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It's also frustrating for someone who pays on time to not receive the goods on time as expected. I think communication goes a long way to ease these matters.

I think they are just dealing with some stuff, not trying to rip anyone off.

By the growing guide, you mean the one under the pseudonym "Oss and Oeric"?

Me too man, and I like that we can all state our opinions without resorting to trash talk that I see happen all too often. After all, opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one, but there's no need to parade them at every opportunity!

I think what I am trying to say is that economics is to blame. It's hyper hypocrisy for us to be burning poppy fields in Afghanistan because "drugs are bad, mmkay", while at the same time we incentivise and protect poppy growing on a far greater scale in our own backyard. Remember, heroin was once marketed as a safe non-addictive alternative to morphine. Clearly the pharma companies and the doctors in their pocket can't be trusted, and knowing this, would you willingly support them by providing the resource to continue business as usual?

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make by distinguishing between sale and gift, and I'm not so sure that a bad trip is on par with death by accidental overdose. Either way, say you died during that trip. Would you say that whoever supplied them played a part, no matter how small? Of course they did. Was it intentional? Of course not. I'm not taking personal responsibility out of the matter at all. The decision to eat them was yours after all. But...would you have died in this situation had someone not given/sold them to you? Therefore they played a role in your death. "Personal accountability appears to have disappeared In this increasingly fucked up world" Cuts both ways. Yes, there have been too many points of failure along this entire chain of responsibility, and I wasn't trying to say that the growers are entirely the cause of the problem. As I said already, I know economics dictates that if the Tassie growers didn't grow them, someone else would. It's the law of supply and demand writ large. Does this make my statement applicable to hop growers and sugarcane farmers? Hmm, if we take the logic to it's conclusion, then I suppose, maybe yes, to some degree. I guess it's probbaly a much longer trajectory though to die from diabetes than from a fentanyl overdose, so it's harder to see the dotted lines joining the cause and effect. But I would still say the lines are there.

In the industry I work in there's a thing called "chain of responsibility". Every link in the chain is accountable. I get that everyone has to take personal responsibility and I also hate that our goobermint has come in over the top and banned otc codeine etc. But to say that the growers are completely blameless, when they know they are growing varieties that are really only useful for producing thebaine, is like coal miners arguing that they only dig up the coal, and aren't responsible for any part in man made climate change. I know it's how economics works. "If I don't grow it, someone else will anyway because there's money to be made". What to do, what to do?

Well, I'd be extremely careful not to accidentally ingest via skin contact that's for sure.

Bless the curly locks fool.

He's a good salesman

You should have hit up @Gimli A week ago

But I guess that's economics hey?

I've reflected on this, and I don't think the growers can absolve themselves completely of all responsibility. It's a little too convenient to just say "oh, we only grow the poppies that are really only useful for producing the key ingredients fuelling the opioid crisis, what happens to them after we sold them is none of our concern". I'm sure that Tasmanian Alkaloids were all too happy to continue profiting as long as nobody pointed a finger of blame in their direction.

Sadly, history shows that the rich always get away with it because they are rich.

The words deliriant and non-toxic are not often found together in the same sentence!

The first pic looks like a different plant to the second pic, are they the same? If I look at pic 1, I'd say cuzcoensis. Cuzcoensis has swollen bases of the main central spines usually.

Insane IB. So much work involved in there I can't imagine.

Apart from veges, I'm doing bulk Acacia. Acuminata, burkittii, courtii. Also going heavy on ornamentals. Sowed a lot of lupins, asters, sunflowers, zinnias, echinacea, catnip, poppies etc. What I'm NOT sowing: any more trichos! At least for a while!

Chuck it in the compost

Ok, that's probably a decent amount then. I dunno, maybe wait until the wind is blowing away from the sheep? I still don't think it would be a problem, but I'd hate to give you bad advice.

How much brug cuttings are you talking about here? I wouldn't think it would be a problem unless there's a very large amount.

Or at least anyone with a decent amount of knowledge about the creation myths, Adam and Eve myths etc? I was raised as a Catholic and I need to work on eliminating a lot of extremely deep seated programming from my childhood. I had a few interesting "revelations" and there was a lot of info downloaded regarding the Genesis myths, garden of Eden stories, the "fall" and the nature of the demiurge. I'd love to chat about some of this with someone sometime. Still really trying to form a reasonably coherent line of thought about all of this. But I feel I'm getting closer to finding the root program that causes a lot of my dysfunctional behaviour.

Ive been reading a lot about the cannabis cancer treatment protocols lately. Wouldnt it be great if more research was allowed.

I like your rants sagi.

I'm interested in your thoughts on this. Not looking for a discussion on whether or not eating meat at all is ethical, rather, if you do eat meat, where would you draw the line, and why. Livestock for consumption are generally cattle, pigs, sheep, chickens etc. Whenever we hear about eating animals like horse, we seem to have a reaction "this is taboo". Why? How did we decide that eating one animal is ok, but another is not ok? Is it because one tastes better? Or just that certain animals have been considered as "allies" - eg domesticated dogs, horses we ride etc. Second question: is is actually more ethical to eat a cow than a chicken? My logic here is that one cow might be able to feed, let's say 100 people, whereas a chicken might only feed 4. Therefore, you'd have to kill 25 chickens to feed the same number of people as one cow. Is a life of a chicken equivalent to a cow? I mostly eat vegetarian anyway, but I don't have a problem with eating meat per se. Just pondering...