Torsten Posted November 22, 2005 http://www.thebricktestament.com/index.html this is quite a stunning piece of propaganda. This particular page finally makes sense to me. God needs us to be ignorant and dumb for us to enjoy paradise. Kinda makes sense:"ignorance is bliss". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted November 22, 2005 It depends on how you interpret that tho doesnt it? If it were just 'dont eat from the tree of knowledge' I'd agree but "the tree of knowledge of good and evil" is quite different. From a buddhist perspective this would be interpreted as saying that once we start applying preconceived notions and fixed views to vaguely lable things 'good' and 'evil' we are no longer seeing things as they are but seeing our illusory oversimplified prejudices and generalizations. Wrong views and wrong understanding are quite inherently sources of unsatisfactoriness and suffering and are the cause of much of the conflict we encounter both within ourselfs and with others. One example: When an isreali says 'those palistinians are evil ' there can be no clear understanding and peace and innocent people that just wanna make their way through life without conflict get crushed in a stampede of hatred. Wow! I agreed with the bible! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted November 23, 2005 I agree. But that's not what the christian religions have made of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amulte Posted November 23, 2005 all the good ones but no Revelations?!?!? if id have paid of it i would feel ripped off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willbe Posted November 23, 2005 Whys God always look so angry?!? http://www.thebricktestament.com/genesis/g...n/gn02_21a.html http://www.thebricktestament.com/genesis/g...n/gn02_07c.html Hehe...Can u imagine how a lego version of revelations would look?! Id like to see that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green Osiris Posted November 23, 2005 Finally a wholesome influence for the children. God bless you, lego. This may reverse the satanic influence that Disney movies have on the littl'uns, as described here. We might also see the end of such 'demonic natured' toys, such as the >>> jar jar binks candy <<< Get behind thee ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faustus Posted November 23, 2005 yikes! don't know what to make of this one Genesis 25:26 Then his brother was born, with his hand grasping Esau's heel, so they named him Jacob. still, it's interesting, have never been one to read the bible. this god character does seem like one pretty bitter guy: Yahweh God said, 'The man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must be prevented from reaching out his hand to take from the tree of life, lest he eat from it and also live forever!' Therefore Yahweh God sent him away from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he was taken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted November 23, 2005 I wonder where they get these twisted figurines? I guess if you can get "Christian Homeloans" then it's only fair enough that you can also buy "Bible Lego". How can god be eternal love and peace if he is such a bitter and vindictive prick. No wonder they thought they deserved katrina Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
occidentalis Posted November 24, 2005 I particularly like it how Yahweh God has a plastic mould line running down the middle of his head . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benzito Posted November 24, 2005 I agree. But that's not what the christian religions have made of it. Ahhh Torsten, now you are falling into the same trap as the current 'Muslim Bashers' are. Just because some muslim cultures oppress women, people say "The Koran teaches hatred of women", which couldn't be further from the truth. I could interpret Trout's notes as an anti-homosexual doctrine, but it doesn't mean I'm right! I hate most of the 'Christian' organised religions, but don't blame their behaviour on the bible itself. They are still humans, with free will, no matter what some book says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conan Troutman Posted November 24, 2005 Reuben's Incest, Noah's Insobriety and The Seduction of Lot... who would have thought the bible could be such fun? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted November 24, 2005 Ahhh Torsten, now you are falling into the same trap as the current 'Muslim Bashers' are. Just because some muslim cultures oppress women, people say "The Koran teaches hatred of women", which couldn't be further from the truth. My criticism is of religions, not of the bible. I don't know the bible well enough to have an informed opinion, but I have encountered various religions and have formed opinions on some of them. However, a book that advocates stoning of people can't be a true testament (pardon the pun) of love and peace. I could interpret Trout's notes as an anti-homosexual doctrine, but it doesn't mean I'm right! You could also interpret Trout's Notes as gay porn (with all those columnar cacti ), but I think you would still not be right ^_^ I hate most of the 'Christian' organised religions, but don't blame their behaviour on the bible itself. They are still humans, with free will, no matter what some book says. I know very little about the bible, but from what I have read, it contains things that are designed to induce fear and submission rather than love peace and fulfillment. If that is what people need then fine, but I think we as the human race cannot move forward until we release ourselves from these shackles and take FULL responsibility for all our actions and their consequences. I think monotheistic religions are the biggest step backwards in human evolution. Some might argue that they tempered a brutal and immoral society, but I wonder how they can say that with the immense amount of brutality that is around these days. Once we dismiss that notion there is little positive that monotheistic religions have done for us. It's time to move on. And while the bible does not equal a particular religion, it does form the basis of several of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benzito Posted November 24, 2005 You could also interpret Trout's Notes as gay porn (with all those columnar cacti ), but I think you would still not be right ^_^ You could also interpret the bible as gay porn: LOL, take it bitch! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teonanacatl Posted November 24, 2005 hahahahahahaahahaaaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green Osiris Posted November 24, 2005 A big problem with many religions is the despicable suffering they inflict upon others in the name of their 'god'. Benz, while you make a point about anti-christians being no better than 'muslim-bashers', I should point out that the warmonger of the moment, Bushka, has often made reference to 'doing gods duty'... didnt he even go so far as to tell a media conference that his god TOLD him to 'save the world' from (alleged) world terrorism threats? That ol' Bush Family nemesis Saddam didn't go around making statements pertaining to his god, or that the mission he had to undertake was in the name of islam. In fact, I seem to recall that the Iraqi Prime Minister is actually a christian ! I find it unlikely that the reverse will be seen, with top people in the whitehouse being muslim. I think christianity has more to answer for than islam ever will. While MOST muslims are truly fundamentalist in adherence to their faith, there's not too many that would voice (or even feel) an outright opposition to another ideal, as so many christians do. Ask many muslims (I have) about the bible, and the answer seems to be "yea, that's all good too". I think the koran even credits jesus as 'a' messiah of Allah - just not the 'last' ie mohammad, which seems to be more important. In these narrow-minded monotheistic belief systems based on irrelevant fable, there's always room for interpretive differences. But why stop at the big three ? Polytheism isn't any better in this regard, they just share the love between many gods ! And how many takes on Hinduism are there ? Thousands, I think. But the Hare Krsnas do great meals at the temple, so if I HAD to align with some group, my stomach shall lead my soul to eternity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted November 24, 2005 I think the important difference with polytheistic religions is that they allow and encourage diversity. By praying to different gods people in a community learn to be tolerant of their neighbours slightly different faith. Also, polytheistic religions bear a closer relationship with nature. In many belief systems (incl most shamanistic cultures) the various gods are simply representatives or embodiements of natural forces (ie 'the elements'). To me it makes little difference if someone pays respect to the fertile earth or prefers to pray to the god of the fertile earth. Both have a reverence for nature and develop a connection and hence a responsibility. I see religions as a crutch. I understand that many people need it, and maybe humanity isn't ready for total responsibility. But the move to the abstract monotheistic religions that use guilt and fear as a tool of obedience seems nothing short of ridiculous to me, which is why I don't think we can advance as a human race unless we grow out of the need for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hagakure Posted November 24, 2005 i cant beleive no one has posted this classic yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puffingfish Posted November 24, 2005 Ummm Green Osiris...what is with that site you posted - I thought it was dead serious until I got to the end of the page and noticed the 'What would Jesus do' Thong ...surely they are taking the piss I nearly clicked to get my ultimate stocking stuffer.....now if that doesn't have satanically sexual undertones I'm not sure what is... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2b Posted November 24, 2005 I'm with Amulte on Revelations no Leviticus , none of the good stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green Osiris Posted November 24, 2005 QUID: Ummm Green Osiris...what is with that site you posted - I thought it was dead serious until I got to the end of the page and noticed the 'What would Jesus do' Thong ...surely they are taking the piss Yeah :D The Landover Baptist Church have been taking the piss out of the christian faith for years. Deliverance of parody is often hard too see at first. QUIXOTE: I see religions as a crutch. I understand that many people need it, and maybe humanity isn't ready for total responsibility. Same arguement for the concept of anarchy. We're just not ready to live without leaders**. It's a shame that society is d-evolving due to an overwhemingly exposed existance to a commercial, consumerist sunshine that never sets. Shop online, while 'synergising' with some popular video clip of the week, while texting your pals, signing up for 'special offers', watching Xtreme-sports, ads, ads, ads, push push push, in your face. In the world of our new god, the filthy lucre is obeyed without questioning the origin of the post-consumerist purchases. The lucre is paramount over any faith, and not surprisingly most (individual) modern christian faiths wallow in it, either through congregational tithes (ie how the J W's stay aloft), big business ventures (*cough*weetbix*), fete toffees, whatever. The basic tenants of both the bible & the koran (after an extraction tek) is simply "Be good to your fellow man". Ultimately, that's cool. Shame that so much other crap gets in the way. Watch this space for forthcoming rant on poly faith. Peace & Picnic Blankets, Uncle Osiris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chilli Posted November 27, 2005 Hey, I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact that people took this seriously and got uptight, or the guy who created it... Behold, the most Most Highly Exalted Reverend Brendan Powell Smith: His website has a different hilarious picture and subtitle every time you refresh it... I'm up to 60 so far, and its still going. Check it out at www.thereverend.com The "Bible" is not a single book, but a collation of at least 66 texts written by different authors over many centuries, it contains various kinds of literature, all with different messages and objectives, and so any attempt to treat it as a book with a single specific message or theme is facile at best. Torsten, it seems to me that to speak so vehemently about something you admit a basic ignorance of is quite arrogant, and somewhat hypocritical in comparison to your subsequent post wherein you espouse tolerance and understanding of other faiths as desirable virtues. I have known some Christians who were horrible people, and some who were amongst the greatest people I've met, but the vast majority are just ordinary people like you or I, trying to make sense of the world... likewise, I have known Atheists, Polytheists and Agnostics who meet the same criteria. I'm sorry if I am coming over as harsh or unduly critical, but I'm seeing some very simplistic arguments here which seem like attempts to dress up ugly prejiduces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devance Posted December 12, 2005 "My criticism is of religions, not of the bible. I don't know the bible well enough to have an informed opinion, but I have encountered various religions and have formed opinions on some of them" -------- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chilli Posted December 12, 2005 Well Devance, seeing as you only quoted Torsten without adding anythings yourself, I can only assume you are trying to defend Torsten by showing where his comment differs from what I said, but you didn't quote him in entirety. In fact the part of his post I was referring to is this: "I know very little about the bible, but from what I have read, it contains things that are designed to induce fear and submission rather than love peace and fulfillment. If that is what people need then fine, but I think we as the human race cannot move forward until we release ourselves from these shackles and take FULL responsibility for all our actions and their consequences. I think monotheistic religions are the biggest step backwards in human evolution. Some might argue that they tempered a brutal and immoral society, but I wonder how they can say that with the immense amount of brutality that is around these days. Once we dismiss that notion there is little positive that monotheistic religions have done for us. It's time to move on. And while the bible does not equal a particular religion, it does form the basis of several of them." Not only does he admit to a basic ignorance of the Bible, he then goes on to offer his opinions on its content. Fair enough, he includes the qualifier "from what I have read," but it strikes me as someone having seen the movie "Romeo + Juliet" attempting a critique of the works of Shakespeare. Do you have any quotes you can copy and paste in repsonse to my other comments regarding prejiduce, intolerance and hypocrisy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devance Posted December 12, 2005 "My criticism is of religions, not of the bible. I don't know the bible well enough to have an informed opinion, but I have encountered various religions and have formed opinions on some of them"-------- Pretty obvious from his Torsten standpoint and experiience and historica ananlysis and expressed atheist viewpoint it going take reproducible and recorded facts.. But Torsten with slightest bit of actual video proof won't have to be like Houdenii or the Sherlock Holmes writer which was 19th centuary investigation of hoaxs with without 21st centuary technology.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites