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just quickly having a look, Acacia oxycedrus http://www.worldwidewattle.com/speciesgallery/oxycedrus.php Acacia oxycedrus x sophorae http://www.worldwidewattle.com/speciesgallery/oxycedrus_x_sophorae.php Also hybridises with the longifolia variant of Acacia mucronata http://www.worldwidewattle.com/speciesgallery/mucronata.php as with the longifolia variant of Acacia longifolia http://www.worldwidewattle.com/speciesgallery/longifolia.php as well as Acacia floribunda as mentioned in the first link, which i reckon would be of great interest. "specimens apparently referable to a hybrid between these parents has been recorded from Brooklyn on the Hawkesbury R., N of Sydney" There's collection data for it, but little hesitant to post it even though it's easily publicly accessable? If yours have ball flowers spacemonk they'll be a different species altogether, there's a few options under the ball ones similar to oxycedrus, there's also reduced spikes which can look a bit ball like. Were they singular balls or many balls on a stem?

yeah the melanoxylon seems to be highly variable in it's foliage expression within localised and broader populations, particularly at young stages like the plants in the photos, not strictly but moreso than a lot of the other Acacia i see on a regular basis, but those species alone would have their specific unique variations too no doubt. I recall when learning the locals around here years ago, seems the melanoxylon was quite frequent in throwing out juvenille bipinnate foliage, specifically like they do as seedlings from the transition from bipinnate to phyllode, i.e. a pyhllode terminating with bipinnate foliage. I've no experience with alpina either, though i think generally their phyllodes are much smaller, maxing out at around 30mm width in the more extreme expressions. Some of the giveaways with these photos are the characteristic patterns/colourations of the stems, the characteristics of the dead phyllodes and the variation of the live phyllode of which is easy to skew ID as there seems to be less stable representation on those plants, though can still see some of the general melanoxylon phyllode shapes poking around in there. though with anything, nothing is 100% ;) If you're up that way sporadically, can't hurt to check in on them for flower structures etc to solidify ID over time, or even just to see the further variation and stabilisation the plants will go through. A good local species to see mass shift in width of phyllode, particularly on young plants is A. pycnantha, going from like dinner plates at times, to those more skinny extremes that melanoxylon can do. Plus their colours are really purdy, almost smack on like phleb, sunburnt colours...

just a melanoxylon there fella, at least from what i can see.

Bedfordia arborescens, blanket leaf http://museumvictoria.com.au/forest/plants/blanket.html

Sorry all, not looking good for making it, have a function at 1pm (timing ey) amongst other things. Apologies for prior convo's with some members, things are complicated, will try to be in touch.

Absolute pleasure, great communication, quick packing and posting, excellent plants too! Highly recommended. Thanks dug!

I followed bits and pieces of the progression of medical use in the states / canada over the last couple of years, watching politicians/czars make completely false statements to support their agenda which was whittled down over time as more intellectual interviewers pushed specific topics and statements to a point where in some cases the politicians/czars had not a leg to stand on regarding their 'no medical value' 'no studies ever proving this or that' etc. Finally when it hit this point in conversation, after it was shown the 'no medical value etc' was a pure lie and the people were squirmin', it came down to and was happily put out there by the speakers that they specifically did not want people getting 'high', from the examples i remember it was in no way a public health thing, i.e. can't get high 'cause they'd be an intoxicated danger in the workplace etc, to me it was quite clear it was the mentality of fear, the whole white male industrialised drinking culture vs pot smoking hippies who threaten the current establishments social structure, unsustainable industries etc. So yeah, your statement is exactly what they want! The demonisation of a plant, demonisation of races, complete dismission of the plants values, then sneaking in, taking parts of it to use for their pharmacy industry, then demonsied and dismiss the plants lack of worth again.

re: durability, Two (90mm?, standard size) plates fit well into the small padded postal envelopes, never had a complaint of a breakage. Have had plates just with a wrap of paper around them, sent to me with good success too.

yah both melanoxylon.

wooh nice one again obtuse, very nice work :D makes ya wonder on the abundance across the southern tip if not appropriate habitats all across tassie of these fellas if they are fruiting at least consistently in one area. cheers for taking time to put up the pics and info.

Could i get # 18 please? Will pm ya. and good to see ya 'round too!

i've got mine in the ground, probably a 4-5 year old plant, we receive frosts which differ in severity over the years, strong frosts but not ridiculous. I like to cut mine back to a bit above ground level once or twice a year after fruiting or if leggy, and they reshoot to a good bushy 2ft in no time. Very easy plants to grow.

probably the honey locust http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/documents/Biosecurity_EnvironmentalPests/IPA-Honey-Locust-PP47.pdf which paradox ID'ed well over here http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=27198

yeah too much experience over here too, breaks your heart, lost 2 balls of ceaspitosa about a month back, a good 7" diameter+ on both, from the inside out, probably at union, all salvaged bits rotted over the following weeks. My perpesctive it'll be a challenge, do-able but sometimes just outta your control, some of the healthiest heads i've had have re-infected before, good luck

I reckon it was a combination of alcohol synergy, adrenaline and taking too much of a good thing, even if the latter dosage was perceived to be large or small, i don't think many people grasp the strength, particularly the same material in different contexts. An overdose imo can be as simple as a puff, then the substance gets the blame with adulterants etc, where in reality the dosage was too high for the context.

lol well there goes go-go's question just as i hit reply toast of course you are very free to do what you please, but to me this plant is an example of where i think we should be supporting the person/people who created it by making a purchase instead of trades, at least at this young stage in it's existence, just my opinion.

Only had a chance for a brief look in some books, might not be karroo as the spines are different from info atm. The planting thing intrigued me too, am pretty sure the karroo thorn , camel thorn etc. Acacia are on the eradication list in most states if not all? Where abouts did this fella source his material? Local wild seed collections, nursery? Tripsis your ones possibly are Acacia drepanolobium.

you haven't been secretly watching mortal kombat again have ya? Mrs Death 3? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2311354/

Don't have much time atm, off top of head maybe look into Acacia karroo. and meeka they are just the benefits of naja's picture postings ;)

HBD YM and to you too the pants who are fancy. have a good one, hope you're not freezin' your arse off down there YM.

Nice one fellas, looking amazing thanks for taking the time to share the progress, HN shithot mate, have to be proud with that from seed WT can't wait to see yours mature, gnarly looking buggers.

does look scale-ish, but to me leans more towards one of the black rots. Should heal up okay, but get that thing rooted as it's looking very dehydrated and stressed with the pup sucking it's stored energy. Funny thing with some black rot spots over the years, well what i think have been black rot spots, was being able to pick them off like scale, some even had taproot like appendages, unless they were a different type of scale? but from their progression it seemed to start as a subcuticle blackening (sometimes firstly just a clearish blister), which upon partial drying could be dug/scratched off. They were observably different from the outer cuticle scale i've had. I don't recommend digging out black rot spots, it was more a learning situation.

the online store in aus, everten, seems to have good dexter prices if you are interested ed, have only had experience with one style of that brand, though found the workmanship fairly inconsistent, embossed engraving poor and different over two of the same, wood not really cut/finished overly well (not that i was really expecting perfection for the price), but still feel and work really well, overall i was still very happy. Thanks for your suggestions of experience as i've been pondering a set of skinners for rabbits to deer and these look like a well priced addition. Thanks.

certainly do pd, not much to see, but suppose i'm pretty used to them all will have to organise something one day when the time's right :D had bugger all growth on everything this year, only things that really had an okay one were established ground planted PC, been a funny one this year. mutant the rot seems to be healing so won't be getting cut again, most plants i find bitter, don't think i've really had any that aren't? cheers trips, will get a couple more up eventually.

Abronia? Abronia ameliae? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abronia_%28plant%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abronia_ameliae