MORG

You're looking at a potential PhD worth of research right there. Ambitious and I encourage you. If you're serious about disentangling the genetic and environment influences on alkaloid production you should consider a common garden experiment. It is really the only effective way to look at this. If you want to go deep, breeding experiments and common garden will allow you to calculate heritability coefficients (the extent to which a trait is inherited versus environmentally controlled). There are textbooks written on quantitative genetics, all about determining the genetic/environmental interaction on phenotype. I don't know much about growth rate/generation time in Sida to know if this is at all feasible for you.

Yeah, keep us posted as things change. Just made a very indulgent saffron martini using some old tincture and Bombay Sapphire. By jingoes it was incredible. And smiley. I'm very keen to refine and relive this drink so would like to kick in if there becomes space. Let us know how the sample goes for you! Waiting with exotic, spicey breath. M

I'm not a chemist so not much use to you in regard to the practical here. What you intend to do is very interesting though. I am becoming more and more interested in plant secondary metabolites and I have found through recent reading that there is a strong bias in the literature towards a very narrow sample because of a focus on biosynthesis and molecular biology. A fundamental step in studying the evolutionary and ecological role of alkaloids I think is to study them at a population level. This is so rarely found in the literature. Characterizing variation within and between populations are very worthy observations to make. Good luck! And I should add: Studying weeds makes perfect sense in terms of ethics and logistics!

Happy birthday mate. You're a constant here and appreciated.

Some great stuff there... Don't forget the gynecological examination mannekin.

Anyone here going to this one? http://www.highanddryfestival.net/ 27-29 November High&Dry Festival 2009. Three full days of arts, music, camping and ridiculous fun in the most magical setting of Camp Wollimi, just two hours North of Sydney. Spend the final weekend in November relaxing on the sandy riverbank by day and partying to some of Australia's finest independent musicians by night - what's more, High&Dry is Sydney's only BYO festival. Expect a full-fleshed arts program too; interactive installation, twisted sculpture and cutting edge theatre. High&Dry is not for profit, independent, and is funded one hundred per cent by its participants. That means there is no corporate or government sponsorship of any sort; every single dollar comes from the hard-earned pockets of the very same people grooving to the tunes, splashing in the river and soaking up the sunshine next to you.

Would like to get hold of Anadenanthera seeds if anyone's got a tree producing them. I'd like Yopo (A. peregrina) but understand it's rare/non-existent in Australia. Would also be very happy with A. colubrina seed (esp. var. Cebil) if anyone has some beans. Thanks tigers!

Of bufo and Brosimum.... See attached ref. Sap sold by Maya, wonder if you'd get it through customs. Brosimum_ref.pdf

Hey hey fella. Welcome back Benz. Now try piecing together the name changes.

Shit man. I couldn't read that fast enough. I got so impatient and anxious about your dream I just wanted to know it without having to spend the few minutes reading it. I'm glad it ended where it did. Scared the shit out of me and it wasn't even my dream. Bests to you my man.

Haha, well it seems like any good legend this one has grown with the telling. No ten rules I'm afraid. I finally found it after some roundabout search engining. And welcome back HK. Next time you put pics of guys giving head in the park can you put a "Not safe for work" warning on it please? ** http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/inde...14847&st=25 I noticed alot of new people joining up when the competition/raffle/free-stuff craze went through. Perhaps there were alot of people lurking and reading until the chance came up to get some goodies for participating. I don't like to mention 'noobs' much though because I feel pretentious, elitist and big-headed. Before posting I think people should just consider: - Is my post redundant? (Has this been mentioned elsewhere? Is the answer to this available elsewhere?) If it is something which is "common knowledge" like "What is HBWR?" then a little searching would dig the answer up. - Is my post informed? eg. don't speculate wildly about some physiological phenomena that to your knowledge could operate in an entirely opposite fashion. EVERYONE is capable of making uninformed idle speculation and noone generally wants to read it. If the thread goes untouched for a long time then maybe put your two-cents in, but generally someone else with more knowledge will pipe up. - Will post be appreciated? At certain times the aforementioned two rules can be disregarded in favour of eg. a joke. You can make a contribution through character (some of my favourite posts by others have been just such) but this should be done judiciously... unless you're a charming, witty, charismatic, celebrity, comedian like EG. - Does my post conform to the rules? Try to be nice. And of course don't incriminate yourself. Maybe there's some more things people could add that I've left out. In any case, new or old, anyone is capable of making useless, poorly thought out or annoying posts. Whether your presence here is appreciated will largely be judged on the ratio of these to your quality posts.

I tried playing by the rules for a while but found the protection on iTunes-purchased music to be more restrictive and frustrating than when I used to buy music on CD. I can't listen to the music my brother buys on his account, moving tracks from iPod to computer to computer to device is impossible and I've wasted dozens of CDs trying to burn albums with some sort of protection on them. I also don't have the net at home, so authentication, registration and all that bullshit is inaccessible to me. Anyway, this all recently built to a head, I got the shits and now I'm a pirate, yarrgh! I'll save my money for gigs. The album is fantastic I think. More of a Younger Brother feel with all the live drums on it. I think its been written with a more full live-band kind of vibe in mind rather than your DJ front and center with support. Love it!

That's her. Are you retracting your observations on the geometry of A. implexa now? Were you actually talking about the geometry of A. obtusifolia?

My point about it being a subspecies of A. obtusifolia was that it was vanishingly unlikely to be one Good call xodarap. I keyed this out with Wattle last night just using the pics and a few of meanies clues and A. implexa seems a compelling answer. Read the species description from PlantNET: Erect or spreading tree 5–12 m high, often suckers freely; bark hard, smooth becoming corrugated or fissured at base, greyish or brownish; branchlets terete or rarely angled, glabrous, commonly lightly pruinose. Phyllodes narrowly elliptic to very narrowly elliptic, subfalcate or falcate, 7–18 cm long, 6–25 mm wide, glabrous, 3–7 longitudinal veins prominent, numerous longitudinally anastomosing minor veins between, apex acute or subacute with a mucro; 1 inconspicuous gland at base; pulvinus 1–5 mm long. Inflorescences 4–8 in an axillary raceme; axis usually 2–6 cm long; peduncles 6–13 mm long, finely hairy; heads globose, 30–50-flowered, 5–10 mm diam., pale yellow to ± white. Pods curved to twisted or coiled, raised over seeds, barely to slightly or variably more deeply constricted between seeds, 6–20 cm long, 4–7 mm wide, firmly papery to leathery, ± smooth, glabrous, often slightly pruinose; seeds longitudinal; funicle whitish, folded below seed. We need some reproductive material for a lock, but I think implexa she be. I also read that stock have died from ingestion of green pods and that leaves were used by aborigines as a fish poison.

Touch is your friend. Run your fingers down the margin of the phyllode. Obtusi will be rough and textured. I don't know what "resinous" means, but basically, the margins of obtusi phyllodes have texture, they are rough, uneven. Look carefully at shruman's pics and you will see that every phyllode has this textured margin. Try searching for pics on some other obtusi threads too. The pics of your tree show uniformly smooth margins. If I ran my finger along the phyllode edge I'm pretty sure they'd be rather smooth and continuous. Also, the feel of an obtusi phyllode is leathery and thick. Not flexible like a lot of the other acacias. Obviously, these are comparative references that you don't truly appreciate till you've experienced them first hand, so the confusion is understandable. If the South Coast variety/subspecies/form/morph of Acacia obtusifolia lacks rough margins and has weeping phyllodes then it is an unpublished, unrecognized difference. More likely I would think is that you have a different species. Which makes your observations of its geometry very interesting. More photos!

Not sure what she is but obtusi she ain't. The phyllode margins on this one are smooth - they lack the withering found on obtusi. The phyllodes on this tree mostly hang or tend towards hanging. Obtusi phyllodes are erect. Sure, some phyllode characters are very variable, such as width and shape, but in my opinion, these two characters haven't varied on any of the obtusi I have ever seen. Granted I've not seen obtusi from every part of its range.

I'd like to get along to visit Urban Tribes nursery tomorrow. Can anyone give me contact details so I can get in touch with them? The number on the website appears to be disconnected... If not tomorrow, then hopefully sometime in the next couple of weeks. Please PM if you can provide contact details. M

Great article. Very comprehensive. I'd be very interested to try Piracatem and Modafinil. Would also be very interested to see your paper faustus. Keep me posted. Could even proof read it for you!

Wow! It's your birthday! Happy birthday fella. Let me buy you a W&P treat soon. M

Ok, unsure if I read the first post close enough Thanks man, but I can't really justify laying out that money for rare stamen right now. I just wanted to relive a bit of the sargol buzz.

Will this stuff be up to scratch with the Sargol gear SAB used to sell? That's the only benchmark I really have. Also, what sort of quantities are you looking for people to buy? I'm interested but wouldn't want too much and that may not be useful to you if you're trying to kick a bulk order above threshold.

Looking to trade for or purchase... Established plants: Artemisia absinthum Melissa officianalis Hyssop officianalis Dried herb: Acorus calamus root Liquorice root Just bought wormwood and melissa from SAB but wouldn't say no to another nice specimen ready to spring into spring. Let me know if you can help out.

Sounds like yours are OOOOOLD, ThunderIdeal.

Well it's Acacia for sure but not Phleb. Phleb's inflorescences are spikes and is restricted to Mount Buffalo, VIC. This might be A. melanoxylon but that's a bit of a stab in the dark from me without more info and a key.

I don't usually get excited about fruit... but the Mangosteen! Fuck me. Fruit of the Gods.