PhoenixSon Posted May 24, 2008 Was wondering what plants you have admired and felt have healed you the most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted May 27, 2008 I have a whole huge list... but I think the "Holy Three" are the most effective and profound. Ayahuasca (Caapi + DMT), 'Shrooms (Psilocybian Mushrooms), Cactus (Lophophora species and Trichocereus species). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mauve Posted May 27, 2008 ^^^what he said^^^i'll add Rivea Corymbosa and Nicotiana Rustica. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeti101 Posted May 27, 2008 Don't forget Salvia divinorum! I owe most of my understanding of physics to Her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhoenixSon Posted May 27, 2008 Cheers guys, thanks for the info. Have to try some of these when i go overseas, especially a sally extract/aya. Im really intrested in effective mind/body cleansing, and not just the visual sideshow, when the plant really gets into your system and starts arranging things into a more natural order. Thats the bees knees for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
incognito Posted May 27, 2008 Don't forget Salvia divinorum! I owe most of my understanding of physics to Her.[/b any chance u can expandon that yeti? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted May 27, 2008 Y'all want me to post my whole list of the most safe and effective Entheogens? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeti101 Posted May 28, 2008 any chance u can expandon that yeti? Well it is one thing to be told that Time is a vector (or can be thought of a such) similar to distance, but it is an other thing entirely to find yourself in a place where you can see/experience it first-hand. It is something that will stay with me forever. I'll discuss it further some other time so as to not hijack the thread. To relate it back to the original question, I think Salvia divinorum, when used in a mindful way, can provide some pretty amazing insights. Definitely try it where legal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted May 28, 2008 I expected it to be something simpler. What tokes up must fall down. ...back on topic, I like ashwagandha for a all-around medicinal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeti101 Posted May 28, 2008 What tokes up must fall down. That too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kindness Posted May 28, 2008 the journey is not one that is revealed easily or comfortably from the start. It might take years to get what you are searching for. For sure elders in your community might show you if you are ready, (be it this one or preferably ones more physically in your community) will show you the ways to meet power plants. otherwise ... oh yeah... dude.. otherwise you are just going to get the same shit, i mean lessons, over and over till you get it. By this I mean the experience may get uncomfortable. the things that are talked of here are tools to higher consciousness - almost feel that there should be a degree in ALL uni's or something that talks of ethnogenics. But for now we will continue on with word of mouth and anecdotal evidence. yeah, that and the thousands of years of people using them to heal. Without becoming a big boring post, mainly hallucinogenics, (as they are now called) can provide an avenue to helping others. Thats all for me. Other than that eventually they will kick you in the arse one way or another. peace an love Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teljkon Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) asdasd Edited December 19, 2021 by Teljkon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kindness Posted May 28, 2008 took a while to notice but for me the crap feeling at the end was me not getting that the stuff that was making me feel uncomfortable was the stuff I needed to work on. but hey, that was my lesson... maybe not yours. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t st tantra Posted May 28, 2008 dont know about healing but calea has gifted me with what could be seen as an initiatory series of visions.......things i still think and talk about. a few sessions,every year or so offers a more complex experience than was previously experienced,part lucid dreaming type stuff........peak experience then drops off in effect. and heimia i reckon works better the more fucked your psyche is........again gifting almost unrelated to dose a vision allowing reintegration and acceptance of yr life! t s t . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mauve Posted May 30, 2008 good observations, i've noticed that with the Calea, never underestimate this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhoenixSon Posted May 30, 2008 Nice news, Got a heimia growing, But it's still young, Have to investigate the calea though. cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus On Peyote Posted May 30, 2008 Mauve, how would you recommend the ingestion of Calea? iv read different methods with different results. Tea, plain leaf smoke or extract? and iv also heard its most effective ( if not only effective) just b4 bed, that true? Peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mauve Posted May 30, 2008 i don't recommend the ingestion of Calea...way too bitter lol Seriously, i used to smoke powdered Calea, i found it more effective when powdered i don't know why. Drinking Calea is for people who needs to be punished But i remember about a non bitter strain of Calea that you could drink with pleasure and it was effective too...too bad i lost my plant ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stinkmeat Posted June 1, 2008 I would also agree with others on DMT containing plants, as well as psilocibin mushrooms (where legal). One other that I would personally chuck into the mix is the Blue Lilly (the native Australian variety, not the Sacred Lotus, although I believe they have similar effects.) While its immediate effects are of mild euphoria and/or sedation (depending on how it is taken), I have noticed some very beneficial effects the days prioir to ingestion or smoking. A few things of note were a general feeling of wellbeing. More mental alertness, better memory and easier problem solving. Also there was a noted increase in the significance of my dreams, as well as the lucidity of them. It's possible that the above benefits of lillies may have just been a coincidence, as I had been in a generally good headspace at the time. But I definitely felt that something healing came from the plant. Stink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watertrade Posted June 1, 2008 Lingzhi (fungus) Lingzhi (fungus) = Ganoderma lucidum - Reishi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t st tantra Posted June 1, 2008 imo the bitterness of calea is overrated......better than thick,slimy and/or astringent! but as said there are now the loraxs plants and some of them are not very bitter. smoking alone is enough,esp if u have an ext.some like the flavour of the smoke. can be used 4 daydreaming. t s t . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
