modafinil -- modavigil

[faustus]

after considerable trouble finally got a script for this one. for those unfamiliar it's touted as inducing "alertness without stimulation", unlike other drugs like speed etc.

have been taking it for 2 days, it definitely fits the bill... a slight euphoria and a marked increase in motivation for even unpleasant tasks, energy, concentration etc... but it isn't over the top and creeps up on you. lasts all day and all night, one problem i've been having is getting to sleep but when i wake up 5-6 hours later i feel very refreshed. i imagine this'd cause problems in the long run

it sounds like an undisciplined quick-fix when i'm sure appropriate diet and exercise would do the trick... but by golly it's fucking fantastic.though it's hella expensive ($120 - 100mg x 30)! but i found chinese source selling 200 x 200mg for $US200. it's usually used for narcolepsy but if you say pretty please the doc may prescribe. apparently they're using it in the US air force for fatigue. oh yeah, potentially habit-forming

[gomaos]

they're using it in the US air force for fatigue. oh yeah, potentially habit-forming

so this must be the "speed" I heard about which fighter plane pilots HAVE to take to be able to fly their death machines?

[2b]

That would be Dexedrine.

[simon_marklar]

i've been wanting to try this for a while - its hard for me to get though work without a lot of caffiene - cant concentrate for that long anymore, motivation is dropping. caffiene fixes that for like 1 hour, then its worse.

unfortunatly i dont get narcolepsy and i am the worst at lying. was thinking about ordering it from online to see if it helps but im pretty sure i'd need a prescription, right?

[ 07. April 2005, 16:58: Message edited by: simon_marklar ]

[Thelema]

why did you need a script? couldnt you have just imported 3 months worth?

[Μορφέας]

Something interesting I stumbled upon today was modafinil and mushroom combination

I have had a suspicion for a while now that modafinil might be an interesting substance to take alongside hallucinogens, as shrooms tend to make me sleepy and modafinil is designed to enhance wakefulness. So I decided to try an experiment: on day one I would take took mushrooms alone, and the next day I would take exactly the same dose of mushrooms but with modafinil as well.

Starting mid morning on day one, I ate 0.5g of dried cubensis shrooms. This is usually enough to give me a threshold experience with effects including brighter colours, increased concentration and a subtle feeling of optimism about the world. Today was no exception. A couple of hours later I took another 0.5g, and a further 0.5g one hour after that. By this point I was made up for the afternoon and I had a very pleasant time gazing out of the window and contemplating our (i.e. the human race) influence on this delicate planet. I devoted some time to thinking about what I could do to abate my personal contribution to this madness, and then got on with some housework. A fresh mind AND a clean home! As its peak, I reached a good level 2, but no more.

Day 2: Same set up as before, but this time I took 200mg modafinil along with the 0.5g shrooms. I was not prepared for the intensity of what followed. As I began to come up I found myself unable to contribute to the conversation and I quickly realised that I wasn't going to want to take any more shrooms. The feeling was similar to a mushroom trip in that my thoughts were slightly fragmented, but the visuals were very different. I saw none of the usual shimmering and geometry, instead everything appeared quite normal, but with the most intense and syrupy colours. I felt extremely comfortable - similar to being stoned - and for a while I wondered whether I was going to lose myself entirely. There was certainly no way I was going to take any more shrooms. The most intense part of the trip lasted about an hour and was a high level 2. It’s difficult to describe in what ways it was different from shrooms alone, but I was certainly more aware of the outside world and less introspective. All in all I thought it was a pretty impressive response from 0.5g of shrooms!

In retrospect I can say that the modafinil definitely increased the intensity of the trip. It cannot be due to any dosing discrepancy as I homogenized all the shrooms before the experiment and I measured them out very carefully. The two substances, in my opinion, go very well together and I definitely intend to try this combo again sometime.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=58332

Edited February 6, 2007 by tepa

[cisumevil]

after considerable trouble finally got a script for this one. for those unfamiliar it's touted as inducing "alertness without stimulation", unlike other drugs like speed etc.

. it's usually used for narcolepsy but if you say pretty please the doc may prescribe.

You must have a bloody nice Dr mate as It's a Schedule 4 prescription drug, that clearly states that it can only be used by people suffering Narcolepsy, was it a one off script or are you still using it?

Some people have all the luck ;)

Edited September 2, 2007 by cisumevil

[nabraxas]

why did you need a script? couldnt you have just imported 3 months worth?

this really confuses me. Thelema has a pretty good grasp ov the import laws & (like other folks have told me) seems to be implying that you can import presciption only meds. (i guess upto a certain "S" level, otherwise everyone would be importing vicodin.)

others have told me that you need a prescription.

i know people who are taking smart drugs like piracetam or drugs like viagra that they've ordered from overseas without a script, but is that really legal?

[Conan Troutman]

this really confuses me. Thelema has a pretty good grasp ov the import laws & (like other folks have told me) seems to be implying that you can import presciption only meds. (i guess upto a certain "S" level, otherwise everyone would be importing vicodin.)

others have told me that you need a prescription.

i know people who are taking smart drugs like piracetam or drugs like viagra that they've ordered from overseas without a script, but is that really legal?

a good grasp hey (scary)

Importing prescription medication is illegal, The 3 month supply thing applies only if you have a script and authorization to import said medication.

[Thelema]

Hi, yes i do have a good grasp. that post was from 2 years ago, and I remember looking up at the time on the tga schedules and not being able to find modafinil listed, nor in any of the recent ndpsc meetings. so at the time my question was motivated by the presumption that it was unscheduled. You do not need a prescription or authorization to import unscheduled drugs for personal use. In fact, I'm pretty sure modafinil has only been scheduled this year. I did not mean to imply that one can import scheduled drugs without a prescription.

edit: just did some research, modafinil formally became s4 january 2003. So I guess my presumptions were unfounded. see here:http://www.tga.gov.au/ndpsc/gazette/g0206pos.pdf

Edited September 5, 2007 by Thelema

[Conan Troutman]

Hehehe, just clearing it up for those who may have misunderstood, as it seemed nabraxas had...

Of course you dont need authorization to import unscheduled items , anyway presumptions and the law....

[caludia]

i ahvent posted for a while since i dont really have anything to add, but i saw this topic tonight and thought i'd better chime in ;)

i got a script of this hyper-expensive thing a couple of weeks ago, after reading some articles about how it's supposedly a 'smart drug' and can at least keep you awake with no ill effects and no crash.

like most people i get the afternoon sleepies, and i enjoy grabbing as many unfair advantages as i can over my fellows

effects were noticeable at 100mg, not all that much more noticeable at 200mg actually, so i reverted to 100mg and took it for about 4 days straight, in the monrings with my coffee and then sometimes in the afternoons too.

the cost here in the USA was $230 for 1 month's supply, called provigil over here. After my health insurance company decided i could have it (in the USA, it's your health in surance company, not your doc, who decides what medication you can take... docs will just prescribe anything you ask, in my experience), the end cost was $80.

to be honest i thought it was a letdown... very specifically targeted, nothing other than a trifle more alertness and a definite difficulty in falling asleep. Def kept the afternoon blahs away too.

if i ever get excited about anything in my life again, and need/want to stay awake and put in monster hours, this will be handy. Until then, it's useless, for me at least. No euphoria, no increased clarity. Just less desire to fall asleep.

i can def see why it's good for airforce pilots too. Would be good for anyone on shift work really.

oh, one more thing: it's by far the most effective appetite suppresant i have ever tried... i believe this is a major off-label benefit of the drug. Far more effective than hoodia at keeping hunger at bay. Induces a faint (but not annoying) nausea and puts all thought of face-stuffing to bed.

[incognito]

hey there rambone rimnuts!!

long time no see or speak! glad to see ur back!

twix supplied me with some of this wuitea few yrs ago now, and i used to have it in the arvos whilst landscaping.

i found it gave me alot of energy, was very clean, and no comedown at all. very clean product.

Edited November 22, 2007 by jono

[caludia]

hey there rambone rimnuts!!

long time no see or speak! glad to see ur back!

twix supplied me with some of this wuitea few yrs ago now, and i used to have it in the arvos whilst landscaping.

i found it gave me alot of energy, was very clean, and no comedown at all. very clean product.

good to hear from you too

yep, can surely see that it could be a benefit in that regard. i have taken up bouldering/climbing as a hobby (indoors), and unlike ritalin or even coffee, modafinil doesnt raise my heart rate or bp (do you get the same result?), and so there doesnt seem to be much danger in taking it even when you are exerting yourself. i climbed extra hard when i was on this

so i do see the benefits. i think i would just need something to go along with this to provide a bit of artificial enthusiasm, you know, in conjunction with the "awakeness"

no point being awake if you're bored like me better off going to sleep, resting and regenerating, and going to dreamy land where i can be a viking like ralph on the simpsons

in fact there was a slight rush to this... just not a euphoria. a standard dopamine-style sense of "can-do" i spose. just not my thing atm.

[simon_marklar]

wow, i got really different effects to you rimbaud. total desire to work work work, slight euphoria and brightening of mood desire to work, i could easily eat, desire to work... it was amazing... did i mention it made me want to work ? oh, having a coffee on it sent me to anxiety hell.

[stonewolf]

whats this chinese source, i live in china so scripts shouldn't be an issue, and i wont have to pay much for delivery.

[caludia]

wow, i got really different effects to you rimbaud. total desire to work work work, slight euphoria and brightening of mood desire to work, i could easily eat, desire to work... it was amazing... did i mention it made me want to work ? oh, having a coffee on it sent me to anxiety hell.

i can def see how that would be... one thing's for sure, it does have a strangely targeted effect on alertness. I just wanted some stronger euphoria to go with it. But if you got strong euphoria plus alertness + no major heart rate/ blood pressure changes, well then, the thing would be illegal wouldn't it? ;-) Can certainly see how the desire to work gets improved (or aggravated as the case may be

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i'm just glad i had a chance to try it... always good to try something new.