Immediate ban on synthetic cannabis

[rahli]

South Australia has followed Western Australia in banning synthetic marijuana.

The drug is currently sold under different names and mimics the effects of cannabis.

The ban came into effect this afternoon and the state's Attorney-General, John Rau, says penalties of up to $10,000 will apply to people found guilty of selling the drug.

"There has been some discussion going on within government about some of the synthetic cannabis products that have been made available, in particular the product called 'kronic'," he said.

"The product is an untested chemical. That means people using the chemical have no real understanding, and nor do most experts have any idea about what these chemicals are doing to people's bodies."

Premier Mike Rann had earlier suggested legislation would be introduced to ban the drug but now says the Government will regulate against it.

"The great thing about being able to do it this afternoon, if we were saying it's going to be banned from a month's time then there'd be people going out there wanting to buy it up," he said.

"What we didn't want to see is a whole lot of people rushing out over the next couple of weeks while we got legislation through stocking up and driving on our roads."

Opposition spokesman Stephen Wade says the ban could go further.

"We want to make sure the whole production process in relation to synthetic cannabis is made illegal," he said.

The president of the South Australian branch of the Australian Medical Association, Peter Sharley, supports the ban.

He says the drug has dangerous side effects.

"Particularly side effects of restlessness and paranoia and agitation," he said.

Dr Sharley says there should be a nation-wide ban on the drug.

Western Australia was the first state in the country to make the drug illegal, with a ban coming into effect earlier today.

Link

[qualia]

He says the drug has dangerous side effects.

"...restlessness..."

watch out, don't want anyone becoming fidgety now...

[rahli]

Seems like they have only regulated the sale as it must have been an easier quicker option to put in place as opposed to drug legislation. There is no mention on possession so it is probably still ok to buy online. I guess they are just waiting for the federal government to fully legislate in the not too distant future and they will easily fall under that.

[random]

"What we didn't want to see is a

whole lot of people rushing out

over the next couple of weeks

while we got legislation through

stocking up and driving on our

roads."

bahahaha. Like that's going to make a difference.

[Slybacon]

This just In.....

" Methamphetamine sales skyrocket, the recent ban on synthetic cannabis has lead strung out teenagers in race to high . It seems for those addicted that the withdrawals were too much to handle and the only replacement in abundance was Methamphetamine. After the shortage on x hit an all time high users thought they'd struck luck when they stumbled across local porn shops selling legal weed. All good things had to come to an end, and meth dealers are flocking to WA to take advantage of the situation. We have reports coming in from all over of meth labs cooking 24/7 just to keep up. "

[rahli]

CLOSING DOWN STATEMENT

Dear Kronic Customer,

It is with great regret, that BillyBong has decided to close it's doors. In order to clear our last remaing stock before the end of this financial year WE ARE HAVING A CLOSING DOWN SALE!!!

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Why are we closing down?

Due to the extreamly high demand for our product, quite simply, we are struggling to keep up. As well as this, our Nanny Government, who would much prefer to take away our freedom of choice than to let us use our law abiding, tax paying, and responsible minds to make our own decisions, continues to impose restrictions based on no fact what so ever. The only FACT regarding Kronic, is that NEVER in 7 YEARS has a SINGLE PERSON, been HARMED, or NEGATIVELY AFFECTED in regard to their health, from using a Kronic Product. Our Products are safe and have always been that way.

TO THOSE MAKING THESE DECISIONS, SHOW SOME RESPECT TO THE CITIZENS YOU REPRESENT AND UNDERSTAND PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES.

Yes, it is true that there have been substantial delays in recieving our products...for this we apologise! We have done our absolute best, and will continue to do so untill every order has been shipped.

If you take advantage of these great specials, please expect delays of upto 3-5 days (from payment recieved) to recieve your order, but rest assured, YOU WILL 100% RECIEVE YOUR ORDER...We have plenty of stock left to go round.

Please Note - Kronic Currently Remains Legal in ALL STATES except for Western Australia, & South Australia. This will remain this way for at least 1 Month.

To end, we would like to thank you all for the support and appreciation you have show our company over the last 18 Months, we only wish that we could continue for a longer time.

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Kind Regards,

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BillyBong Closing Down Statement

[13thdimensionconnection]

This just In.....

" Methamphetamine sales skyrocket, the recent ban on synthetic cannabis has lead strung out teenagers in race to high . It seems for those addicted that the withdrawals were too much to handle and the only replacement in abundance was Methamphetamine. After the shortage on x hit an all time high users thought they'd struck luck when they stumbled across local porn shops selling legal weed. All good things had to come to an end, and meth dealers are flocking to WA to take advantage of the situation. We have reports coming in from all over of meth labs cooking 24/7 just to keep up. "

 

What the hell? Link please, that is the most hilarious statement I have ever heard regarding kronic.

[Torsten]

"Please Note - Kronic Currently Remains Legal in ALL STATES except for Western Australia, & South Australia. This will remain this way for at least 1 Month."

That's an ignorant and deceptive statement. Any state could make an order effective immediately - the attourney generals have that power. most have emergency scheduling provisions too.

Looks like billybong was just a flash in the pan kronic distributor. Pity - they ruined it for everyone.

[Quill]

I didn't want to buy it before, but now they've taken my choice I feel robbed.

[Torsten]

Daniel is selling his stash of JWH 018, so if anyone wants to stock up:

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=28289

[Slybacon]

What the hell? Link please, that is the most hilarious statement I have ever heard regarding kronic.

 

JK

[chnt]

restlessness and paranoia and agitation, fear them.

[Mycot]

" Methamphetamine sales skyrocket, the recent ban on synthetic cannabis has lead strung out teenagers in race to high . It seems for those addicted that the withdrawals were too much to handle and the only replacement in abundance was Methamphetamine. After the shortage on x hit an all time high users thought they'd struck luck when they stumbled across local porn shops selling legal weed. All good things had to come to an end, and meth dealers are flocking to WA to take advantage of the situation. We have reports coming in from all over of meth labs cooking 24/7 just to keep up. "

 

Not surprised by the increase in meth demand. In fact it could have been predicted as I did as soon as I heard of the ban.

Not because of addiction or withdrawals however which is a big furby. The only withdrawal involved is the withdrawal of choices.

Similar thing happened in Byron which I also predicted way in advance. When they cracked down on pot hard there was an explosion of heroin use in the town.

These drug legislators never seem to get it through their thick skulls that their misguided efforts can only backfire and make situations worse. Or maybe they do realise but don't care as long as they make some show of appearances.

Edited June 18, 2011 by Mycot

[Psylo]

um guys, I believe Slybacon's post is a parody of a news report, not an actual media release

[Torsten]

oh psylo, I was hoping for it to go viral before anyone realises. you know, like the scheduling of aloe vera, etc

[applesnail]

oh damn i guess the pot smokers are gonna have to continue to support those corrupt shiney honest face value nice thread wearing folks in positions of power & trust that already have them secret squirrel sophisticated elaborate approved hydrolaboratory set ups that already flood the black market and constantly bust the competition!

oh its for the best to ban crazy substances like these that only bring on premature onset of psychosis/schizophrenia & diarrhoea dementia that makes one have the nil ability to think for themselves and see the truth.

Edited June 18, 2011 by applesnail

[applesnail]

This just In.....

" Methamphetamine sales skyrocket, the recent ban on synthetic cannabis has lead strung out teenagers in race to high . It seems for those addicted that the withdrawals were too much to handle and the only replacement in abundance was Methamphetamine. After the shortage on x hit an all time high users thought they'd struck luck when they stumbled across local porn shops selling legal weed. All good things had to come to an end, and meth dealers are flocking to WA to take advantage of the situation. We have reports coming in from all over of meth labs cooking 24/7 just to keep up. "

 

apparently they are just shooting up plain old iodine tincture now and its great to find a vein as it really brings the colour out, as everything else is scheduled and impossible to obtain apparently its great for Iodine deficiency deformities also!

please do not do this it is not factual!

Edited June 18, 2011 by applesnail

[mescalito]

I didn't want to buy it before, but now they've taken my choice I feel robbed.

 

Not yet you still have time from the supplier or T.

One thing not mentioned is that they are closing up sales before the 30th...this was in the 2nd circular as it will be illegal.

No doubt it will then be illegal to possess pretty much straight away according to Torstens offer thread HERE .

Quote:Torsten

"That's an ignorant and deceptive statement. Any state could make an order effective immediately - the attorney generals have that power. most have emergency scheduling provisions too."

As said above..or am I reading it wrong?

That must be the 5000th time you've said "Ignorance" this year in an opening statement...anyway would this not make possession illegal?

Or would there be a short grace period to "Dispose" of the banned substance in a hurry?

Daniel is selling his stash of JWH 018, so if anyone wants to stock up:

http://www.shaman-au...showtopic=28289

 

In case you missed Torstens Sellout ^^^^^^^^

Not only that but it's pure and offered out of kindness and a duty of care to the community

So....we pay you to get you out of the shit,then you wash your hands????...good on ya sport.

BTW I just flicked over to the JWH thread...man I am NOT "picking on this stuff".. nor on pot...I merely like to know more about safety and laws.

Real Cannabis Vs Man-made Synthetics are a whole different game...ask a Cancer Patient,I'm not condoning nor trying to ban this stuff.It's how you say "The Nanny State",which I for the record OPPOSE.

STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!..YOU are deceiving the reader by diversion again....as for the GABA statement,dude, papers and reports are one thing...EXPERIENCE is another and we don't all have the same brain structure(THANK GOD!).

Brain chemistry CANNOT BE MEASURED.

Some people can smoke pot others can't,some choose to,some don't.What's the problem?thus we really need the right for our Plants and for Independent lab's to assess these novel chemicals for efficacy and find a use for them.

I'm all for that,but I don't make the rules.

As for this trollop!

" I don't endorse any drug other than maybe shrooms. I just feel that anyone who claims one drug needs to be banned doesn't have the right to demand another to be legal. I feel that adults should be allowed to make their own choices. You however want to see something banned, which makes you no different to the narrowminded soccermums that have delivered us this nannystate. you can't pick and choose as that validates the system. if you validate the nannystate system then you are the problem, not the solution."

Show me where I want to see proven safe products banned(without insults),yes bamby it's going to be hard,but by gosh if you pull your scrotum down low enough to read my posts carefully,you might have noticed I'm against G.M.O.,Forced Inoculations,Pharmaceuticals that have a really bad track record,surveillance etc. .....but I'm all for freedom of personal choice on everything.

Nothing should be out of our reach,but it is so long as testing is rigged,diagnostics are made up or not conducted at all(except on the allowed short releases of these chems as the consumers are the Lab Rats.

I also care about the big picture which you fail to see,so long as it suits YOU.

Why are you in such a hurry to get rid of your stash?

I didn't call anyone,make comlaints.....hell I didn't know you had a trafficable quantity of something you knew you'd make a killing out of when the laws come in....

You are playing right into the hands of the "Nanny-State" and don't even know it!!!...I strive to be drug-free and that's my choice.

If you had been through what I have then you wouldn't go near anything remotely synthetic,but I NEVER stopped anyone from doing what they want,I don't have Jedi Mind power and sure as hell these people CAN make up their own minds.So cut the bullshit.

If you hadn't noticed I'm all for NO-CONTROL,so can I not have my say without being labeled and ridiculed, when I'm concerned that my friends may be in danger??

These compounds bought by my friends are a complete unknown to them and MAY result in HARM,particularly when they are "Isolated Synthetics" that, even if one showed them the chemical structure, it would mean ZIP to them.

Not surprised by the increase in meth demand. In fact it could have been predicted as I did as soon as I heard of the ban.

Not because of addiction or withdrawals however which is a big furby. The only withdrawal involved is the withdrawal of choices.

Similar thing happened in Byron which I also predicted way in advance. When they cracked down on pot hard there was an explosion of heroin use in the town.

These drug legislators never seem to get it through their thick skulls that their misguided efforts can only backfire and make situations worse. Or maybe they do realise but don't care as long as they make some show of appearances.

 

A very recent post from Coja would disagree....

"Posted 15 June 2011 - 11:53 PM

Be careful with these JWH compounds as anything more than occasional or short term use. We've had a couple very drug-experienced nookers who should have known better end up getting very habituated on JWH, developing huge tolerances and suffering horrible withdrawals once kicking. Here's a "trip report" regarding the build up of the habit and horrible withdrawal, a couple folks ended up seriously suicidal and very depressed for prolonged periods of time after getting off their JWH habits:

"JWH-018 Withdrawal - I'd Rather Kick Heroin Nasty consequences of extreme abuse" http://www.thenook.o...showtopic=79381 "

My unique position points to the fact that it CAN cause quite severe withdrawals...especially if you are on or coming of Benzo's!!

So don't ask me how to deal with them when you're stash runs out!

Ask your doctor and he'll hook you up with some Valium.

Be sure to supply your credit card details too as neither offer accepts cash,but rest assured you're details will not be kept on the National Database.

oh damn i guess the pot smokers are gonna have to continue to support those corrupt shiney honest face value nice thread wearing folks in positions of power & trust that already have them secret squirrel sophisticated elaborate approved hydrolaboratory set ups that already flood the black market and constantly bust the competition!

oh its for the best to ban crazy substances like these that only bring on premature onset of psychosis/schizophrenia & diarrhoea dementia that makes one have the nil ability to think for themselves and see the truth.

 

Funny how easily people will trade off the long standing fight for the Decriminilsing/Legalising of the "Plant" Cannabis over "Convenience" and "Legality" with an unproven track record of the dangers associated .....watch the right hand...oops slap from the left.

What did you guys expect?.....This was allowed to happen for a reason....wait until the pudding has proved.

More than one person saw this coming...one I'm disgusted in with the hot potato maneuver and instructions on how to cut it for re-sale

Nice job too 1/2 a kilo should rake in some $$$

You know I really thought this forum was based around Shamanism and Plants and Cultural Values(that's why I joined anyway)....remember all those words you guys typed in about our rights to "Save Our Plants"?

CONGRATS YOU'VE BEEN DUPED IT'S JUST ANOTHER DRUG FORUM!!!!

[Torsten]

anyway would this not make possession illegal?

Or would there be a short grace period to "Dispose" of the banned substance in a hurry?

Depending on how the law is structured it could become illegal immediately or not for months. people who are buying it are well aware of this and are buying exactly because they are aware of it.

So....we pay you to get you out of the shit,then you wash your hands????

well, quite a few people were happpy that I offered it because they had missed out on other sources for one reason or another.

You are making the people who decided to buy this out to be fools. Believe me, they are reading your tripe too and probably won't forget.

Real Cannabis Vs Man-made Synthetics are a whole different game...ask a Cancer Patient

You are assuming that JWH has no therapeutic benefit. how arrogant.

I'm not condoning nor trying to ban this stuff.It's how you say "The Nanny State",which I for the record OPPOSE.

You can't oppose something that you invoke at your convenience. That just makes you a hypocrite.

as for the GABA statement,dude, papers and reports are one thing...EXPERIENCE is another

oh yes, let's throw out all science and rely on your intuition instead. That will get us far. How was your intuition when the doc handed you your first benzos?

Brain chemistry CANNOT BE MEASURED.

huh? so we use fMRI for the pretty pictures only?

Show me where I want to see proven safe products banned(without insults)

Proven & safe means you want nannystate. That's what gives us our lovely laws at the moment - the desire to be safe.

you might have noticed I'm against G.M.O.,Forced Inoculations,Pharmaceuticals that have a really bad track record,surveillance etc. .....but I'm all for freedom of personal choice on everything.

Obviously you only believe in personal choice of the things that are left after the nannystate has removed all the dangerous, unknown and potentially risky things. That's NOT freedom of choice in my book. Just because you fucked up your life with a bad choice doesn't mean that everyone else needs to be treated like a moron [and yes, I am ware that you supposedly weren't aware of the choice you were making].

Nothing should be out of our reach,but it is so long as testing is rigged,diagnostics are made up or not conducted at all(except on the allowed short releases of these chems as the consumers are the Lab Rats.

= Nannystate.

I am all for regulation for labelling and warnigns etc, but not on restriction of availability. if you accept any such restriction then you accept that SOMEONE has the right to set limits. That's not freedom and you have a pretty fucked up perspective if you think it is.

I also care about the big picture which you fail to see,so long as it suits YOU.

Why are you in such a hurry to get rid of your stash?

Because I don't want to possess any illegal drugs once it becomes scheduled. That's because my public position with SAB makes it unwise for me to be involved with illegal drugs AT ALL. Daniel made the choice that he would rather do without the JWH than to put me at risk. other people have speed, mdma, LSD or pot at home and might not feel as strongly about staying wihtin the law. That is their choice.

I strive to be drug-free and that's my choice.

I *AM* drug free because I don't let drugs control me.

If you had been through what I have then you wouldn't go near anything remotely synthetic

So you blame your weakness on the fact it was a synthetic? I have a benzo RC here that is 100% natural and just as addictive as the synths. would you prefer that? This is that old ridiculous natural is safe vs synthetic is evil rant. grow up - we are way beyond that.

If you hadn't noticed I'm all for NO-CONTROL,so can I not have my say without being labeled and ridiculed, when I'm concerned that my friends may be in danger??

These compounds bought by my friends are a complete unknown to them and MAY result in HARM,particularly when they are "Isolated Synthetics" that, even if one showed them the chemical structure, it would mean ZIP to them.

You are insulting your friends' intelligence again.

A very recent post from Coja would disagree....

so just because some people don't have self control and get sucked in by drugs means they shouldn't be available? Isn't that what prohibition is all about? What are you even doing here if that's what you believe in?

I guess next time I shout someone a beer I should also feel guilty about potentially making them alcoholics, right? man, take some responsibility for yourself - you're starting to sound like

Andrew Bolt.

Be sure to supply your credit card details too as neither offer accepts cash

huh? you referrign to my offer?

What did you guys expect?.....This was allowed to happen for a reason....wait until the pudding has proved.

want to share your latest conspiracy theory? Just for laughs really.

Nice job too 1/2 a kilo should rake in some $$$

Yep, exactly what I paid for it to be exact. or would you want me to giove it away for free? I am sure you'd have soem issue with that too, like getting people hooked on drugs to manipulate them or something. I am sure your glutamate flooded brain will comes up with all sorts of beauties.

You know I really thought this forum was based around Shamanism and Plants and Cultural Values(that's why I joined anyway)

Times change. RCs are a fact of life and a large part of the psychoactive experience these days. if you're so unhappy here then maybe it is time to move on.

[Psylo]

apparently they are just shooting up plain old iodine tincture now and its great to find a vein as it really brings the colour out, as everything else is scheduled and impossible to obtain apparently its great for Iodine deficiency deformities also!

please do not do this it is not factual!

 

Shit, too late !

[rahli]

http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/lateline/video/podcast/r789135_6854007.m4v

States begin crackdown on synthetic cannabis @ ABC Lateline. Edited June 23, 2011 by rahli

[Psylo]

One particularly which is up to 100 times more potent than THC, which is I suppose the most well-known psychoactive cannabinoids in cannabis.

Yea, for sure. Everyone's rolling out the 100x statement lately. I sure would like to know which brand is that strong.

[chnt]

propaganda is synonymous with media and journalism.

journalism is a farce.

[Psylo]

propaganda is synonymous with media and journalism.

journalism is a farce.

 

As an anti-media weirdo (according to the straight people I have to endure daily), I understand what you're saying, and champion the statements of fruadulence in news reporting often. On the whole Weed vs. Kronic potency, I got to thinking today.

A number of years ago it was reported in the media that the weed of a new millennium is up to four times more potent than it was in the 60's & 70's. Or in other words, the grass of our parents/grandparents time was not as dangerous as the super-duper hydroponic style of dope in the 2000's. And of course the articles were also laying it down for mainstream shock value that our poor early teens were facing down a demonic plague of mental illness, and that the dirty scourge of illegal drugs was responsible. (The rise of the internet's popularity and a more sedentary childhood lifestyle didn't rate a mention )

Move to 2011, and Australia's recent media reports claiming that Kronic etc. is up to 100 times more potent than pot. Clearly lacking any clarification (or evidence), we can assume they are cross-referring to the weed you buy on the streets today. That which has already been established as 3 times stronger than ever before, ten years ago.

Now for the big rub. If your old hippy uncle smoked half a joint at a Grateful Dead concert back in the hippy days and was well & truly baked on that level of intake, then Kronic - being 300 times more potent (by definition of historical media) - that means one single spliff of Kronic would be enough to blow out a mid-sized live music venue, or 46 Rugby League teams. Four cents a hit !

[chnt]

yeah it's a fucking joke right.

media cunts.

100th post

i gotta catch up on the latest media watch eps now.