The Dude

I forget where I found this definition (McKenna maybe?), that a drug is an unchecked habit that one unconsciously and compulsively indulges in. For every activity and experience has a greater or lesser effect on ones own brain chemistry. Brain chemistry affects experience, experience affects brain chemistry. TV is a drug, habitually smoking cannabis is a drug, planning and preparing to take a trip to the carnival with all your own rituals is a special occasion and not exactly a habitual action, the quality of mystery is by definition beyond the experience of your every day habits. A drug is autopilot; a sacrament is planned intention. Unless you have a dmt habit or something, a dmt junkie is hard to imagine though. This is getting really off-topic. Santiago should start a new topic on why druggies have got it all wrong, that their experiences are hallucinatory and of no meaningful value or healing potential, even though that's the general consensus if santiago feels it necessary to discuss this perspective...

[edit] not really sure if my rant made sense, I'm no economist.

Well then it would have been a direct attack instead of a veiled reference to somebody -where everyone knows who you're talking about- so that you could have that insider joke (we all know who we're talking about right guys? ) style of snobby derision and project an attitude of us versus the troll, cuz group mentality always = win. Now that you got called up on it you had to name names and now it's just lame name calling again.

I think that the whole contention is that the political/social/economic response is as much going to determine the science, or how the questions are framed that get the best paid for scientific answers, as much as any ideal of scientific objectivity, for these are all pointed studies designed to find what the funding said it would. Not to dismiss all the science off hand like that, but you can't ignore this bias. Furthermore the political/social/economic response is the very reason for this science gaining such popularity in recent times, saving the world wasn't such a big issue when we had to focus on other "enemies" to give up our money and freedom. If me discussing how the incredibly-fucking-obvious-and-pathetic-attempt-at-a-money-grab-that-is-this-proposed-carbon-tax is completely useless at solving the issues that this new popular politicised science warns of- is out of place here then that's fair enough, but then so is banging on about climate change and telling us a carbon tax is the only solution! ...I'd see a cardiologist for a diagnosis and a cardiac surgeon if need be, I would invest my money into my survival with trust in both professions. Now if I instead opted for giving my money to Benny Hinn and relied on faith to save the day, that would be a better metaphor to describe the efficacy of giving up more money to known liars and thieves on a vague promise that god willing you might be saved. The only thing more economic burdens are trying to save is this goliath of a system, we will get chewed up and spat out in the process of trying to save it, our best intentions will pave the road straight to hell. Every time your survival is called into question by politicians and the mass media it is a form of coercion. It is a death threat or "an offer you can't refuse" where you must sign the contract or have your brains splattered on it. Some countries are made examples of. ...Somebody debunk HAARP for me so I can dismiss all this crazy weather as the result of merely human ignorance instead of malicious intent and sleep easy at night knowing we're just more stupid than we are capable of evil... although I don't know which is scarier.

...so the downfalls of an anarchic (or agorist) society is that we cannot trust ourselves? Which means that endless regulations by governments (who we also can't trust) is the only thing we can trust to save us from ourselves. I'm sure that when we were much less consciously evolved back in the day we didn't have so much manipulation in tribal societies, leaching off people didn't get you nowhere, it would have you excommunicated. Sure there would be a chief who would have a useful role and more power, no money lent at interest though... Now we take the leaches word that if it weren't for them there would be rampant chaos. If it weren't for them we wouldn't all be in a state of artificial scarcity and disempowerment and we might have some self-determination and not fall into a state of panicked fear and violence as a survival trip. Our only survival option is to throw off the shackles collectively and work as a community, we have global communication now so we can organise this! We only need them now because of them selling us the idea we needed them before. We only need them now because we needed them then, it's a catch22. Violence creates fear, fear creates control, control = violence. Violent weather being useful for these ends as well. In this system, take back control and you reduce violence. There can be taxes, within a voluntary cooperation system that are audited by the public and spent where they are meant to be. A road tax would be spent on fixing roads, simple, if there is no need for the extra revenue in a certain area the tax is eliminated. Total transparency eliminates corrupt individuals. I don't like that we don't know where our tax money goes now, let alone any new scheme they've got to invest our money in projects we are all oblivious of. I mean why can no official tell us of the uses of HAARP even though it is on the record as a weather manipulation tool, why do all of our representatives laugh at our genuine concern over chemtrails, calling us idiots that cannot recognise a contrail. Why do we still trust in their overbearingly restrictive and suffocating form of compassion instead of our own common unity as brothers and sisters with the divine right to live freely? You cannot fix a sinking ship with band-aid solutions, nay their solutions put more holes in the ship, every part of this system is designed to slowly drown us, social darwinists would call this survival of the fittest; we believed in their bullshit and must be too unevolved to have self determination. Trillionaires of the world Italics mine. For this reason no solution brought to us under this system could be beneficial to our interests, everything the system does is to gain more control, quite simple really. Even though we've bought into the BS long ago it doesn't mean we cannot just drop it all right now! It is the only solution, sure we've got 7billion people worth of investment into the system and the momentum that goes with it, the titanic had a lot of momentum crashing into an iceberg. It's a good idea to slow the fuck down, and that doesn't mean abandoning money and its' ability to mobilise the masses towards collective action, for we all need our daily bread. That doesn't mean abandoning science and technology and the advice of experts and the benefits they bring, it just means ridding ourselves of the virus that's infected each of these programs. A co2 tax will not motivate green technology, that requires investment in radically changing industry and infrastructure; it's cheaper to pass the costs, it will just make us all poorer. The motivation cannot be greed for it is that minority of psychopathic elites who are masters at thinking this way that have their blinkers on to any novel idea that could save us, if it's not about control they just cannot conceptualise it. It must be us that saves the day, we have the power of numbers to get things done other than simply giving up more of our money/freedom/self-determination. So you have little time for his type yet you must stick it to him at every opportunity? It seems you're acting compulsively against him because he's pressed some of your buttons. I maintain that labels and ad-hominems are not real arguments and find some of WD's "points" a bit weak for that reason, yet if all you're keen on doing is provoking a reaction from him it is little wonder he calls you names. The idea is that my veggies are the communities veggies and their veggies are mine, maybe not in a directly shared ownership communist way, there may as well be trade. The idea though is that we all start producing so that we don't need to steal off each other when the shiteth hiteth the faneth, the idea is to get everyone out of the room first, where right now we are utterly dependent on remaining here. I agree that the only way to make it out of this desperate situation is together with global cooperation, I disagree that we're in a democracy and I think we're right on the edge of a precipice now where many would like us to move forward together like the lemmings they see us as. I guess ideals like hope and change are what got Obama elected, we need action not ideals so I'll try not to be so idealistic. Yes we are all different, yet I still trust in our common unity. Everyone has the potential for peace and unity (as well as violence and seperation), regardless of how highly socially evolved they are, it is a choice. Who do you trust? "Such oppressive security measures are only necessary when wealth and power are distributed so unfairly that human beings cannot coexist in peace." "Left to itself a state of disorder and inequity returns to equilibrium; our job is to perpetuate this one indefinitely" "in suspicion we trust" Again the problems of not trusting others to act fairly evapourate in a system where our lives aren't fixated around the almighty dollar and self serving and are instead about serving the community born out of love for our fellowship as humans rather than our fear of our own shadows. So what if Australia becomes Anarchist (wow, what a dream) that won't make global cooperation any harder, the last summit didn't exactly reach a consensus. Voluntary cooperation is the only way to cooperate because nobody can force the others to play fair, government regulations like I've laboured on and on about only further the projection of mistrust. Free-Media, Free-Market, Free-Education, Free-Prophylactics and all our problems start to fix themselves without any need for "help" from the vampires. Peace y'all, I think you're all wrong, but that's all right!

Project Bluebeam? This is pretty far out stuff, makes me think that September 11 might've been a holographic projection...

Agree with synchro, too commonplace a death to warrant a Darwin award and apart from that have some respect eh! Teljkon, yes outlandish craziness is a profitable pastime because most of us are amazingly boring and appreciate the entertainment, and as much as we paid for his lifestyle through the movies being popular his life was his own and all of his actions were his choices (like everyone), it's a bit much to lay his fate on the collective hands of those that made him rich for his spirit was his own, it's not a simple cause and effect thing like that. With or without fame and success he was a jackass! - and I mean that with respect! It does suck he killed someone else though.

Alex Jones does a great job of "taking a turd in the punchbowl" as he so eloquently put it himself regarding another prominent conspiracy nutter. The annoying thing is that some of the truth he says gets discredited by his outright batshit crazy rants. Speaking of drugs I wonder what his handlers feed him. He gets them reptile eyes sometimes Talks a bit about exposing the occult and secret societies yet I'm sure he's part of the club, a controlled opposition hero for the public, outright dis-info tool. There's some discussion online about Alex Jones himself planting a lot of subconscious symbols and ideas ala the illuminati methods. I like his logic that if he hasn't had it and he doesn't get what it's about and it might potentially open up other worlds it must be bad, I suppose his followers appreciate his willful ignorance and fear mongering on the issue. BTW the government handed us all the ingredients for dmt supposedly. This whole rant proves that he's all about ignorance and fear and therefore part of the plots he protests against. Lets quote the bible as an authority on liberty and free-thinking!

We don't really live in a democracy, our interests are never represented; merely exploited during voting time. I also believe we should all take "some type of unified approach to utilizing the use of the planets resources" I just don't feel I can really leave it to the "experts" to figure out how, ecologists perhaps, not economists and most definitely not politicians. We need to be "Pissing off and doing [our] own thing" together without the middle men giving us their orders from our economic masters, our unseen yet verily believed in gods; worshiped with every transaction. Ideally I imagine the solution is anarchy with a heavy focus on sustainability, so true cost economics can have a role, IF there is a free market not manipulated by an interest based currency. This simple mathematical scam we all seem to avoid really does seem to fuck everyones shit up and twist their priorities, every person fighting for survival within this sinking ship of a system is destined failure with any kind of economic "solution" given to us by these parasitic politicians. Poly-ticks is the new spelling from now on. The system is so insidious that we would rather protect that before our own welfare and survival (based on the belief that forced regulation is the only way to have cooperation), no fucking way do I trust another tax, this is not about avoiding responsibility, I think the only way to take responsibility is anarchy, governments have long passed their used by date, we should've woken up by now! I am optimistic that we can somehow figure out an autonomy from the parasites with a fair economy and common sense common law, not some pirates that have taken the system hostage (with our cooperation mind you, we're still relying on our nanny state big brother betters to solve all our problems), which will avoid all the cluster fuck involved with mobilising towards something we can all agree on; the fact we gotta start acting in harmony with nature. ...With all the right experts on board, not motivated by academic circle jerks and greed, that's the idea with anarchy is that there is transparency and corruption is rooted out. It's an ideal to be able to trust in common unity (community) without needing evermore regulations that strangle all possibility of the miraculous spontaneous evolution we all need, no way will the current system provide this ideal of personal responsibility and collective cooperation when everybody is so disillusioned by it! Even though we know the system is destined (designed even!) to fail, it seems safe and cozy here in prison, better than trusting in my community who've also been bought up in a system that teaches them to be as self serving and mistrusting of each other as I. There's a massive battle ahead of us to change the system if we still think within its rules, like only its rules apply. @Hutch whether or not you believe in AGW (I too am undecided, I mean volcanoes right?...) we have obviously long ago avoided our responsibility to live in harmony with nature, blame our parasitic economic memes or general ignorance, we should at least agree that we could do all we can to try to re-balance the natural harmony, global warming or not our environment is fucked. I know you know this, I'm just trying to find some common ground in this unnecessary conflict among people who all want to save the world - apparently, I mean why else would we all get so worked up? ...Fuck this tax we need anarchy and we just need to work together, simple as that, an egalitarian system will get all the right "experts" on board. Currency in its current form is an evil vampiric entity that infects all with its bite, we all need more blood and are delusioned by the thirst, all in an insidiously subtle way we protect the sanctity of the system, and its economic "solutions" handed to us by our divine rulers over any kind of autonomy. Economic self interest is not going to be the solution to economic self interest, our whole motivation and priorities are upside down. Taxes and inflation have us dancing for our money when our money should be dancing for us. Currency is the tool of a free society, human beings are the tools of currency in this one. Something to consider to decrease our carbon footprint and disconnect ourselves from dependence on these really ineffective resources like fossil fuels is perhaps... *ahem* HEMP! biofuels plus about anything else you could need, oh yeah and massive plantations that grow easy as all fuck might be an idea to absorb all of that nasty co2. ... A quick list of science and technology that isn't nice and we in a "democracy" accept: *Food additives such as aspartame plus I guess the technology of making really non-nutritious mass produced food with everything containing soy or corn starch! *Depleted Uranium and guided missiles, the ever lurking threat of nuclear war. War in general is a massive technological feat! *Mandatory fluoridation of our water supply for our dental safety. *Mining and industry and marketing selling us pretty useless things in exchange for our everlasting soul as we give up all our free will - There is a science to mind control or psyops. *The very likely(imho) but easily dismissed threat of chemical warfare en masse with chemtrails and the weather manipulation possibilities of the technology. A new type of "silent weapon" that can nonetheless hold entire countries at ransom (climate false flag?), and help people make a killing -Read conspiracies on foreknowledge and preparation for Haiti "charity" fund raiser and HAARP instrument data being deleted for the hours of the disaster/attack. Political blackmail with Russia, pretty much every environmental anomaly nowadays has a HAARP conspiracy attached which may seem a bit convenient for an "AGW denier" to readily accept as a reason yet the money trail also suggests foreknowledge of a lot of these disasters ... There've been a few radar anomalies with the Australian BOM, list goes on. I'd say our co2 emissions need to go hand in hand with cuts in this spraying and disclosure on the benefits and dangers of weather manipulation and what in the hell is going on!

I thought one must be a citizen of the USA to commit treason against it? That's the traditional definition of treason, to betray your country, then again I guess we're all living in America nowadays, world police that they are.

Are you saying that the government are a bunch of hypocrites?

...Really? So much science and technology is used for malicious purposes all the time! Science is twisted for desired results and funding plays a key part. I guess we'll just have to wait until somebody proves H.A.A.R.P technology has been misapplied for ill gotten gain. What does the scientific consensus say on the possibility of weather manipulation? We obviously gotta stop polluting this much and live more eco-friendly, fuck a carbon tax off for a joke though! As far as economic concerns dictate our personal survival in the system, this carbon tax may as well be a death threat for some. Maybe a bit dramatic but a great depression scenario doesn't sound fun. So how's everyones veggie patch, solar panels and wind turbines going? Don't forget a rainwater tank with a nice filter to avoid them nasty heavy metal in our air... chemtrails, another imaginary conspiracy, don't worry about it, I'm sure we'll be compensated later.

So all the evidence is in? Is being skeptical of the evidence (or an interpretation of it) the same as out-right denial of it? Seeing as these topics are only understood by learned scientists, whether or not something is "supported by evidence" to us laymen is dependent on how well these authorities on these issue present their claims to the general public (no attempt to educate so far, only pump fear). The science of climate change may be pretty straight forward and logical, too bad it had to get involved with the science of politics and economics which is purposefully obscure and convoluted, how can you trust another tax grab? I would say that given the history of our owners manipulating and exploiting their livestock, an author proposing this is just another scam, coupled with the total support from the establishment that knows only how to lie, cheat and steal, would connect enough dots together for the image of a conspiracy to be readily seen before any semblance of an altruistic desire of governments to save the world. So any contentious issue is squashed by a simple labeling of "denier" (idiot) onto anyone who not necessarily disagrees, but isn't totally convinced in the proposed idea. By using the word it is suggesting that the proposition is 100% verified and that any counter-claim is born of willful ignorance "because it would undermine his preconceived notions" - rather than genuine skepticism, it is an unfair projection that is a safety mechanism for the sanctity of a given idea, lest it be questioned. Truth does not fear questioning, it just labels it denial. If a person is unable or unwilling to understand the science, be more convincing instead of insulting, ad-hominems are not convincing arguments for those of us watching the debate on the side-lines. -Having said that, I know we have a pretty delicate balance going on here and far be it from me to say our actions are environmentally insignificant, I just hope that politics and economics can fuck off for a while so we actually can save the day. There can be no economic solution - the solution is to stop thinking economically. On a side note, a simple animation of the expanding earth theory seems to be more logical than the current model. Notice the word 'model'. Is my entertainment of the expanding earth theory a denial of the entire study of geology? What a crock!

He didn't play any characters, he just played himself in jackass style situations. His personality and humour did shine through, none of us knew him personally that does not mean he did not affect us personally, like the loss of any one you like, whether you know them or not. I don't think everyone is overstating the significance of his death, so there is no need to downplay it. I could not give a crap about most celebrity news but having watched jackass, ryan dunn was a champ, it is sad that he killed himself and his friend by doing something stupid, such is life.

You've been very helpful Mutant with regard to the Amanita Muscaria mushroom. From previous posts it seems you have trouble getting your head around the tryptamine space, you mentioned psilocybes, hence my suggestion that you take more. ...well that is if you only took 1.6 grams, you haven't answered my question yet. ...Also, you've already bothered to reply with your non-reply. I know this is off topic, I just thought if we're all trying to help each other here, I thought I'd throw that out there. If you grind the caps into powder you probably already have a homogeneous mix, it just means to mix it all up so that potency differences in individual mushrooms aren't an issue, so that each dose is roughly the same potency.

Yeti?

lol, after a doof that quality of sound lasts for a while!

Unless there are another species of mushroom that grow in abundance and look identical to the amanita muscaria I'm pretty sure it was the right mushroom. I've found a few mushrooms that have a more orange cap, but that seems to be due to drying out. I remember some website selling dried amanita skins, I guess I got the idea from there, although I had researched them before the idea that one must use the skins persisted in my mind. It was actually quite an effort to get just the skins and I'd invariably get some flesh attatched (which you say is the good part right? ...the flesh just under the skin?) I think I hadn't dried them enough, I think that's the reason for the nausea. They were most definitely active I just couldn't focus on that due to the nausea. 1.6grams or 16 grams!?! If the former, here's an idea: try a bit more than 1.6g of woodlovers and you might be more accepting of the idea of a spiritual realm. ...just an idea, I don't need to hear how wrong or off-topic I am. Peace!

I've heard that story too! I can't remember where. Might've been a Lloyd Pye talk on human origins or this book by Max Egan which is full of historical oddities.

Sure, all the time on certain substances with eyes closed especially. I remember being on mushrooms and listening to two radio hosts talking, I would see their mouth cavity filling with what looked like smoke or these refracting waveforms and their modulation through the mouth and lips to create the sound, from there I started to even make out the rest of their faces. I wasn't sure how "real" my impression was but it was definitely pretty cool!

Voluntary cooperation.

It's actually a really nice mural. So how many hundreds of thousands of regular innocent civilians have our wars of terror de-populated so far? Population growth = economic growth, built to collapse on itself with a controlled demolition at a specific interval further entrancing the masses(echoes of another conspiracy), it's not about making money, it's about beating you into submission, it's about you giving up your will, this is a war for your soul. A good de-population every now and then reminds people of the ways of the world and how it's run, the history of the world, the cycle we've been stuck on for around forever now! Remember to get down on your knees when you pray to god.

Apparently 500,000,000 is the sweet spot! re: Eugenics and it's obvious non existence as a global conspiracy because of the ramping global population... It's an idea that maybe a growing global population coupled with a food and energy crisis could put all the hard work of murderous violence back into the terrified peasants hands. ...Not to mention "natural disasters" or weather manipulation thinning out numbers too. I love how skeptical think-in-the-box rationalists can laugh off these claims and build a cozy bubble of self assurance with their friends supporting their willful ignorance by laughing with them; their laughter their protection from "nutty" ideas. I mean I'm laughing at the fact I look like such a fool by people unwilling to look at the world another way. The world is not purely logical, there be ghouls out there and they need something to feed on, they don't care about money. ^^^Better not take these ideas I present, (or me as a person) too seriously. There is no such thing as a death cult Tool used this as a sample in the hidden track(#13) on their lateralus album, which is Enochain for "voice of god". Pretty interesting if you ask me.

Thing is, I'm usually quite enthralled by an article or youtube video I'm watching and I can't respond immediately so by the time I get back to you you're already gone, that's usually the way it happens, whereas I can have a two hour conversation of two or three sentences an hour with other idle people. If having a private conversation logged is an issue, remember you can always open a private window. Pssst... I never trusted distracted either...