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#1 Gimli

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:06 PM

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There has been considerable talk already about 3 aussies wanting to return home after fighting in the middle east, 2 were associated with ISIS, the 3rd with Jabhat al-Nusra.

 

Do you think they should be allowed to return ?

 

Thoughts/opinions ?


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:32 PM

as much as i hate to agree with Tony Abbott I say fuck 'em. 


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 10:13 PM

Sure lets roll out the red carpet and giv'em a medal.
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Posted 19 May 2015 - 10:36 PM

Cancel their passports. Leave them in limbo. 


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 12:38 AM

Feed em' to the penguins.
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Posted 20 May 2015 - 08:40 AM

I'm sure they'll get whisked away and pumped for intelligence.
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Posted 20 May 2015 - 10:45 AM

I say fuck them and the camels they rode in on.

 

We hear all about moves to establish sharia law in Australia which must seem like utopia to a religious zealot. When they actually go and live it for a while they can't handle it want to come back home.

 

If they do come back home they will be heroes in lakemba and be showered with gifts and financial benefits that the taxman doesn't know about.

 

They will be fastracked through the housing racket muslims have going and probably own several properties each within a few years.


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 11:46 AM

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This is youth, this is the brain not fully developed, this is addiction, this is chemical imbalance.


Are religeous fanatics any different than drug addicts or substance abusers........

What are their ages, where have they been, what have they done?
Surely these are all questions that need to be answered before these people are condemned.

Also what responsibility does the government and their families hold in this situation......a lot.
Freedom of information has a cost.

Are we to beleive sensationalist and bias news reports, ones we have to pay for or not.
Read a story the other day bout a light plane crash in qld, in the morning their were 6+ people dead, bodies everywhere, devastation, grief etc.......all the emotive sensationalism that's sells, sells, sells.
By the arvo it was one person dead, sadly, the pilot as he was the only person on the plane.

This also is won't be an Australian only thing, let's not forget this large country is a blip on the map, nothing more, a blip, just.
There will be precedents allready in other countries far bigger and with far more influence and economic power than little australia.

So before we make a decision lets get all the facts, let's educate ourselves fully on whats going on before we start kissing the Aussie flag

and what do you think Gimli?
starting a thread such as this, its allways good to get the opinon of the op.

Edited by pimento, 20 May 2015 - 11:48 AM.

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Posted 20 May 2015 - 02:00 PM

My daughter said... " What if they just want to return to blow something up in Australia ?!" .


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 03:14 PM

It would probably be in the best interest of everyone to bring them back, take them around mosques, schools, places where marginalised youth are likely to be recruited and get them to speak about what it's actually like. It might prevent more kids being sacked into this problem.
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Posted 20 May 2015 - 04:12 PM

as nice as it would be to just cancel their citizenship.    We can't make them into someone elses problem.  its kind of iresponsible to  dump them on another country.   If they don't get killed anytime soon....

 

 

make sure the laws are in place first,

let them back in,

prosecute them,

interrogate them and learn what can be learnt,

and 'rehabilitate'  them into not being radicals. 

 

 then...

 

 hopefully reduce the number of disenfranchised youths turning to radical Islam.  

 

I shouldn't make light of it, but when you read some of the stories of the radicalised fighters traveling OS to fight the holy war...  however grateful the ISIS leaders must think its pretty funny when the likes of the ginger Jihadi rock up to fight. 

 

 

 

 edit:  What Glaukus said.!


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 09:12 PM

interogation transcript.

 

 

Asio:- so tell us about ISIS

 

poor young kid:- well its just a dozen guys with an old hilux with an old 50cal bolted to it and a few bent rusty old sks rifles. Its no where near as exciting as the news made it sound. Its not even worth Australia having a war over there...

 

Asio:- SO you found out the truth, off to guantanamo with you !


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 09:38 PM

Feed them to pigs
-just because replies haven't been thick n fast in the affirmative to your theorizing , doesn't necessaily mean no-one here cares or understands you , or even that they're asleep because they're not arguing your point the way you see the world and how each paradigm fits into that. I've read so many wondefully worded and DEEP shit on sab over the years, that it rivals published works in some cases.....bloody not as dry that's for shiz. Personally, i'd say, some people here know what you are saying, have probably explored the presented ideas in their own time previously but naturally, would rather, skip, run, twirl and dance to the beat of their own drum when it comes to these matters. So just because someone for example, does not want to fill in a space on your dance card, does not mean that you should stop airing your views for discussion. How many times does a thread metamorphosize like some organic creature flapping it's wings for the first time here in sabland.... and in the end -the seeker finds at the very least- some answers to their question. Alot of the time you need to knead that dough thoroughly before it's ready for the oven tin. -quote from etherealdrifter

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 08:36 AM

This is what happens when you smoke to many hookah pipes kids!
..............9v Battery.................. On the Tongue......................................... Thats Science.
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Monkeys and Rats.................. Totally defenceless to our torture.......... Thats priceless.

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 04:44 PM

i can understand why young men and woman get suckered in to going over there the way aussies segregate young Muslims with their pathetic hate..If I got treated like some of these guys I would fucking go over there too. Misguided faith in humanity has obviously open their eyes. They could be very useful and helpful. Let them back in


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 06:11 PM

I couldn't care any less what ISIS does or anyone associated with it.

 

As long as there is some overt opposition to America and it's way of life i'm happy.


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 08:23 PM

I got told that a lot of rangas are converting to Muslim .Due to that red hair is normal and the Muslims and

they don't tease these genetic masterpieces .So would be funny to see a heap of ranga isis members .



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Posted Yesterday, 05:22 AM

It would probably be in the best interest of everyone to bring them back, take them around mosques, schools, places where marginalised youth are likely to be recruited and get them to speak about what it's actually like. It might prevent more kids being sacked into this problem.

 

i'm not sure anyone's seriously suggesting they be let back in to roam amongst the community unchecked. and if there's no pathway to return once the reality of living under paranoid barbarians hits then there's no incentive for anyone to stop fighting. i can understand the reluctance to let anyone of them in the country but does it help more to bring them under control (for intelligence/anti radicalisation measures) or is it better to leave them out in the "wild" so to speak? it seems most politicians and the public don't have a sense that the biggest recruiting tool these people have is the actions of western governments themselves, now not only do they have a recruiting tool but they have a means to retain converts as well.


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Posted Yesterday, 03:48 PM

interogation transcript.

 

 

Asio:- so tell us about ISIS

 

poor young kid:- well its just a dozen guys with an old hilux with an old 50cal bolted to it and a few bent rusty old sks rifles. Its no where near as exciting as the news made it sound. Its not even worth Australia having a war over there...

 

Asio:- SO you found out the truth, off to guantanamo with you !

 

 

 I think they ship you off to Guantanamo before they ask any questions.   then 18 months later when you can't remember if your coming or going then start asking..  ;) 


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Posted Yesterday, 05:20 PM

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. If you cast them aside, who knows where they'll end up...

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Posted Yesterday, 05:37 PM

I couldn't care any less what ISIS does or anyone associated with it.

 

As long as there is some overt opposition to America and it's way of life i'm happy.

 

not sure exactly what you're saying here chief. 

 

syria was probably doing a lot more to stifle american dominance and as far as i can tell so far IS has only given america the cover they need to lob bombs at key targets in syria.


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Posted Today, 12:21 AM

I think we need to find out why/how young muslims are being lured into fighting and then stopping it at the source, These ones might have that info.



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Posted Today, 11:12 AM

Do you think they should be allowed to return Gimli?

thoughts/opinions.............
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