nabraxas Posted September 28, 2005 i once had a fling w/a girl who wanted me to tie her to the bed. "why?" i asked "because it turns me on really hard when a man has absolute control over me" she said i was abit unsure about all that kinky stuff, so i let it pass; but she kept on at me to tie her down. so one day i said ok. she was thrilled. as i gently secured her arms & legs she had a mile wide smile on her face. when i'd finished she was tied down naked, spread eagled & totally thrilled---then i got dressed. the smile fell off her face real quick "what are you doing?" "well i really fancy a beer & seeing as you like men to be in total control, i thought i'd leave you tied up here while i went & had a few" i could still hear her screaming obscenities halfway down the street... [ 28. September 2005, 02:06: Message edited by: nabraxas ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandjina Posted September 28, 2005 [ 28. September 2005, 02:06: Message edited by: nabraxas ] what exactly did you edit out here? *LOL* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nabraxas Posted September 28, 2005 that's for me to know & you to guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legba Posted September 28, 2005 ya give em wat they want 'n ya still get screamed at :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benzito Posted September 28, 2005 Everyone enjoys a bit of light bondage don't they? Some just prefer it a little more hard-core than others.? Who doesn't enjoy being tied up by someone they *trust* and teased? Maybe not beaten, or spanked, but to let someone you have total faith in take control can be a real turn-on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasemateau Posted September 28, 2005 sounds like the species of woman. did you drink the beeers in the same room she was tied up in? i would have sat there, perhaps even suggested another session, SHE did asked you to tie her up, and take what you want. i had a german girl that used to bite HARD while we were at the job. gave me the shit's when she drew blood. fucking vampire!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandjina Posted September 28, 2005 sounds like the species of woman. wtf is that supposed to mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benzito Posted September 28, 2005 Yeah, what does THAT mean? As a heterosexual man, who happens to love women, I take offence at that comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandjina Posted September 28, 2005 here here! I'm starting to get the impression there's a few misogynists here. Sounds like some may be out of touch with their feminine sides... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benzito Posted September 28, 2005 I like touching my feminine side, if you know what i mean. Wait, now I'm sounding like the rest of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandjina Posted September 28, 2005 heheh... This topic reminds me of something a male FOAF told me several years back. He'd observed dozens, if not a few hundred, people under the influence of DMT, and on the basis of this direct experience, concluded that the humans that had the hardest time with it were cocky young men with 'mother' issues (i.e. 'not in touch with their feminine/ 'yin' side'). I'm no femi-nazi,nor a prude, but I'm surprised by some of the attitude here... As far as I'm concerned bondage - great, porn - no wuckers, but implicitly derogatory sexist comments, well you can jam them up your arse. Perhaps i was naive to think 'we' were above this kind of infantile bullshit. I suppose sexual sterotypes are hard for some to transcend. But then , I could explain this apparent lack of intelligence/heart as being due to the fact that the male of our species is genetically deficient- missing a quarter of a chromosome. But that would be sexist wouldn't it? [ 28. September 2005, 04:13: Message edited by: wandjina ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted September 28, 2005 You're not the only one to have complained about comments like some of the ones in this thread wandjina Some of us just use just use the "Report Post" feature (no I'm not suggesting you do that, in fact, I prefer your public deflation ) instead. 'We' as a term will always have a few black sheep, or bad apples, or whatever, but the rest of us try and make up for it. Happy belated bday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandjina Posted September 28, 2005 cheers apo! I too prefer public deflation *L*, in part because i strongly oppose censorship...people should be able to say whatever the fuck they want, even if others think its a load of crap. I agree that, thankfully, there appear to only be a few 'bad apples'...and they probably couldn't find a better place to stop the rot. Judging people because of their gender is an easy thing to do, but people who make sweeping generalisations and assumptions about women, or men, reveal themselves as ignorant and prejudiced. Whilst I'm happy these individuals seem to be a minority, I wish them all the best in resolving their underlying fear and/or anger at women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasemateau Posted September 28, 2005 can say one thing and mean another, this what i meant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dracos6 Posted September 28, 2005 roflmfao, nice one nabraxas :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dodie Posted September 28, 2005 I woulda drank the beers while doing the deed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted September 28, 2005 one of my buddies (he's a teacher)told me an aboriginal woman asked him whilst they had sex, to be her matster and to demand "things" of her and tieing her up. but he could not do it, and he even suddenly got a limp donger, haha. i like that one: the man act's like a massage therapist, but than suddenly ties her up. they do it and all is fantastic, and once he is off for a tooheys or two, he say's, as you have been a goood girl i will tie a dildo on your right foot and put on some porn, so you can stay in heat whils i am gone. ther is nothing wrong with this type of fantasies, as they have the advantage for the woman, not to have to take responcebilety for there doing, and as such climax much easier. orgasm problems can be caused by guilt, so if ther is no way to fend the man off, the girl avoids the quilt issue. the guilt comes from the fact that girls are told, not to play with there yoni, or not to allowe man to play with her and so on. those false morals are hard to remove as they are deeply embedded, so the fantasy act's as a quick fix, to overcome the mistakes of the parents and society. but naturally it only works as a fantasy, no woman want's to get realy raped and/or degraded!!! btw, mild asphixication (or holding your breath) does enhance the orgasm... gee, my ex liked it when i posed as gang banger's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandjina Posted September 28, 2005 yeah,sorry for hijacking your post nabraxas....but I think this is important material. Although part of me found it funny,i can't condone what you did to your gf ...I have to be honest here, I find this sad. Do you guys really think this is how people, women particularly, deserve to be treated? Sure, she wanted to be tied up, but you would have to be an idiot to think she wanted to be left alone tied to the bed. Alternatively, to think that she deserved such treatment sounds alot like the kind of argument some people use to justify rape 'she was asking for it'... If a woman expresses her sexuality openly, or likes kinky sex and askes for it, does it mean she forfits her right to be treated with respect? Are girls who like rough or kinky sex sluts, and thus should be treated as such? This story may sound funny, but no one seems to have any empathy for the anger of the girl involved. It disturbs me that deriding women is seems to be being encouraged here, that's it's funny or silly when women are upset. Some of you are probably thinking what an emotional pain in the arse girl i'm being, or maybe I'm saying something you'd rather not face, perhaps it's easier to see me as over reacting and make this about my 'issues', or make it all a joke...but I think there is something dark here, something deep inside of some of you that relates to how you really feel about women, and ultimately how you really feel about yourself. [ 28. September 2005, 07:14: Message edited by: wandjina ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hagakure Posted September 28, 2005 cant say i have ever got into bondage or have had a strong desire to but while seeing what all the fuss was about a while ago i accidently stumbled upon shibari. http://www.nawashibari.com/techniques/index02.html looks fascinating. i guess im a fan of anything where there is an element of mastery - a skill to be developed and perfected. shibari - when boy scouts go bad :D to add some fuel to the whole man vs women debate in here this is another funny story http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/60286784.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2b Posted September 28, 2005 quote: "Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition." -Timothy Leary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nabraxas Posted September 29, 2005 Wandjina---ok, i took some poetic licence here. everything i posted was true, but i didn't actually goto the pub, i just hung outside listening to her scream for 5 minutes or so, then headed back inside to relieve her. Do you guys really think this is how people, women particularly, deserve to be treated? it was meant to be an amusing story about a practical joke i pulled once, i was abit drunk & appologise for posting it & causing offence. I like touching my feminine side --on another note, anyone been watching "Drawn Together" on SBS monday night, after South Park? this weeks show included the unforgetable line "This vagina could do w/a womans touch"---how we laffed---guess you'd have had to have seen it to get the humor---well worth a viewing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benzito Posted September 29, 2005 Yeah, drawn together is a weird show: "Lalalala Labia Baby you got nothing on meeeee" But, I agree with Wandjina, far too many of my 'real-world' mates talk in a derogatory manner of women. They go out 'clubbing', and they 'pick-up', and then they brind the girl home and then they 'ride her hard' and some of them even secretly tape themselves performing degrading acts so they can all laugh at it later. It makes me sick that anyone can view another human as somehow having different needs, or desires, to themselves. Well, I guess we do all have different needs, but some people(men, mainly) think that it is only their needs that should be met. The most turned on I've ever been is when I have my partner moaning in ecstasy, because I am satisfying their every need. THAT is when you are a real human, when you cast all your own needs aside, for someone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandjina Posted September 29, 2005 I'm very glad to hear that nabraxas, and as I said, part of me did find it amusing. *passes peace pipe* All is well & Benzito...what you have written is heartening This and the some of the posts on the SEX thread are excellent IMO. 'Macho' 'men' don't (or rather can't) know what they're missing out on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mescalito Posted September 29, 2005 Good one nab just read the thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted September 29, 2005 LOL Benzito it is not nice how some guys make objects of women but ill tell u women do it too! I have a bunch of female friends and many a night spent drinking with them i must have blended in and they spoke openly and they ceratinly know what they want, and frequently get more of it than my male friends! why do you think sex in the city was so popular? sex politics is a quagmire everyones doin everthing to everybody its just one big grey zone submissives should know they are going to get walked on. They obviously like it that way or they wouldnt be submissives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
