Very Cool Hybrid Trich- What do you think it is?

[Getafix]

Acquired this beautiful trich cutting today. Have a lot of hybrids in the garden but not one quite like this.

I think it is some sort of Terscheckii or Validus x, what do you guys and girls think?

Cheers

Getafix

Edited November 14, 2013 by Getafix

[mutant]

EG might be right, but I would not jump to the 'NOT a tricho' ship yet...

first of all the Getafix is talking about 8 meter high mother plants and all..

I dont know why the heck you would die to see another yet "trichocereus" monster mother plant....

I would much prefer it to be Browningia or whatever - know what I mean?? if its a Browningia the mother is gonna be much more impressive

but you know the mother sounds like a Tricho

so

assuming the spines were not trimmed

* I dont like the terscheckii X validus hybrid hypothesis for some reasons. First of all it would be spiny... and probably fatter... although we are not shown the real width of the cutting...

* if its a tricho it really has too many ribs to be a macrogonus or whatever...

* could be a validus X scop or terschecki X scop or even vice versa...

this could explain the giant phenotype, large number of ribs and extremely short spines

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So given all the data and given there are lots of such hybrids there (never heard of a 80 y.o. though)

I would say most likely a tricho

Waiting to see active growth, pics of the mother ...

[mushroomman]

He ment it could be a terscheckii or a validus hybrid Ceres has a terscheckii x pach that looks a lot like this too

[mushroomman]

A few more pics of the same clone

[Evil Genius]

On these pics, it looks a bit like that "Big Bertha" Hybrid. http://www.sonorangardensinc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/DSC00812.jpg

Edited November 23, 2013 by Evil Genius

[mutant]

heheh

"short-spined validus" seems the most meaningful name IMO , lol

Micromegas had shown a variety of fatties and a couple of his plants looked like this clone..

[tripsis]

Not dissimilar to the terscheckii from Dawson's either, though that plant is massive and fat.

(interbeing's photo)

Edited November 23, 2013 by tripsis

[tripsis]

As a matter of fact, looking at those latter photos of Mushroomman's compared to the one I just posted, it may be the same plant. Would potentially explain the age of the mother plant as well.

[mushroomman]

Nah definitely not that plant it doesn't grow anywhere near as fat, iv seen pics of that short spined terscheckii that are at lease 1.5 foot thick prob more

[hostilis]

Wow! There are so many amazing clones floating around Australia. Beautiful!

[bogfrog]

Hey hey

Here's two plants of what's supposed to be terscheckii x scopulicola

- quite different from your plant Getafix, quite a bit more spiny, although there are some similarities

[Halcyon Daze]

Flippin' sweet cross Ceres, are those yours?

[zelly]

Kinda looks like Yungasocereus inquisivensis

[prier]

There are only so many nurseries, serious cacti gardens and collectors in this country. Most places will have a good idea of what their plants are. Ask the seller, this is the best advice I can give, if they didn't grow it themselves find out who did. It may well be a random hybrid from and old garden or a nursery, the grower might not know what it is but they will be able to tell you what flowering size plants they have and when they flower. which can help narrow down the possibilities. If you have to resort to the internet, mention where you got the plant, even if it's just a town or even which state it was found in can help. I know people hate giving away their "secrets" but knowing where the plant came from greatly helps to identify it.