Cancer treatment

[Torsten]

I am all for alternative cancer treatments and I certainly don't trust the cancer industry, BUT black salve is a superficial fix and hence dangerous. When you get surgery the incision interface is looked at under the microscope to make sure there are no cancer cells on the remaining side of the incision [hence the often very large scars as a result of 'digging' after the deep roots. This is a certainty that the escharotics don't give you. And by that I mean any escharotics regardless of natural or chemical. This is the greatest shortcoming of medical escharotics, so I don't understand why black salve believers simply dismiss this complication.

The problem is that if the salve did not get it all then we will probably never know. It will likely be years before the cancerous cells show up in your lymph nodes and then suddenly your options are much more limited. You might look back wondering if a little surgery then would have saved you from massive radiation and chemo treatment. You might wonder if you should have traded your 95% cure rate [at 5 years] for the superficial fix that has a cure rate similar to medical escharotics [which is quite low]. But like careless drug dealers who never speak of their stupidity after getting busted, you are unlikely to come back here and tell people that you took unnecessary risks.

I really hope your lifestyle changes keep you healthy because they are certainly more reliable in beating cancer than black salve.

[Psylo]

Can somebody explain what sort of tests are done for skin cancer ? I was told there's a technology that can scan your whole body, identify marks, then cross check against that data a year later.

It seems I have about 10 suspicious marks that several people are urging me to get checked out.

Are these tests bulk-billed ?

[Torsten]

there are automatic scans that can detect skin cancers, but most clinics use simple visual identifcation. some docs will use a scan to map while others will simply inspect everything every time. They don't generally look in nooks and crannies unless you ask them to or point out particular spots.

The billing is up to individual docs and/or clinics. Some clinics will BB everyone while others will only BB concession holders. many won't BB at all, but will still charge medicare rates [ie you get a full refund a few days later], but some will charge above medicare rates. just because a clinic advertises BB doesn't mean all the docs do, so make sure you nail this down when making an appointment and also before starting the appointment.

[LadySwan]

I have a friend who has had numerous skin cancers on her face, she has had surgery to remove some and the scarring is very obvious. She decided to look at alternatives for the treatment doctors wanted to give her and found black salve by Alpha Omega. It is made from escharotic herbs that apparently kill the Cancer and then your body expels it, the body literally pushes the necrosed tumor out before then healing the cavity. It can be painful, and it can appear very ugly but it works. The product she bought cost about $70.00 for the tube and the recipe is apparently the same as the one I have typed up. So if you are after an alternative............... do your research first.

 

We have black salve in our fridge. I treated my melanoma, my mother in law treated hers as well. Blo..dy TGA threatened the guy who was selling it and now you can not buy it anymore, eventhough it was listed on the website as for animal treatment. I beleive there is somewhere recipe how to make it, will post the info later, when get from my mother in law.

The first pic is after the salve has been on for 24 hours, then after being cleaned with 3% peroxide solution. Then I kept it covered for 10 days. It is all perfectly healed.

[Evil Genius]

Psylo, i´ve seen quite a few melanomas in my life so feel free to describe them if you want to. My mother had a very bad melanoma caus she´s a very bright skin type and had many diffrent other marks that needed removal so im pretty positive i know when its time for some scalpell action. Generally i would say that its always better to remove an unneccesary one instead of keeping a malignant one for too long.

[∂an]

The letter contained a multitude of links and information on the economics of the cancer industry, many different opinions and examples of alternative treatment and the repression of those treatments. But just as importantly, the human condition itself ( including such things as diet and lifestyle ). And to add to that - a small time later this member even went to the trouble of purchasing and sending me a dvd on all the aforementioned details. ( this dvd has been shown and downloaded to my afflicted friends computer and is here to send on to anyone else that may need or wish to see it )

 

hi tipz, hope the treatment is going well. would it be possible for you or the kind member who sent you this letter to post this information on the forum? I am particularly interested in how diet and lifestyle can be used to fight cancer. cheers.

[Psylo]

Psylo, i´ve seen quite a few melanomas in my life so feel free to describe them if you want to.

 

I need to get these looked at in the next couple of months, now Im back from holiday. I refuse to go to the cunts I normally do for such an important review, because they are little more than referral experts, getting kickbacks from the specialists in the area when sending a patient for the most trivial matters. And I rang the private practice in my area, and they dont think my money's good enough, telling me that they dont take new patients on unless referred by a family member. What the fuck is that GP's angle!?

Im finding more spots as the weeks & months progress, and have identified about 15 so far. They are of a brown colour, not too dark, maybe like caramel. They are not flush with the skin, so obviously not freckles. If I scratch the surface, it produces a powder, an in a couple of days it grows back to how it was. No pain at all, although I wouldn't expect any. Most are quite recent (but I have been paying more attention so who knows) but they don't seem to be growing in size or darkening. I'm sure it's nothing, but I'll find some cunt to have a look anyway.

[whitewind]

hi tipz, hope the treatment is going well. would it be possible for you or the kind member who sent you this letter to post this information on the forum? I am particularly interested in how diet and lifestyle can be used to fight cancer. cheers.

 

Basically, avoid toxins where possible. This means eating organic food, or food which is free of chemical contaminants, being very careful what healthcare products you put on your skin - use only natural, mineral based products, no fancy nano-particles in particular. I am concerned that many sunscreen lotions contain cancer-causing agents, so use zinc based lotions or just head for the shade, cover up with long sleeves etc. There is a link between meat and colon cancer, cigarette smoking and lung cancer (it may not be natural tobacco or other herbs but rather additives). Avoid city smog, diesel fumes, unfiltered water, over-processed foods, avoid fish and molluscs from busy harbours (fish is perhaps the most difficult food to determine source) and avoid large fish which accumulate toxins such as mercury and other heavy metals, also there has been radiation detected in some bluefin tuna off the coast of America from Fukushima so be concerned about increased levels in other pacific fish that may have migrated form Japan.

Drinking lots of water helps to flush out toxins from the body more quickly, and care for your liver - so don't drink excessively and do a cleanse periodically. Do lots of stretching (yoga / martial arts) and breathing exercises, and above all try to reduce stress.

[∂an]

Avoiding toxins sounds like a good strategy, whitewind (I see that according to wikipedia, however, toxin refers to a "poisonous substance produced within living cells or organisms"; I assume you mean avoid toxic compounds in general?).

I drink lots of water, but it is tap water, so I wonder if it is worth getting a filter. Guess it depends on the quality of the local water supply, which here comes from nearby mountains and therefore requires not so much treatment.

What about the balance of carbohydrates and proteins? I have been reading about the Atkins diet and how a protein rich diet which minimal carbs, which is what our ancestors would have presumably been about, may help prevent cancer.

Is there any evidence that indigenous people living their traditional way of life exhibit less incidence of cancer than modern western people? This seems to be a common hypothesis but I have not seen too much evidence. Given that our life expectancy is much higher than traditional peoples, and that cancer tends to occur in the later stages of life, it seems a difficult thing to prove.

[satyr]

Avoiding toxins sounds like a good strategy, whitewind (I see that according to wikipedia, however, toxin refers to a "poisonous substance produced within living cells or organisms"; I assume you mean avoid toxic compounds in general?)...

What about the balance of carbohydrates and proteins? I have been reading about the Atkins diet and how a protein rich diet which minimal carbs, which is what our ancestors would have presumably been about, may help prevent cancer.

Is there any evidence that indigenous people living their traditional way of life exhibit less incidence of cancer than modern western people? This seems to be a common hypothesis but I have not seen too much evidence. Given that our life expectancy is much higher than traditional peoples, and that cancer tends to occur in the later stages of life, it seems a difficult thing to prove.

 

I found this to be a quite interesting docu, touching on those subjects...

 

 

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[whitewind]

Is there any evidence that indigenous people living their traditional way of life exhibit less incidence of cancer than modern western people? This seems to be a common hypothesis but I have not seen too much evidence. Given that our life expectancy is much higher than traditional peoples, and that cancer tends to occur in the later stages of life, it seems a difficult thing to prove.

 

This is pretty interesting, there is no evidence that indigenous people suffered from less cancer, largely because most cancers tend to develop later than the average life span of an indigenous tribe; however, that does not mean that they would have been prone to cancer if they had lived longer. If cancer is formed by toxins accumulating over time, then it would fully depend on whether they were exposed to those toxins. As we know, our industrial lifestyle has created many new toxins in our environment at a rate that was never seen before, so it seems unlikely. The only test we could make is for us to try and live toxin-free lifestyles for all our lives as a control, and that doesn't happen - most of us live in city environments for parts of our lives, or are subjected to agricultural chemicals if we live rurally (though country living must be healthier in this sense).

I can imagine that if an area had serious toxicity to humans and caused diseases like cancer at a younger age (e.g. near uranium outcrops) the tribes would (over time, perhaps) learn to avoid that area, and when that information gets passed on to us it translates as "We traditionally avoid that area because it is bad spiritually". The mind is affected by problems with the body, so mental illness / sickness and physical illnesses are often treated as different aspects of the same problem.

Your water sounds fine, but natural minerals can accumulate in the body and become toxic over time - I can't remember which ones, so it's good to have your water checked to see if it's particularly high in something. I think this applies to bore water more than creek or dam water.

I had friends who tried the Atkins diet; it seemed to work well but they ended up with awful breath for some reason, which doesn't sound healthy to me. I've cut down on my carbs drastically recently, especially wheat, as I've had stomach troubles for a while, and it took some time but I'm feeling pretty good for the first time in ages. I'm concerned about crash diets because every time I try one I get massive mood swings and can't function; better to slowly ease some thing out of your diet bit by bit.

[mud]

The polypores all seem to kick ass for this kinda thing. They often look likes cancers or tumours growing from old logs..

Tinder, and false tinder fungus..

Most of 'em seem to inhibit cancer cells. Boost the immune system also.

[LokStok]

...black salve...

... that has a cure rate similar to medical escharotics...

 

Torsten, is there some evidence based data that that you know of that supports this?

[Xenodimensional]

I had friends who tried the Atkins diet; it seemed to work well but they ended up with awful breath for some reason, which doesn't sound healthy to me.

 

That is evidence of a high protein diet causing excessive kidney impairment. The Atkins diet is *not* healthy. High protein (and lo-carb) diets are also a possible cause of osteoporosis. Enzymes are the key to cellular metabolic health.

I may have some other info re a natural skin cancer treatment but I'm going to do some reading as I have a suspicion about whether it is an ingredient of this black salve stuff.

edit; nope, cursory research suggests the plant I'd heard of is not in black salve. When I was a kid my parents used to buy culinary herbs (as part of their business) from a German or Hungarian guy who was working on a solanaceae based treatment. If memory serves me correctly (and I.m rarely wrong with this stuff) it was the 'Devils Apple' (Solanum capsicoides) although the ones he grew had variegated fruits so I may have it confused with something similar or maybe he had a cultivar or something. I'd imagine he would have passed on by now so I thought I might as well put it out there for if anyone is inclined to look into it.

edit2; and yep, a quick net skim suggests it probably is the devils apple and that is already has been used for treating skin cancers. From http://www.herbiguide.com.au/Descriptions/hg_AppleofSodom.htm

"Herbal medicine in South Africa for skin disorders, toothache and colds and roots carried as protection against poisoning.

Used as a poultice by pastoralists for skin disorders on stock and under investigation for its effects on skin cancer."

Edited June 16, 2012 by Xenodimensional

[Evil Genius]

That is evidence of a high protein diet causing excessive kidney impairment.

You cant use one or two particular cases as proof for anything. There was a long time study on children in 2010 that came to the conclusion that even a prolongued ketongenic diet does not cause any kind of problem in healthy people. There was an american study that pointed out potential problems for diabetics and people with kidney damage because of their already reduced kidney function but you cant just declare a diet as unhealthy only because it doesnt fit your view of nutrition. I know how nutritionists work and how they attack every alternative type of nutrition just because it doesnt fit their own belief system. I agree that enzymes are an important factor when its about cellular health but this has nothing to do with the fact that people can live very well with the atkins diet if they make sure they dont get some kind of Vitamine defiency. And btw, i have the impression that most people who attack the atkins diet just dont understand the whole concept well enough because it does NOT mean that people should just throw in all kind of fatty shit and nothing else. Thats just what the people who attack the diet say it is to simplify things and its definately not the way the actual atkins diet is intended to be. Atkins diet does not mean excessive Proteine intake and nothing else. It means low Carbohydrate intake in combination with a balanced diet. Only because there is no official maximum amount of Proteins given from the atkins diet, this doesnt mean people should eat all meat they physically can. That is a misunderstanding of the whole concept. My personal health improved greatly since i live like that and i should note that i am having monthly checkups of my blood because of an immune generated disease that originally made me change my diet to begin with. You know, i have no problem when people dont agree with the way im living as long as they dont *warn* others from this kind of diet, only based on things they´ve read somewhere without actually having tested it themselves or having read one full study about it. Not saying you are not informed, just that i am used to this kind of talk from people and once you start digging a little bit deeper, its getting obvious they were reposting 30 year old claims from nutritionists that were proven wrong decades ago. I really think that the problem is that some people just exaggerate every theory to their most extreme case. There is a LD50 for everything and when i feed someone kilo amounts of meat every single day, chances are his organs will fail at some point or another. But thats not about the atkins diet. And when people already have a damaged kidney, its possible they might run into trouble when eating excessive amounts of meat. But they would have the same problem if they´d live by a regular diet if they´d eat insane amounts of meat at the same time because the kidneys cant handle the high amount of proteine. But who does that? The atkins diet certainly doesnt suggest people to do so. It says people CAN eat as much proteine as they want to but should not do this all the time. Atkins himself said that living by the atkins diet doesnt not mean that you should just lose all self-control and eat excessive amounts of meat all the time.

Edited June 16, 2012 by Evil Genius

[Evil Genius]

Another factor that many people seem to overlook is the fact that cancer and carbohydrates are in fact related to each other. Just take a look at the general principle of cancer. Its actually nothing else than a fermentation of the healthy cells. And how do you get or speed up the fermentation process? Right, by adding sugar. So in my eyes, the risk of getting cancer as a result of a chronic carbohydrate intoxication over many years weighs more than the theoretical risk of taking in too much proteine. Especially since most studies actually backed the atkins diet up. Just take a look at the way cancer spreads inside the body of someone who suffers from it. After all these years and the countless great discoveries the modern medicine made; it still has problems to heal many types of cancer. The reason is simple. Even if you remove a tumor, the underlying cancer disease very oftenly comes back in other parts of the body and kills the patient. And im talking about people who are free of metastases and its still not understood why this sudden re-occurence of the tumor actually happens. I am 100% convinced that the reason for this is because the actual problem cant be solved by chemotherapy or radiation. The amount of carbohydrates that modern people take in is nowhere near a healthy level and if you compare it to the amount that stoneage men took in, its getting obvious that this is not how nature intented our diet to look like. I mean, before the time when people started to make their bread, beer and other types of high carb foods, people ate lots of meat and vegetables. Fruit was only available in summer so they had to live with few carbohydrates and thats how we were designed to eat. Modern people die from too many nutrients. Healthiest people on the planet are the inuit. And their diet consists of LOTS of fat from the animals they hunt and very few carbohydrates. I could go on about this forever but im sure you would also agree that eating too much carbohydrates isnt really healthy. I guess the problem is that many people can only think in Black or white without having place for anything in between. If you flood your body with nothing but meat, its not healthy and if you eat nothing but carbohydrates all day its not healthy either. But there is nothing bad about reducing the carbs to a minimum if you live by a balanced diet. And as a sidenote: Scientists agree that people would not age if they wouldnt take in carbohydrates. And the less carbs people take in, the slower their cells age. I think thats a pretty good indicator that high intake of carbohydrates is something that should rather be avoided.

Edited June 16, 2012 by Evil Genius

[pete34]

My Thoughts for long life and to banish cancer

unless i have a broken bone or need stitches i dont go near the hospital

its about money

big pharma = stock market

it has to make you THINK they can help by masking symptoms NOT fixing anything,

to be kind a more sophisticated voodoo trick of the hand snake oil merchant type

Dr = a person educated by big pharma!

Dr's only know what big pharma has told him/her and isnt allowed to look at alternatives as they get de-listed

if you want to stay well stay away

stats are 1/3 of the time they make you better, 1/3 of the time no change, 1/3 of the time worse, void

stats for usa: big pharma is the biggest killer and thats with cooked stats e.g. all the people they kill with chemo are cancer victims and all the chemicals in the food and water i could go on

they breed germs, many new strains will appear BUT you can protect yourself easily at low cost

i cant tell you in words how important this is you need to look and think test for yourself, It costs $5 or $10 per year

cancer and so many other things, a list of uses here http://jimhumble.biz/

it fully chelate's you also

learn about what he says about DMSO for internal delivery

it works for burns also

you need to see all the things it works for, most things are from viri, 50% from pets/fleas

he has 2 pdf downloads that go into detail, 1 is free, read that you will see its worth getting the 2nd one, its even better info for nics,the website http://jimhumble.biz/ has a huge list in less detail

i have been using mms1 for 3 years its worked for all the things i used it even for burns, a burn creates acid, mms neutralises the acid instantly then the pain comes back in 5 mins you spray it on again, after 3 or 4 applications the pain stops (for burns!) i have done it and it heals no scar, you know how much a burn hurts, even sunburn is fixed instantly

to buy it

google: Jim Humble MMS1

and

Jim Humble MMS2

cuts heal fast

look at what mms does to ALL cancer

mms1 with DMSO seems to do the same thing as bloodroot for skin cancer

you need to make sure you get enough vitamin c as mms1 chelate's plaque from arteries, plaque can be from lack of vitamin c, he explains at length in pdf doc's, important to get the non acidic vitamin c if more than 1000mg taken a day as it makes you acidic (cancer needs acid) plaque is mainly from oil deposits, only coconut oil is good for cooking

80kg person needs 750mg vitamin c a day as humans cant make it anymore, i take 500mg as i get it in food also

men need zinc daily

Also grow the cancer bush: Sutherlandia frutescens

IMPORTANT moringa oleifera powder for diabetes and many other ailments, i get it on ebay or alibaba.com

or get moringa oleifera seeds

make a tea with 70c degree water or put it in cooking

naturalnews.com to learn howto protect your family from anything, mms1 and mms2 covers most things, i have used mms2 that i bought online in pill form to see if its true or not and the main thing is 2 glasses of water or even 3, i also bought a big bucket from the shop

i take ENO if i want bicarb soda as its easy to drink

but not before or after a meal as pancreatic juices can get confused digesting

talking of pancreas chewing gum confuses and uses up juices the pancreas makes

dont use artificial sweetener, long story just dont do it if you like your brain

it would cost a few grand to cure cancer Australia wide and most of the cost would be gel caps!!!

thats why you never hear about it, FUCK YOU BIG PHARMA! FUCK YOU!!!

dont forget the power of positive thought, stay positive in all situations, have you watched Bear Grills how he thinks positive not panics, its the same for all things, you think and fight to the last breath,thats when humans shine/evolve

fear is good for nothing.

You know about the placebo effect its proven fact, only humans do it, you dont hear its our Spirit healing our body from a thought, or about the opposite called nocebo so make sure you are positive

and know this: every cloud has a silver lining

Know this: We are unstoppable, the Spirit stands outside of time, there is a continuity of the Spirit during every incarnation which bridges all times. All lifetimes of the Spirit are integrated by the Spirit in the endless NOW of Creation. Wisdom is carried forward to Creation as the Spirit Evolves.

ask your Spirit to heal your body holding your hands over the area

ask your spirit to remember your dreams

important:humans have detached from nature, (weather permitting) you need 20 mins a day bare feet on the grass admiring The Creation, Gardening is good

you need a 20 min walk a day

Dont pray to one of the gods they where just people who enslaved you and your mind, satan was a man

you are meant to pray to your Spirit and The Creation they are real and it works, we are from The Universe (The Creation)

we are The Creation

This is the original prayer stolen from you, its how you open the power inside you

1. My spirit, you are all-mighty.

2. Your name shall be honoured.

3. Your realm shall open (incarnate) in me.

4. Your might (might of the consciousness) shall unfold in me, on earths and in universes.

5. Give me my daily bread (love, wisdom) today so I recognise my responsibility and I recognise the truth.

6. And do not throw me into confusion and delusion, but release me from my misunderstanding.

7. For the realm, the power (power of knowledge) and the knowledge within me are yours (The Creation) in eternity.

do the German version to unlock abilities even more

http://ca.figu.org/Mein_Geist_Prayer.html#Mein_Geist_Prayer

listen to it here

http://ca.figu.org/Audio_Clips.html

dont use deodorant that isnt natural ingredients

skin problems often are from soap and drying yourself with a towel and hot showers, the skin defends itself with a layer of chemicals/oils and we strip them away, then things ca get in, try not to use a towel

sun block allows you to stay in the sun for unnatural time and is chemicals, until recently it only blocked UVA then they say oh it needs to block UVB also, they dont know jack. Build up a tan and know what you can handle

vitamin D from the sun 15-20 mins most days (depending winter/summer) on at least 50% of your body

artificial light is bad for humans so dont use that for tanning unless you cant get sun

try and use candles or natural light when its feasible

i know this part will be hard to believe as you are told otherwise but if you have calcium deficiency milk takes more calcium than it puts so just swapping milk for rice or oat milk you will know for yourself

soy milk is bad for humans, only consume soy if its fermented

and milk is full of female hormones as its from a lactating female who the farmer pumps full of more female hormones, just 1 week with rice milk you will notice your body and mind are harder, especially with amino acids bellow

spirulina is needed now as most vegetables are grown in the same location with just chemicals, bulknutrients.com.au i found is the lowest price to buy powder then put it in gel caps, while there consider amino acids l.lysine and l.argenine and make a 50/50 mix as it makes HGH in the body

there is music in harmony with The Creation and there is music out of harmony with The Creation, you can sense it so dont listen to junk, it runs deep

i like the Native Japanese flute here

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Peaceful_Music

dont watch ads or things like war doc's, your brain is doing what it sees,

record tv and skip the junk, watch the news in a few minutes eh eh

consider watching Gene Roddenberry and George Lucus stuff, trust me do it

tv puts you into a meditative state that talks to your sub-conscious, you can always swing a bad thing into a good thing so after watching tv turn it off and do a quick meditation, if you watch tv and believe what is said, any of it,you need to open your eyes and mind, its all scripted, all of it and each script is written in a way that implants concepts you mostly wont see, its controlled by a few. Notice for some time now 15 years or so all the news channels are clones, same script.

i know some of you will not believe this paragraph, its because most people in the west are ignorant as they are lied too, so do it and you will then know for yourself: You need to shield yourself with your spirit from negative energies with a mental glowing white shield around your body also imagine all negative forces flying into space and tell them to get lost, do it anytime but its really strong in meditation. The plants shamans use to get rid of negative energies work, white sage is easy to find in stick form, use it most days. Another thing you wont believe at first is you cant eat meat with fruit, the enzymes the pancreas makes to digest meat dosnt digest fruit, the fruit rots faster than it takes for the meat to pass through so you have rotten fruit inside you, you need to eat fruit before meat not during or after, i know its nice to eat fruit after meat but try what i say if you can. Tomato and some other veg are fruit.

Forgive. forgive everyone right now, its no point hating man,honestly people dont know what they are doing.

i am Australian, 5th generation Irish/english/Welsh/Scotish convict, descendant of William. So if anything i said about western beliefs/ignorance upsets anyone its from an ignorant western fellow, so too bad eh eh.

I have no affiliation with anyone i spent hrs on this to share the vital things i have researched for the love of helping my brothers and sisters, the things i mention are easy for you to test/research yourself.

Humans need to meditate, its the way to access The Creation, The Creation's energy and knowledge.

http://ca.figu.org/Meditation.html

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Spirit_Teaching

Space and time are not overcome by space and time, but by spacelessness and timelessness

I would fly to the Amazon or Outback and find a shaman before i goto a quack Dr

Hey big pharma the age of reason is upon you

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

-- Abraham Lincoln

Salome

Peter

[LokStok]

thanks Peter.

[pete34]

My Pleasure LokStock

Dyeing one's hair and Bladder Cancer

http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/6361.html

Meditation is important

http://wakeup-world.com/2011/07/12/scientist-prove-dna-can-be-reprogrammed-by-words-frequencies/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/brain-dna-changes-through-life-2378009.html

Important

Dont use a microwave oven

[pete34]

chemicals are put on tobacco that cause cancer, the industry calls it beautification and dont realise, also its broad, hairy, sticky leaves pick up/hold isotopes

grow the legal tobacco's for a mix

[Zaka]

Irie,

Not sure if it's been discussed here???

But I'm just hearing about carnivora?

Made from an extract of Venus Flytrap!

Anyone know more???

Respect,

Z

[Chrissy Star]

Ok ! I have had a bit of a shock today !

I have been to see a skin specialist and although still waiting on biopsy results, My skin specialist believes there is a 'very' high chance i have a basal cell carcinoma that has spread widely across the bridge of my nose.

 

RADIUM WEED or CANCER WEED....used by indiginous fold, plucked from the ground and placed over skin cancer until it heals. I have included 2 attchments, one about the plant (Euphorbia peplus), one is a medical paper on it's success. this should be common knowledge for all australians and grown in the backyard in the vege patch.

All the best in treating this before u loose ur nose !!!

Radium weed.pdf

Radium weed (Euphorbia peplus) - Copy.pdf

Radium weed.pdf

Radium weed (Euphorbia peplus) - Copy.pdf

Radium weed.pdf

Radium weed (Euphorbia peplus) - Copy.pdf

[Auxin]

Mentioning this because journalists just love confusing people for a story.

Today I saw a headline "Cancer drug from Weed in clinical trial!"

Well its about the mediterranean plant Thapsia garganica, not weed lol, it seems the critters got a cytotoxic compound in it that kills cells by fucking with their calcium metabolism. ie. A poison. As with all emerging drugs its hard to get definite info but it seems they made a patentable pro-drug analog thats made into the active poison by cells at a rate proportional to their metabolic activity. In other words a new toxic chemotherapy drug, and one you cant just grow.

Thapsia garganica seems nothing to get excited about.

[Chrissy Star]

Thapsia garganica seems nothing to get excited about.

 

I believe that all air play is good air play when it comes to plant communities being used in place of pharmaceuticals (...so long as it's not prohibition that is...) - so I do get excited, VERY excited when I see articles like that!!! I get excited because it brings to mind that we have choice and that what the average doctor tells us to get at the pharmacy is not the only possibility for healing - that yes, we can find healing substances in our plant communities!!!

Awesome!!! The planet looks after her own so well.

[Zaka]

Irie,

Not sure if it's been discussed here???

But I'm just hearing about carnivora?

Made from an extract of Venus Flytrap!

Anyone know more???

Respect,

Z

 

Irie,

Come on? No one?

I UTFSE & came up with FA....

I was listening to a podcast but only caught a few minutes...

Sounding well interesting....

Respect,

Z

Edit This is what I was listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVq5cvbPUbs&feature=plcp

This is what I've found http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAlternativeMedicine/HerbsVitaminsandMinerals/venus-flytrap

Edited July 13, 2012 by Zaka