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I think this is what people think we are.... Front page news....I thought Crocks replaced thongs awhile back...dam! This was just a normal cyclone event that was beat up by the Meeeedja....Bob Brown has gone quiet...Where are ya Bobby...

Well I try show it's who we breed with more than who we allign ourselves with Also what we have faith in: god, or nature. Sometimes people joke about 'how lucky we are the Nazi's didn't win the war' but we were swindled by a great lie. The Devils Casino gave us a drink on the house, rigged the 'win Israel' wheel of fortune, took our soul and sued us! The Jews sculpted their own version of religion and now their own version of public opinion - and to throw salt on the wounds many people are not even legally allowed to talk about it. What if Hitler succeded in smashing down the Jewish financial cartels and Christian Church? What if it resulted in a better world? We'll never know because we voted for Bankers, Soldiers and Rabbi's instead of Architects, Scientists and Autobahns. The irony is not lost. Everyone shuns the 'sophistication', 'greed' and 'power' of the 1st world then complains when the TV is turned off. That is the irony of civilization - its not the ruins but the networks: The irony that white pyramids cannot be built without an army of black workers and black pyramids cannot be built without white thinkers; The irony that Christianity seems to forget it comes from Judaism (revising scripture to show the Jews killed Christ to boot) and Islam would be irrelevant without Christianity; The irony that Jewish ghettos turned into tinsletown; The Irony of US Civil Rights reform leading to violent black race riots - often looting their own 'brothers'; The irony of black and white segregation in colonial Africa morphing into desperate Civil War chaos and povety after independance; Ironic that 3rd world nations who reject or talk about suffering from 1st world countries are then quick to immigrate to or leech those same 1st world countries - and the 1st world countries scope to cater for everyone often ends up leaving no-one to cater for them; The irony that the 3rd world countries are populating up the planet and 1st world countries polluting up the planet. The world is a magnet. People are going around thinking they can make a better world by buying a Toyota Prius or growing organic bananas, having one child or praying to 'God' - all great stuff in context - but what we need to do fundamentaly is be honest about who we actually are. We are like a bunch of different dog breeds on an oval wearing political paper bags over our heads so we can't see the implications of how or whether we mix. Civilizations however are not just about power and domination but understanding the infinate and beautiful structure in nature: Rocks that cleave and cut; Miraculous gothic arches revealing mathematics and physics; Curious obelisks marking contellations and geography; Determined particle accelerators smashing nuetrons; Healthy inventions and systems improving life. Learning from nature.

a couple of years ago , i was happy reading mckenna and quite happily agreeing with him; hey it made sense at the time, and the lack of references didnt bother me overly as i knew it was still mostly conjecture. I have since returned to uni, and i now find myself even reading books by academics occassionally wondering what the paricular reference was, i.e what was the exact source of the info, as without it, it just becomes a comment instead of a potentially significant fact. thats just me, but i think more and more of us in this community are taking this viewpoint on board, that it needs to be backed up and it needs to be factual. You could write your book one of two ways. As: 1) fairly interesting and convincing intellectual narrative. but mostly based around personal experience and aspects of your reading list that support your conjectures. i found "cosmic serpent" by Narby a great example of this, and i will assume Pinchbecks "2012" to be the same. interesting but in the end just more blah. or 2) An acedemic treatise, backing up everything via references, and i mean everything. while more heavy going, and for you more time consuming, this would in time be the more credible option. and even if you didnt prove your original hypothesis true, at least you tried and you have still made a contribution that can be credibly used by others. I certainly think the acedemic path would be the way to proceed, not only for credibilities sake, but I feel it would be more rewarding for you personally, and perhaps open other avenues of research for others. I think though this is a big one to take on, its certainly very multidisciplinary in its scope, and i think you'll have years of work just to get to a point where you feel comfortable proceding with your book. I would be more curious though about how our interection with plants containing compounds which affect our neuro/biochemistry have affected our evolution. I take my hat off to you for trying, you certainly have a lot of courage for taking this on, and i certainly am not yet game enough to do so even for matters of much smaller scope. good luck Cheers, Obtuse.

Im still trying to understand the question lol

any stim that lasts longer than the hours a normal person should be awake for, is just down right bad. If you need a stim, use a lower duration one.

Holy Fuckin shit !

grin... was hard work getting those lophs together. lol

yeah, this is a range of my different varietas, i dunno what they are exactly, but there are var caesp, teocolote, huizache, and a heap of others from seed all around aus in my collection, i don't keep track of them, but you will see variations in these just in the pics, all grown in same spot/conditions. This is a collection in one spot.

Some more non-forum pages talking about this topic: http://politicaltarot.com/2011/01/golden-wattle-a-dangerous-drug/ http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=13908 I'm writing to my MP today - not that I expect much joy from Sharon Grierson (man she must be sick of hearing from me ) Edit: spelling

Ill put it a different way: I admire the fact that your preoccupying yourself with philosophical and historical issues. I admire the fact your passionate about it. Your not spending your time like the average person in society, whinging about parking or their deadend jobs or whatever. I also acknowledge the fact that throughout history and particularly in modern times, the egos of learned academics have often shouted down and stood in the way of new theories that have changed the whole direction of an area of study - medicine is a very common scenario in this regard. However, you need to prove your argument. You need to be unbiased; you need to apply the same critical eye to resources that support your argument as you apply to those that dont. You need to rely on primary sources - where no assumptions are made but your own - rather than secondary sources where all you get is someone's opinion of a set of facts without any clarity about what assumptions have been made.

Is it worth trying to find data that would disprove the stupid idea that mescaline is posing an immanent public threat worthy of creating and enforcing expensive new laws and criminalising large segments of the population? Where are the mescaline-related hospital admission statistics? The mescaline-related accident statistics? Lost work days to mescaline use? If the Feds believe that cactus growers pose a significant threat to polite society on the basis of criminal organisation profits they should be able to show some stats, such as per dose per annum profit for the growth and extraction of mescaline bearing plants to end-sale pill for mass consumption. Oh. Figures don't look so good now for the justification of stupid new laws huh The likelihood of extracted cactii products ever reaching socially problematic proportions based on profit is a pathetic notion. And if they're worried about a bunch of bark munching ferals playing with plants for personal use, well, there are already laws in position to cover that I do believe they're playing at seeing how organised said bark munching ferals are. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be organised and professional We lost Kratom because we believed they wouldn't be so simply stupid. And Sally because we didn't know any better re the TGA scheduling process. These plants now have recognised medical use at research phase, though we weren't in a position to claim that at the time and it was left to other researchers in other countries to continue the work. The laws are making us a dumber, poorer country

If one can take onboard the idea of aliens then it should be very easy to consider seeds of innovation being spread across the globe during the neolithic, over successive waves by Europeans with predominantly Nordic features (tall, fair complexion and hair, coloured eyes). For many reasons this is a controversial theory but not without a great deal of supporting evidence. Follow red hair gene's and megaliths around the globe and there's a pattern. The early paleolithic northern europeans had to deal with glaciation, neanderthals (think about how this could influence white ancestors attitudes of colonialism/slavery), mammoth, fjords, bogs, mtns so on and so forth. They became physically unique and with blonde blue eyed women, understandly 'godly'. They developed unique and often sophisticated organisation, ideas, language, art and eventually oceanic seafaring navigation, stone masonry, metalurgy and trade with the south, west and far east. The giant ‘white gods who came in ships’. The innovative explosion was warm climate black africans rapidly adapting to new habitats and species of freezing and thawing ice to the north. The Native Americans (of mongol and earlier asiatic decent) probably had a great deal of parallel evolution and also dealt with glaciation but more as a response to retreating ice. But they did not suddenly develop highly advanced mathematics, astronomy, engineering and agriculture in contrast to their Siberian ancestry and north american indians pre colombus – they were taught how to build temples, make calenders (like other suspiciousy similar cultures were taught) and cast metal by 'bearded' Europeans who eventually ruled over them, interbred with some of them and were almost entirely wiped out by them. They sailed via the Canary Is and ultimately reached the South Pacific, possibly checking out antarctica. Antiquity is full of stories, paintings and sculpture that depict white people in places they historicly shouldn't be - even within europe itself. Many red haired caucasian mummies have been found from Nazca to Egypt to China. There are flaura and fauna anomolies. Naturally a lot of history gets edited along the way, cultural exchanges happen back and forth and time erodes but so much evidence is still right in front of us now: the origin and behaviour of the elite western and hybrid middle eastern societies. Natural selection shapes even our most sacred human creations. Apes evolved into humans over relatively vast periods of time and in response to some extraordinary environmental changes. 'Faith' also came out of Africa long ago, as it is universal, and the ritual of religion is more important in binding together communities for mutual benefit than the actual belief, creative medium or 'drug of choice'. It doesn't matter if you put feathers in your hair, trip out on shrooms, chant Jesus hymns or DJ a club - it's the physical activities, personal interaction and knowledge exchange through myth that creates positive survival traits. We are hardwired for the supernatural. Hardwired to the concept of heroism, the afterlife and morality. Supernatural rituals that involve altered states can be achieved many ways from song, dancing, meditation as well as psychedelics. Those types of things played an important and recognised role, but whether they are the primary gamechangers is very difficult to prove. Mushrooms probably enhanced those rituals no differently than they do for us today.

[bSo let me get this right... killing cats and drinking their blood and having sex with goats before cutting their throats is a (quote): "very longstanding religious tradition", which religion would that be then? And I suppose thats OK then is it?? Well, you definitely shouldn't have sex with them after cutting their throats... Zak

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Boy, you really are a cretin aren't you; such invective should have you banned. Apparently you are unaware that there are alternate spellings of both cities and countries in other languages that are proper regardless of a street sign. You're no grammarian yourself considering that you misspelled the way they spell Peru in Perú. ~Michael~