Prophet Posted June 23, 2006 Do you mind sharing the aproximate altitude? I guess it makes sense that they could grow well in a valley which would provide dark, cool, moist conditions I'm not sure the exact altitude but i'm guessing it was around 500 metres. Probably around half as high as the top of Springbrook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyAmine. Posted June 23, 2006 if there was ever a time in the last 5 years to go looking for them it would have to be right now! With the wet summer, sharp cold snap over the last few months and the last week of constant heavy rain, its a green light for sure. The rains is meant to be clearing up over the next day or two so I would get down there this weekend, I probabaly wont make it because of prior comitments but I look forward to getting some vicarious thrills from you guys... LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-YT- Posted June 25, 2006 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.p...889/an/0/page/0 Check it out the 2006 SA Season thread its about 11 pages long with alot of good photos and documentation of Mushrooms. Has been very productive so far this season :D Peace n Happy Hunting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francois le Danque Posted June 28, 2006 (edited) HOLY MACARONEY! check this thing out! this is a damn large sub (is it a sub? i think it is) pictured next to my inspector rex ( ) dvd for comparison. and yes, this is another very low quality picture from my terrible digital camera. it's a pity some bug beat me to this one, it's had a nibble taken out the side. Edited June 28, 2006 by frank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaman Posted June 28, 2006 hmmm that doesnt really look like a sub to me.....but i really know nothing about shrooms i hope for your sake it is Ive been finding subs the last couple of days its been goooood happy hunting all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francois le Danque Posted June 28, 2006 well it is staining blue.....if they stain blue, does this DEFINITELY mean that they're psilocybian? because it seems to me that although the samples i find do in fact stain blue, they all have different characteristics. some are yellow, some are brown, some are ten times the size of others. how are these all the same species? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ballzac Posted June 29, 2006 It's not a good idea to go solely by the staining, although I have no idea if there are poisonous species that stain blue, and in Victoria I certainly haven't come across anything that stains blue in a similar fashion to the way subs do, that are not subs. I basically see it from above, and if it looks like a sub, I pick it up and and look for bluing in the stem and purple-brown spores covering the top of the stem. The gill colour is good indicator too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaman Posted June 29, 2006 ahh k i didnt see the blue staining in the pic...my mistake mate. Nice find....sure is a big fucker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet Posted June 29, 2006 I didn't find any subs on the weekend in Qld (maybe because of drought?) even after all that rain. Same spot i found them last year. But i did find a few edibles which was good. I was just curious to find some more subs but it didn't happen. I found a large patch of Suillus luteus in northern NSW under pines which was good Need to do some more introductions into Qld. This was my first time eating them and they tasted better than i expected. I think they are underated as an edible. They taste similar to oyster mushrooms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francois le Danque Posted June 29, 2006 well my large marge is definitely blueing.....in the same places as my other subs, and the gills are the same colour. i'm going to assume it's a sub. there's not poisonous ones that look muc like it. howver i dont think i'll eat it. that would be illegal of course! happy hunting for the rest of winter everyone! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alkatrope Posted June 29, 2006 Yeah just from that pic I wouldn't doubt it being a Sub. Just has a fat stem, you get that sometimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerbil Posted June 30, 2006 Had a quick last minute decision hunt with hebrew the other day, good to catch up with you again mate Also checked a small river section the following day with good luck, found a fresh 'roo leg aswell, bloody foxes. Found a specimen around about 17cm long poking out of the grass. baby and mature Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francois le Danque Posted June 30, 2006 nice finds gerbil ....that second one is very similar to my monster....it just didn't show the blueing very well in my picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerbil Posted June 30, 2006 well it is staining blue.....if they stain blue, does this DEFINITELY mean that they're psilocybian? because it seems to me that although the samples i find do in fact stain blue, they all have different characteristics. some are yellow, some are brown, some are ten times the size of others. how are these all the same species? I'd say no about the bluing aspect, yes it's an indicator of active species and a good one at that, but I wouldn't solely rely on it. The Australian/world fungi are very understudied so who knows what's out there. Identification must be on many different levels. I'm constantly thrown by the variation subaeruginosa occurs with, even regarding smell. It can be very frustrating but fascinating at the same time. Environmental influences seem to play a huge role, particularly climatic, as well as phenotypic variation i'd imagine. here's the long skinny sub, the picture doesn't do it justice though. (of course that's what they all say ) After taking the photo I realised the ID and out of such shock regarding legal matters it was luckily thrusted in the river, swept away from destroying our civilisation, oh won't somebody think of the children!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptAmazing Posted June 30, 2006 You might try cutting/squeezing mushrooms off at the stems next time too, so you don't rip a nasty hole out of the substrate. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm just trying to look out for your patch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiders Posted June 30, 2006 subs are yum- and those are tasty subs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moses Posted June 30, 2006 any guess what this is ? it's definitely blue and its spore print is a tan/light brown colour lenght was about 3 inch stem 10mm thick found top of hill among leaf litter first hunt for the year two minutes into the forest and there they were,you couldnt miss the blue it was so intense you can see them in the top right hand of this pic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hebrew Posted July 1, 2006 nice one gerbil was a nice day :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul-searching Posted July 1, 2006 (edited) I have no idea what those bright blue mushies are..but i come accross them regularly and whilst they are blue, have never found one that stains blue from bruising. do they BRUISE blue when you pinch them? ..whatever they are, they are everywhere around the blue mountains atm. almost too slimy too pick up! Could they be poisonous anyone? Edited July 1, 2006 by soul-searching Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stiched up Posted July 1, 2006 beutifull cyanescens?? (sorry bout the size) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stiched up Posted July 1, 2006 I have no idea what those bright blue mushies are..but i come accross them regularly and whilst they are blue, have never found one that stains blue from bruising. do they BRUISE blue when you pinch them? ..whatever they are, they are everywhere around the blue mountains atm. almost too slimy too pick up! Could they be poisonous anyone? slimey fat stemed almost purple?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stiched up Posted July 1, 2006 Nooooooooooooooo, may the mushrooms have mercy on you !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted July 1, 2006 (edited) The fat blue ones with rusty prints are Cortinarius thats a C rotundisporus DO NOT EAT THESE! http://fungimap.rbg.vic.gov.au/fsp/sp021.html shit picture also fungimap doesnt seem to have been updated in 5 years.... whatchall think of these?? any ideas on identity? Edited July 1, 2006 by Rev Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul-searching Posted July 1, 2006 any guess what this is ?it's definitely blue and its spore print is a tan/light brown colour lenght was about 3 inch stem 10mm thick found top of hill among leaf litter first hunt for the year two minutes into the forest and there they were,you couldnt miss the blue it was so intense you can see them in the top right hand of this pic Thank you rev, ive been wandering about these mushrooms as i keep finding them and they look beautiful to photograph in the wild. I found some info regarding toxicity, but am not sure whether the info is correct...cause im a noob "There are close to one thousand species, some of which are quite large. And unlike other groups of conspicuous living things in the temperate world, many Cortinarius mushrooms have never been characterized and named by science. Because the group is so large, it might take more than one lifetime to completely study, categorize, and name all these mushrooms. But since scientific interest and funds today focus on biotechnology, not biodiversity, this has not happened yet. Toxicity When I first began learning about mushrooms in 1980, some Cortinarius mushrooms were edible, others were poisonous. The poisonous ones were slightly toxic to the kidneys. But the kidneys removed the poison from the bloodstream. Unfortunately, instead of excreting the toxin in the urine, the kidneys return the poison to the blood, enduring an unnoticeably small amount of damage that doesn't manifest itself for several weeks, when kidney failure ensues! Since then, there's been evidence that all Cortinarius species might have some of this toxin, so even the ones that people had been eating without obvious ill effects are suspect. Because of possible fatal kidney damage, because many of the species are so difficult to identify, and because many of the species are still unknown, you should avoid eating all Cortinarius mushrooms." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moses Posted July 1, 2006 i'll second that thanks rev never considered eatin them(thought the bluing was too convenient to be useful) just amazed at the intensity of the colour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites