. In other words, our very brain is "wired" to snip the truth out sometimes, so it's really nothing to do with the brain shrinking. As long as our brains remain the same functionally - they will promote certain "lies" (e.g. that you don't have a blindspot, that Haidinger's brush isn't there). 6) Lastly, de-evolution is not happening, by definition. Just as if you started running, then quickly stopped and started running backwards - at no point are you "de-running", you're just running in another direction. I think the idea is interesting, and I think it definitely contains some truth. However, the logical conclusion I'm sure is WAY too wrought. I think that while the idea that there is an institution of insanity is largely true, it's almost nothing to do with the simple absence or presence of food chemicals. I think that it's much more to do with the function of our society. I'll elaborate once I've worked out some ideas to do with the idea of short-term thinking being necessary for our survival.

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Stillman: I generally apply the sulfur as a dry powder, as it doesn't dissolve easily. Apply with a brush for the part of the plant that you can't reach by dropping sulfur on. applesnail: I think it might be because the stump is not actively growing where you are grafting it. How long ago did you cut the tip off the rootstock? How many centimetres were cut off the rootstock? Today my flatmate and I went to a cactus and succulent show, and saw all the epic plants on display. Some ancient plants were there, although I didn't see anything that I could say was certainly over 100 years old (but I'm by zero means knowledgeable on estimating a plant's age). Some rare plants there too. I got a small cutting of a Sceletium Tortuosum that was originally from the Brand river (Edit: Damnit, just checked and can't find this river - the guy must've had a typo). Coming home, we briefly went to a garden centre to get some perlite and a large pot. As we were leaving, we asked if we could take some of the pots from the recycling bin, and the guy was cool with that. So we took a decent amount of pots, with some of them being perhaps the most ideal seedling containers I've ever seen. At home, we repotted my flatmate's plant into the large pot. Then we prepared a seedling mix for some Lophophora seed (thanks again tipz). The seedling mix was 50% CC 'fine mix', 30% perlite and the rest: crushed limestone, some kind of crushed red rock, volcanic sand (basically crushed scoria), coarse sand, some other small rocks (Waikato gold is the sale name). We filled the pots up to maybe 5cm high, and then dropped the seeds on top in a rough grid pattern. Then using the last of the volcanic sand, coarse sand, crushed limestone - this was hand-sifted onto the tops of the pots so that a layer of ~2mm formed. Then I sprayed the soil until it was wet. I'm particularly proud of this seedling mix and pots, as I think they will completely solve the drainage problems (the old pots drained unevenly, and partially separated into a hard cake of mostly rocks, and a swampy mash at the bottom - the plants probably just grew slower than they could have, as they had to break their roots through the hard cake at the top to get anywhere) and provide the right growing environments for the Lophs to thrive. I'm just worried about light and heat, but will sort that out shortly. The last thing I did was to repot another 4 seedling containers into larger containers. I'm using ice-cream containers, with 6 finger-width holes on the bottom. So far these pots seem to drain pretty well, and I can't see any reason to not use them. I imagine that when those pots are "spent", the seedlings will be at least a finger-length in height. Many of my other seedlings are doing well too, and I'm in the process of deciding which plants are unique enough to warrant their own pot. I've picked a few so far, and I think they were good choices. I will try and take pictures soon. I'm afraid of my camera, as it's on the fritz though. Editty edit: That bridgesii seedling has like 9 basal pups now. The person I received it from had some BAP at one point, maybe some fell on the plant.

used a new tooth brush and scrubbed each cacti from head to toe. water + fert. im sure they loved it, looking sharp

Im just going to throw this in here, but i swear that you cannot smell off long life milk, you only find out after you drink it.

SOME PROBLEM SOLVERS AND ADVICE REGARDING GROWING POPPIES 　 The biggest problem people encounter trying to grow poppy begins with watering. Most people, as with most seeds plant them and then get out the trusty old watering can. This is a fail to begin with as poppy seeds need a combination of sunlight, water, with a loose growing medium and if either of these three conditions not being met re not being met or other water dispenser pushes the seed deep into the ground. Surface sowing or broadcasting is the way to go. The seeds need light, you should spray with a spray bottle, this is the most succesful method of germinating poppy seeds. Also, planting at about 5 o'clock in the evening can help. Ants absolutely love seeds, especially poppy! I have watched ants taking my seeds as I am planting! Once they come up overwatering is bad. Fast draining soil is important, giving them a decent water to encourage healthy root growth. I use numerous watering cans and spray bottles including a big two and a half litre mister that works by pumping it, building up the pressure sending a lovely mist over a fresh patch of soil or a bunch of pots. Once the seedlings germinate It is best to use a small watering can with a long thin spout allowing one to direct the water exactly where it needs to go . In this way soil is soaked round the seedling encouraging the tap root to move lower. The third watering the soil is soakedsoil is soaked companion in my system is a regular plastic watering can. In this way I conserve water as it is distributed exactly as desired without any wastage at a very low cost, I must add. Transplanting poppies has never been all that successful in my journey but I have heard of a method that sounds like it may have merit. The method that I am talking of is that of planting a bunch of seeds in a pot, container, peat pot, something that can be placed directly into the ground with minimum interference. Keep the medium moist. As poppy likes a well draining, ph. neutral soil nearing acidic there are alot of options. For seedlings soaking the medium in a combination of something like Seasol always scores me healthier looking seedlings. It is worth experimenting as there are an increasing amount of beneficial products coming out all of the time. I have a worm farm so I like to use a very light combination of diluted (very diluted, like 5 times as much as one would normally dilute it for use 10 parts water to one part worm juice so that would be 50 parts water to 1 part worm juice.) Experiment with these amounts but don't go too hard, seeds are packed with a fair amount of proteins to get them started so they don't actually require any help to sprout bar water and light so the nutrients are for the seedling. Seeds are amazing little packages of life! It never ceases to amaze me how the tiniest seeds can grow into the most beautiful, complex expressions of life. Peat pot are possible to us but I find that I nust "loosen" the peat inside or else the peat is too compact and will not let the roots pass through. Loosened, this is entirely different working well, planting numerous seeds so that the seedlings on the oustside will always protect the ones on the inside. My advice, as far as soil mix would be to use chook manure (cow manure is good also,poppies love a soil that is highin phosphorus, any type of manure is good, maybe not mushroom manure because one thing you definitely don't wantis any fungi problems. Fast draining soil is probably the most important factor. You do not want to see water sitting on top of your soil. I found a type of seeds they sell in Bunnings. If you have any soil you are not entirely happy with buy a few packs of soil conditioning seeds. They contain barley, legumes, and a few other types of plants that convert nitrogen from the air intonitrogen for the soil ! This conditions it, creating really good aeration. I am an eco-warrior so I will grow lettuce, let it grow outand then the soil is ready for a plant that needs phosphorus (such as poppy!). When the poppies have grown out their life cyclethe soil is ideal for lettuce, basil, any leaf bearing plants you can think of, virtually! MY GOLDEN RULE : Plant the seeds on top of the gound. If you have to sprinkle some soil across it then it will not harm anything but is not necessary. Poppy seeds need light to germinate. Use a mister, I use a 2 and a half litre super mister that puts out a huge thin mist. You can use a spray bottle, I like themister because I can mist over a large area. Mist the soil until seedlings appear. Once seedlings appearwater them, keeping the soil dampish but not too damp. Water, making sure that the watergoes at leastas deep as taproots and deeper to encourage the taproot to grow. Plant more than you need, that way you can thin out the bigger ones, keeping the more uniform plants.That way you end up being able to grow more. One per foor is the generlally given rule.

There are actually some pretty good youtube video's out there. Many "Chemistry 1A" vids etc. Many uni's (eg Berkeley IIRC) record their lecture series, and make it available online for free. It certainly can help having at least familiarised yourself with the content before you see it in person. The best advice I can give is to never miss a lecture. Not even once. It takes WAY longer to catch up than had you simply attended. Feel free to send me a pm with questions (or better still, just post them here so others can participate too). I majored in chemistry, and did honours and PhD in Chem (just about to submit woohoo!), and now work as a research chemist (one can never have too much chemistry in their lives lol ). So I should hopefully be able to at least steer you in the right direction, I'll do my best. It's not that scary really, we just have to find the best way to explain it based on how your particular brain is wired (visually, mathematically, spacially etc). There is no one-size-fits-all when it comes to education and learning unfortunately.

I just had a most enjoyable 30 minute discussion with a couple of JW's, complete with me pulling out the New International bible for cross reference to their ridiculous claims. Very enjoyable to see them squirm under their own though processing. The answers run dry when Psylo starts throwing mathematics around regarding population growth in their utopian post-rapture fantasy planet. Hell, one of them even slipped, and started suggesting that 'god' might start having people live on another planet. Newsflash: I am deemed as wicked. Thanks for making my day, ladies.

1. Using the word (God) openly 2. Eating an apple at Thy house 3. Making a feather while on Thy day 4. Denying that I made it. 5. Making a mousetrap on Thy day 6. Contriving of the chimes on Thy day 7. Squirting water on Thy day 8. Making pies on Sunday night 9. Swimming in a kimnel on Thy day 10. Putting a pin in John Keys hat on Thy day to pick him. 11. Carelessly hearing and committing many sermons. 12. Refusing to go to the close at my mothers command. 13. Threatning my father and mother Smith to burne them and the house over them 14. Wishing death and hoping it to some 15. Striking many 16. Having uncleane thoughts words and actions and dreamese. 17. Stealing cherry cobs from Eduard Storer 18. Denying that I did so 19. Denying a crossbow to my mother and grandmother though I knew of it 20. Setting my heart on money learning pleasure more than Thee 21. A relapse 22. A relapse 23. A breaking again of my covenant renued in the Lords Supper. 24. Punching my sister 25. Robbing my mothers box of plums and sugar 26. Calling Dorothy Rose a jade 27. Glutiny in my sickness. 28. Peevishness with my mother. 29. With my sister. 30. Falling out with the servants 31. Divers commissions of alle my duties 32. Idle discourse on Thy day and at other times 33. Not turning nearer to Thee for my affections 34. Not living according to my belief 35. Not loving Thee for Thy self. 36. Not loving Thee for Thy goodness to us 37. Not desiring Thy ordinances 38. Not long [longing] for Thee in [illegible] 39. Fearing man above Thee 40. Using unlawful means to bring us out of distresses 41. Caring for worldly things more than God 42. Not craving a blessing from God on our honest endeavors. 43. Missing chapel. 44. Beating Arthur Storer. 45. Peevishness at Master Clarks for a piece of bread and butter. 46. Striving to cheat with a brass halfe crowne. 47. Twisting a cord on Sunday morning 48. Reading the history of the Christian champions on Sunday isaac newton's confessions (age 19)

this thread is gonna be messy bluntmuffin you should try to make it obsolete. although it's reasonably rare that you will be able to pluck an E out of the air unless you develope "absolute pitch" which isn't that common, but with that externally provided E you will be crackers unless you are pretty much "tone deaf" adjustments are smoother when increasing pitch. so have each string lower than the sought after pitch, then pluck them and start tightening the string until it's just right. the different string gauges have different sound quality which makes it a bit hard but you can learn to ignore that and just focus on getting the same pitch. also once you've gone through them all once, or at least done a few of the thicker strings (which put a lot more tension on the instrument) you need to start the process again because tuning one string will put other strings out of tune.

Thanks Planthelper In 10yrs haunting this forum I cant remember seeing Caapi flower. If all goes well I should have a fair few seeds. I am a firm believer that Caapi has an adgenda to make itself unextinctable. All mankind must always have the Aya resource. My plant is very special, and we have that symbiotic relationship. So I am sure it wants to prove that theory true. Maybe offering Caapi seed will be a good way of getting people to show up at our Central Coast meets....LOL