Ethos Posted January 3, 2011 So a FOAF received two Salvia Divinorum plants in rockwool cubes and has nurtured the healthier to do this. Cheers for looking guys, Peace, Ethen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted January 3, 2011 That's not Salvia divinorum... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr b.caapi Posted January 3, 2011 That's not Salvia divinorum... Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LikeAshesWeFade Posted January 3, 2011 definitely not! not with those serated leaves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ballzac Posted January 3, 2011 Looks more like S. elegens. Do the leaves have a pineapple aroma? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ethos Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) Wow, well IMO it has more of a mint/lime smell Edit; and looking at pictures of elegans, has red flowers. these are purple Edited January 3, 2011 by Ethen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 3, 2011 NOT Salvia divinorum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr b.caapi Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) NOT Salvia divinorum. yes, i think weve established that Teotz. Edited January 3, 2011 by mr b.caapi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ballzac Posted January 3, 2011 It's not Salvia divinorum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ethos Posted January 3, 2011 OK so instead of just saying... ITS NOT SALVIA DIVINORUM. Establish why you have come to the conclusion.... LikeAshesWeFade, I am a firm believer that leaf shape and variegation can be due to environmental factors. Now I'm not getting cocky saying it could be Sally D and I'm definitely not saying it can't be something else, its anyone's ball game now (and without any better pictures its harder to identify). You guys have made SWIM unsure as to what he possesses... and now he is curious to ID this plant. thanks for your help guys, justify your conclusion though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
btotl Posted January 3, 2011 I think just from visual comparison its pretty easy to tell the difference, i can't help you with what it actually is, but as stated we know its not salvia d. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeti101 Posted January 3, 2011 OK, it's not S.elegans. Sal div is not IMHO aromatic either. Square stem? Perhaps its a hybrid (but of what?). I've got a saliva in my garden that smells like pineapple sage but looks nothing like it. Most important question: Activity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ballzac Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) Sorry, was just joking in my above post. Does it have square stems? They don't look square in the pic. You said the leaves smell of mint or lime. S. divinorum has grassy/bland smelling leaves. The colour and sheen is wrong. The leaves are too dark and 'flat'. They should have a velvety sheen on them. If they aren't healthy/hydrated enough to have this sheen they would be drooping or yellowing. The leaves are narrower and more serated than S. divinorum. S. divinorum tends to branch out. Unless your FOAF has been trimming off any branches to keep one main shoot, this plant does not have that habit. It's hard to see the flowers in the pics. They look close, but perhaps not quite right. Would like to see better photos. Edited January 3, 2011 by ballzac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted January 3, 2011 It's hard to tell from those pics, but does it have a square stem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted January 4, 2011 the smell of dried divinorum herb is very unique aswell, and could be used as a tool for indentification. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ethos Posted January 4, 2011 it does have a square stem, and seems to shoot new growth nodes from opposing sides (somewhat like a spiral staircase) here is a diagram I did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ballzac Posted January 4, 2011 Is it as square as the stems in Btotl's pic? The midrib and veins in the leaves are also too small and not white enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) There are many square stemmed Salvia species. Could be a hybrid I suppose, but it look nothing like S. divinorum should. What ballzac said, plus the deep serrations and the dark green colouration all indicate it's something different. Edited January 4, 2011 by tripsis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ballzac Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) Could even be a different genus, like Ocimum or something. Edited January 4, 2011 by ballzac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) I think it might be 'Indigo Spires' it is said to be a hybrid cross between S. longispicata and S. farinacea. have a look here >> https://finegardening.com/plantguide/salvia-indigo-spires-sage.aspx Edited January 4, 2011 by mac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) Could be, mac, it looks quite similar. So the question is, which mofo gave you this plant as Salvia divinorum? Edited January 4, 2011 by tripsis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac Posted January 4, 2011 Could be, mac, it looks quite similar. yes once its in full bloom you will be able to narrow the list down by colour size etc.. i have a salvia from Big W tagged only as perennial sage that looks closely related purple/white with a strong mint smelling & large blooms Could even be a different genus, like Ocimum or something. hey ballzac, is that pic of Ocimum ? looks almost identical to my pink coccinea (Coral Nymph)will have to read up on Ocimum ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD. Posted January 4, 2011 So the question is, which mofo gave you this plant as Salvia divinorum Indeed!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ballzac Posted January 4, 2011 So the question is, which mofo gave you this plant as Salvia divinorum? Perhaps more importantly, why? S. divinorum is apparantly very easy to propagate, and I can't see that the legality would be any different if the plant was claimed to be S. divinorum. Honest mistake or miscommunication seems like the most likely explanation. Just don't see it as a very effective way of ripping someone off, lol. hey ballzac, is that pic of Ocimum ? looks almost identical to my pink coccinea (Coral Nymph)will have to read up on Ocimum ) Yeah, O. sanctum syn. tenuiflorum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
