sillysyban Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hey good peoples, Can anyone tell if this is a Pachanoi or Pachanot? I am just starting out and cant tell from the descriptions I have read. If someone can explain the difference it would be much appreciated. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern.shaman Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Pachanot IMO but if you're in AU it may be a hybrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Change Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Maybe you could ask whoever you got it from? This might help http://troutsnotes.com/pachanot/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillysyban Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 Cheers guys. I had a look through Trouts notes and though it appears to be Pachanot I wanted advice from someone who is more knowledgeable than myself. I figure I will grow it and check the flowers to be sure. I have asked the person I got it off but I bought this as a Loph that was grafted to this cactus. This tip was a pup that was growing. The original owner was not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampjrass Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Haha I was very sure .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagiXsagi Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 has some resemblance with the pc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillysyban Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 Haha I was very sure .. Hahaha. Thanks mate. Yeah that was my bad with the terminology. I thought PC just referred to a type of San Pedro not a Pachanot. Only just realized. First of many mistakes I am sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagiXsagi Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 nah, its not your fault... the diversity in nature but also the over-enthousiasm towards this genus has created hypes, and many many names . Its only normal as we are actually humans and not some wise beings, like some superior beings in some sci-fi films 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillysyban Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 Cheers sagiXsagi. Looking at it there are lots of different opinions over this. Its a good read though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DualWieldRake Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 There is no such thing as pachanot and PC is not a clone either, it's a variety. Last but not least potency of end product is heavily influenced by growing conditions and post harvest processing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainGoat Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Pc is not all bad, makes great grafting stock. I wouldn't hybridise with it though... Edited January 20, 2017 by MountainGoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagiXsagi Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 One should also note that there used to be clones sold in oz (Omar, Alf) which were almost identical to PC, maybe offspring or something. Just saying.. sure there is the name "pachanot" , wasn't it coined by Trout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmattz0r Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 There is no such thing as pachanot and PC is not a clone either, it's a variety. Last but not least potency of end product is heavily influenced by growing conditions and post harvest processing. Tell me more about how PC is not a clone.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DualWieldRake Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Cause it has siblings and produce offspring, you'd need DNA testing to see if it's clone or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillysyban Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Interesting. Might be worth growing for grafting and seeing what the flowers look like for further ID. Cheers for the input. I will update this post down the track when I get it to flower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillysyban Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 The fact that it was used as grafting stock and it looks like what most people deem PC does not fill me with confidence of it genetics however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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