gerbil

glad you got something out of it, was edited a fair bit, had directions and relevance, but i suppose i wasn't comfortable with it in the legal forum, as after a while it can dilute threads away from more precise legal info. I suppose i just meant, these things have serious social consequences and people just don't seem to care, so after a while people who do care, stop caring, due to brick wall phenonenom. The impact these sorts of laws have, directly restricts the capability of life. Keeping genetics going is excellent, though stocking up doesn't stop the potential for your human rights to be violated, because the legislation still exists. Educate yourself then educate those around you, help people that need help and communicate what is going on, cultural ruts are hard to change, but our society is sick and we are blinkered so much we actually actively promote it as a majority. For legislation like the proposed to even be proposed let alone administered completely leaves me lost for words, we use psychological wars to keep the masses in line, lie about substance effects through bias information selection and distribution, yet if the masses took a step back, the hypocrisy of enforcement and supporting attitudes is scarily embarrassing to our entire society. anyway it's turning back into an edit lol

edit rant aint productive

Quickly looking in the legal forum has one of the main threads of relevance http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26539&st=550 So as far as i'm aware and understand, it's past the submission stage, now we wait for their move and response after accounting for and reviewing the submissions in relation to their proposed legislation. I'm not aware that anyone here could fully answer your question, you'd have to talk to the authorities and ask them how they are going with it, which you probably wouldn't get a proper answer anyway. It hasn't gone away if that's what you are asking, afaik. Just my opinion, though i reckon one of two things, they will drop legislation in when there is a lull in social drama to solidify their propaganda regarding dangers of substances and ultimate society protection, or they will drop legislation during hectic public times so majority of people have no idea, no care and no reaction, smooth sailing for ultimate erosion of human rights. wow that was insightful gerbil, it's either put it in the face of the public or hide it from the public, i guess in a 50 50 world either is possible so my comment is pointless, it's like if you hold your breath you can't breathe, it's one or the other, unless ya want a third mixed option, though more complex ratios are as known outcomes as a 50 50 outcome anyway, to paraphrase my comment is stating the obvious and meaningless haha

shit yeah aux, those sorta lineages do it for me, highly intelligent, generally good natured given their strength and aggressive potential, plus good hunting companions if gun dog methods of hunting is ya sorta thing. ah dog breeds do my head in, have been trying to figure out the retriever / lab retriever thing for many years. Yours initially is something i wouldn't call a lab retriever, looks sorta like a golden retriever influence in the coat and ears, but such a lab retriever structure underneath, initially i'd thought golden retriever x black lab retriever (never heard of that one! gold retriever x gold lab retriever is abundant here though). The american lab retrievers remind me of black pointers (as can english ones to me, but english usually more stubby like a mastiff). No doubt lotsa variations even within somewhat stable breeds. Nice dog mate :D You feed off each other no doubt, intelligent dogs reach better potential with intelligent owners, it's amazing what can happen.

flawless plant strangebrew, geeze snags is nice such a weird electric false green in the newer skin, thanks for the great service :D

sorry for sidetrack, if it interests you zen, they've also got Mind Altering and Poisonous Plants of the World, essentially same format as med. plants. wow just looking up the authors other texts after T's 'write excellent books', found Wink's Annual plant review biochemistry and plant secondary metabolism, relatively fresh out, pricey but wow sounds interesting.

hah yeah that whole natural thing is funny, such naive people, i remember hearing about a fella who somehow drank fertiliser, but after the realisation of, thought he'd be 100% fine 'cause it was organic hahaha i've had a quite severe allergic reaction to a green chilli in india, the heat was ridiculous but for at least a few days i was covered head to toe in red welts/rash, which really isn't much fun in indian humidity, heat and crowds. The fella i knew there would eat two of these a day instead of taking malaria tablets.

rocoto capsicum pubescens the black seeded chilli would be a good one down your way, it's a bolivian species that does well in cold, is a sorta viney/branchy tree, from memory can get to 15ft, pretty sure the italian mob i sourced my seed off was growing it on a flat wall trellis, their branching is flat like that at times. i don't know if i've got seed anymore, will check soon. anyhoo gotta run.

unicorn bags are the main supplier to the market if i'm not mistaken?

looks like something outta le planete fantastique, i think the whacked out nature of the shot is from the angle of the ribs and the shadow forming in the decussate growth, grouped with the textural skin and strikingly odd colours, quite a stunning visual phenomenon, bloody good shots when you can capture those sorts of things, it's the elements that excite you in real life but when tried to be captured on film, tis elusive and frusting for a hobby photographer, gold when you hit it though!

how about something like justicia, many coumarinsare said to be antispasmodic i think? and it's creates a bit of a creamy sorta tea so possibly would go well with coffee taste and texturally. Might be worth looking into, i don't know all the interactions though :D

thankyou ferret

dont really have the time to look deep into 'em, also doesn't help when there is no locational data, it can be very important and helpful with ID, i'm guessing you are VIC/NSW. You're possibly looking at: 1 baileyana 2 longifolia complex, leaning sophorae 3 pycnantha 4 longifolia complex, leaning longifolia 5 pycnantha 6 verniciflua

it's like a strobe light for epileptics, tis going to 'cause flashback in perceptive normal people i reckon, particularly those empty nothing sound moments, very interesting, am not so interested in the clip itself, but it's structure is quite astounding. edit: wow tonight, hope it's going well for ya.

tis a cultural construct, and our society is unhealthy in all contexts of the word, but we're fed like rabid dogs from a construct above us who makes us think we have choice and dictate our direction, yet our dictation is being dictated. We are the blind leading the blind and our frustrations arise when we realise how helpless we are in our position and the snowball rolls. Hope you're sadness passes

Honesty is a wonderful thing, 'tis respected caapi even if opinions don't meet eye to eye. I reckon it's hard to work in a job these days that isn't destructive and unethical in some way shape or form, even environmental fields seem to degrade localised environments in their own unique way, mining may just be more in your face and obvious, i don't like mining, but it can be an easy head to put on a pike, a location for a good finger pointin' session, whilst hypocrisy is weaved within the air around us feeling like a plumped up marshmallow with no where to escape ------ don't know if this helps but, re employment, i've known family get in as a lower end truck drivers at the lesser preferred mines and work their way through tickets leading to different vehicles/responsibilities and better condition mine sites. These people are mature workers with trades under their belts, though not related to their work on site, and personal friends/contacts in the industry seemed to help out. Were willing to do long hours of hard work in hot conditions (i.e. lowest ranks), but didn't have to in a sense and entered a bit higher. Anyhoo good luck with whatever.

I'll grab the first snags if that's cool, if not the second one. will pm.

Love your updates spun, keep em comin' they are really appreciated. That plant is really vibrant, it must be a pleasure being in that greenhouse. How are the flowers? they should be blooming by now eh? don't discount seed set, i've had an obtusifolia sapling flower for the first time last year lightly, which podded up a handful, most seemed to abort but one is continuing to mature currently while it's about to hit it's first major bloom this season (2nd flowering). I'd be really interested to see the update of the fella in ireland who was growing these, might have been on the other boards. anyway fitting with the trend, 2 seedlings in tubes emerged after rain just shy of 6months from treatment.

sample pages can be viewed here to communicate layout/extent of species description and adjoining photos. http://www.weedinfo.com.au/bk_weedsosea.html I'm never happy with photos in ID books, usually they are absolute crap and essentially useless, a 20m field shot does nothing for proper intricate diagnostics that can realistically be communicated by photos if enough effort and thought is put into it. ID books are a constant source of frustration, love hate relationship, it's a good comparision to our societies functioning, put in all this effort and end up with a half arse product that doesn't work most the time. This book seems to be one of the better ones both in info and photos (yet it's not without it's downfalls too), by brief i don't mean bad, it's just that it's constraints don't make it an encyclopedia. Realistically it would be good if a single encyclopedia was created and updated, then contexted field guides spun off that, don't hold ya breath, our society does not work together... In terms of Sonchus in this book, i feel the photos have fallen well short, but it's just a field guide to point you in a direction.

ah thankyou very much for that fydesvindico, still after years of talking to someone about it as multi species or variants, never looked it up to figure out why there are a few types of those solanums around, that explains alot haha cheers :D

blackberry leaves!?! lol yah sick solanum nigrum by the looks

not really, odds and ends everywhere, there's limitations to contexts. The most recent field guide for the south east aus is, weeds of the south east 2nd ed which has just been released. Though it covers huge number of species so it's very brief. You generally need to multi reference with any ID, you only get out what you put in... you need to utilise your local authorities resources, like cma's, councils, water authorities, state environment, agri. dept. etc, for localised and broader weed / veg. information/lists. websites like weeds.org.au might be of use, then wiki and all that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonchus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactuca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteraceae other than that it's all standard broad spectrum botanical and flower knowledge to study.

very nice mike thanks for sharin' fondle and pinch all good, but you're missing the acoustics of spines and heavy hydrated stems, tok tok some good variation, looking heavy sorta what i'd see as classic bridge, and pc pach, then more funky blue pach/peru/macro group. one particular that has strong characteristics of a seedgrown 'pachanoi' in a thread already, but update soon enough as it's spring almost.

yeah that would be cool, let me know when works for ya and will do the same this end, sadly lotsa examples are at the end of their bloom, but still heaps partway through, but opens up for their pod id over coming months, making mucronata and floribunda splitting a little easier. Found a quite long leaf floribunda the other day more than i usually see, and also some which have a Callistemon appearance particularly from a distance, shorter harsher erect phyllodes, partly or fully could be stress and harsh growing conditions or possibly another representation of it's variable expression. checked 3 of the older obtusi saplings and they are covered in buds so should be a good bloom from them in a few months, plus 1 seed pod still forming from the first (last) bloom. :D

am not familiar with the plants up that way and without more information it's just guess work really... ballpark... Cayratia clematidea http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Cayratia~clematidea Cissus hypoglauca http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Cissus~hypoglauca