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I would tend to think of Al qaeda as an ideology more than a functional organisation , you don't need to be a member you just have to agree with the Ideology then make it big and your in.

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Religious fanaticism. You gotta love it. Kill in the name of a non-existent human-in-the-sky, where your imaginary friend will give you lots of whores & fruit for "eternity"

All the time not realizing that Eternity is here NOW..

i say replace the "war on drugs" with a "war on god"

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having won the olympic bid it will be interesting to see how the security will be handled in light of these events.

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waterdragon:

having won the olympic bid it will be interesting to see how the security will be handled in light of these events.

Was wondering how security would be handled even before the blasts. Given that the successful Sinny Olympics bid resulted in people losing affordable housing options, general increase in cost of living and all sorts of bizaare new laws on right to march, I kinda figured the poms would cop it too, only worse, and would be more mobilised and vocal about it when it happens

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Bah! it stinks

Turn off the TV's kids - therell be nothing but shit n brainwashing for the next couple weeks

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Talked to a few Brits at work today, they all said basically everyone in London has been ready and practicing for this since, well, since the IRA :P

Most of the people seemed more phased that they missed out on work...

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Not meaning to offend anyone, but directly following the attacks Bush and Blair come out with statements like "the terrorists will not succeed" and "we will not yield to the terrorists". Excuse me for saying, but every time any terrorists successfully bomb a target they have succeeded. I am not a terrorist sympathiser, but it makes you wonder about the utter desperation of the people behind the attacks...

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This looks like another job for "Team America: World Police" this just gives bush and the rest of "team America" all the more power to go out and start another war on some other small oil rich country.

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tean america - fuck yeah!

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team america - fuck yeah!

[ 10. July 2005, 09:47: Message edited by: bluemeanie ]

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Teen America?

is that ur new fav porn link?

nude cheerleaders with M16's?

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Heres another sudden turn in the confusing Info given out.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/0...nvestigation.ap

Theres no criminal organization in the world thats in it for money that wouldn't welcome a get out of jail free card for turning up terrorist activitys that they could provide info on.

Which particularly includes smuggling.

Such announced might on the news. Get better and more depth intelligence info.

Not rocket science.

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quote:

"A slightly different picture is emerging around the timing of these bomb incidents," Deputy Assistant Commissioner Brian Paddick said at a Metropolitan Police briefing Saturday. "All three bombs on the London Underground system actually exploded within seconds of each other, at 8:50 in the morning."

See told you it was the damn yanks :P . So what does this mean? the terrorist have around a B grade high school physics as they can pull apart a battery operated clock and use it as a timer?

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The popular press is already calling for email surveillance and caching, national ID cards, and various other attacks on civil liberties. I guess what worked for Bush will also work for Blair.

I wonder when they'll build 'concentration camps' in europe like they did in Cuba? I guess Milan would be a good place for the first one....

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Italy arrests 142 in anti-terrorism sweep

The Associated Press

July 9, 2005

ROME - Police said Saturday they had arrested 142 people in a two-day anti-terrorism security sweep around Milan prompted by the bombings two days earlier in London.

Some 2,000 carabinieri fanned out across the Lombardy region, stepping up patrols around train stations, subways, commercial centers and other sensitive sites, the regional commander of the paramilitary police, Gen. Antonio Girone, said in a phone interview.

Girone said the operation was focusing on Milan because it had been the major focus of Italian investigations into Islamic terrorism and because it “could be a major risk of possible attacks.” He said the measures were designed to make people “feel calmer after the London attacks.”

Of those arrested, 84 were immigrants and authorities issued 52 expulsion orders, he said. Most of those arrested were accused on drug, petty theft or immigration-related charges, he said.

Possible target

The operation was one of the most visible signs of stepped up security measures around Italy following Thursday’s attacks in London and threats that Italy might be targeted as well for its support of the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Interior Ministry said it was stepping up police and intelligence controls around the country, and in particular around sites most at risk of terrorist attack.

British installations in Italy were the top priorities. But some 13,246 sites around the country — including U.S. and NATO bases, telecommunications centers, public utilities and the Turin 2006 Winter Olympics site — also were under special surveillance and had been since the beginning of the year, the ministry said.

The ministry also said it was looking into possible new emergency legislation to deal with the terrorist risk. It didn’t elaborate.

The new measures came after a group calling itself “The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe” said the bombings were punishment for British involvement in the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and said Italy and Denmark would be attacked for their support of the U.S.-led coalitions in both countries, too.

Berlusconi announces troop withdrawal

Premier Silvio Berlusconi said Friday that Italy would begin withdrawing 300 troops from Italy’s 3,000-strong contingent in Iraq, but denied the withdrawal was linked to any terrorist threats against Italy. He had previously said he hoped to begin withdrawing troops by September, though officials later pushed the date back to early 2006.

Berlusconi is a staunch ally of President Bush and sent about 3,000 troops to Iraq after the fall of Saddam Hussein to help rebuild the country. Italy also has about 910 troops in Afghanistan.

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AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

COMING AGAIN TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKIN DAY YEAH!

Terrorists you're game is through, cause now you've got to answer to:

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

SO LICK MY BUTT AND SUCK ON MY BALLS!

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ok,ok. it probably wasn't the french. has anyone considered how far australians are prepared to go to win the ashes? faark yeeh, mate.

[ 12. July 2005, 03:04: Message edited by: Bacchant ]

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teonanacatl:

its a fucking religous war

only superficially

really its another crusade

European military conquest for economic gain but fought under the guise of freedom or god or security

vs.

Muslim resistance and retaliation

i reckon religion is side player here to territorialism and plain pure $$$$$$$

has anywar ever been fought for any there reason?

fore example. -was WW2 started for nazi ideals or were nazi ideal rather a vehicle to mobilise the masses to support the leaderships grand plan of empire expansion?

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According to new info it was homegrown english citizens that all died in the act using military grade exposives and all the devices were made by the same person.

So according to this idea someone made all the explosives devices and then convinced four knuckleheads to blow themselves up.

Becoming more complex story by the day.

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Or maybe you just get four knuckleheads to plant the bombs and double cross them by blowing them up when they least expect it ?

I'm not sure , it seems clear that this was a sucessfull way of proving they can basically shut down London if they want , even with the G8 summit going on just up the road. This attack actually seemed to create more mahem for less fatalities. I must note however that the so called 'expert' bomb makers could have created much more damage by adding some shrapnel (even the IRA were big on the nail bomb in London) so why did they leave out such an obvious part of making a bomb ? The only reason i can come up with is they were trying to cripple the city more than its people. Maybe this is just a way of putting London on notice that they can strike , and maybe there are more bombs waiting for the right time ? The news this morning (ABC) was claiming they think a military grade explosive was used and it was probably sorced from the Baulkins. If this is the case it also shows the people behind this are conected and know how to use them .

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!!! Ok looks like Good Ole Jonhnny our Ozzy hereo :rolleyes: Has decided that After 3 yrs We need to send troops back over to Afganistan... SAS and special elite units, Mind you at the request of the American Government... I didnt hear thw whole story of why we are sending troops over AGAIN...hmmm i wonder wat they have or found over there???

The only People i feel for in the London Bomb blasts are the helpless victims and even they seem to be more then willing to sell there stories of the incident for a financial gain,

Again we are being used as Pawns in the Biggest chess board - They created the problem, eg funded terrorists - Then stage a international Incident, using ppl like puppets - Then they come in to "FIX" the problem they created, how they see fit, eg more security everywhere less and less personal freedom...

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2B---glad you mentioned the lack ov shrapnel---i'd come to a similar conclusion.

if they really wanted a high death toll, nails or ball bearings would have been used.

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