hostilis Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Hello my friends. I recently ran into some pictures of crested pereskiopsis plants, but there are only like 2 plants that I can find posted on the internet.I wanted to ask any of you if you've ever gotten crested or monstrose pereskiopsis and if you have, do you have any picture? I would LOVE to see some mutant pereskiopsis.Thanks,Hostlils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostilis Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 Here are some of the pictures that I found on google. They aren't mine just to reiterate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmattz0r Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Interesting, I recall possibly seeing something like this a while ago online. I forget where unfortunately, I would love a crested pereskiopsis ^_^ I also remember seeing Giant pereskiopsis on ebay a couple of times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostilis Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 What do you mean by giant? You mean just a really old plant, or a really wide one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmattz0r Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 It was just very large, bigger than any old plant I have seen... It was on eBay in the EU somewhere... Had really large leaves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weazelloph Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Ive seen it quite often on there. From what I can tell it just looks larger as in larger leaves and girth? Ill post pics or a link if I see it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr33ntea Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I bought a pereskiopsis porteri off someone on ebay (for the sake of having a slightly different pereskiopsis), hasn't come in yet but i planning on all sorts of nasty stuff to my pereskiopsis to make them mutate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostilis Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) Porteri is synonymous with spathulata as far as I know. I have 2 different types of pereskiopsis: the two different clones or species that that seller has right now. They do seem pretty different (one is hairy as hell and one has no hair at all) But they're both sold as spathulata here in the states. Edited December 29, 2013 by hostilis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr33ntea Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 So my Pereskiopsis porteri that i paid $21 for is no different to my Spathulatas i have so much of at home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostilis Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 They might be the same, they might be different. It depends on if you have the hairy clone or the bald clone (or species, IDK) I'll take some pictures tomorrow to show you the difference when it's light, I'm not sure whether they're different species or just different clones. But I know that cactusplaza.com calls their spathulata "Pereskiopsis porteri (P. spathulata)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr33ntea Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) I took pictures of them, plant is dehydrated all of it http://imgur.com/etDsy9k close up http://imgur.com/JB5Cb3Q Edited January 8, 2014 by gr33ntea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostilis Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Yeah, That just looks like a spathulata to me to be honest. The clone with less hair. Edited January 8, 2014 by hostilis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phytolator Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I gave a cutting to a friend, he grew it some and gave a cutting to another friend, he grew some and it crested!This is a photo he shared of it one month ago... ***not my photo*** ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostilis Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Wow. Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostilis Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Here are some pictures of the two different clones I see floating around. I'd really like to know if they are indeed different species or just different variations of spathulataHere are some pictures of the hairier clone with bigger leaves. I like this one better for grafting because it grows thicker and stays soft longer than the other clone. Here is the non hairy clone. It tends to grow skinnier and have smaller leaves/more spines. It gets woody easier than the other clones. This is the one that looks like the pictures you showed me of the "Pereskiopsis porteri" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phytolator Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 ^ those hairy broad leafed ones are real nice! I've seen quite a bit of morphological variation in the one species I have - depending on various environmental factors I assume, but never the hair like that! awesome :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostilis Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Yeah. These plants in the pictures were all grown in the exact same conditions. They're definitely different clones. My favorites are definitely the hairy ones. Although I have to remove the hair when doing seedling grafting (near the spot where I cut) so it doesn't get inbetween the stock and scion. But they also stay soft longer so my success rate is higher with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr33ntea Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Yeah. These plants in the pictures were all grown in the exact same conditions. They're definitely different clones. My favorites are definitely the hairy ones. Although I have to remove the hair when doing seedling grafting (near the spot where I cut) so it doesn't get inbetween the stock and scion. But they also stay soft longer so my success rate is higher with them.I usually burn it very swiftly with a lighter to get rid of glochids Yeah, That just looks like a spathulata to me to be honest. The clone with less hair.Damn, oh well. No one buy from this person than http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/291034823136?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 Edited January 9, 2014 by gr33ntea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostilis Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) I think they're just trying to make a distinction between the two. The spathulata and porteri he has are different. The spathulata is the hairy clone i showed you and the porteri is the hairless clone. Hopefully you don't already have the non hairy clone. I checked into it and porteri isn't synonymous with spathulata according to cacti guide. But cactus plaza says they are on their listing for their pereskiopsisHere's cactus plazas listing http://www.cactusplaza.com/pereskiopsis-porteri-spathulataHere is the cacti guide's page on porteri http://cactiguide.com/cactus/?genus=Pereskiopsis&species=porteriHere is their guide on spathulata http://cactiguide.com/cactus/?genus=Pereskiopsis&species=spathulataYours still looks like the spathulata to me, but growth conditions could have something to do with it. I'm not sure. I can't find any pictures on cacti guide showing the hairy clone that I have.The taxonomy of the pereskiopsis genus seems pretty hairy to me (kind of like with most genera) I have a hard time finding solid info. I guess if you ever see this one flower then it's probably porteri or diguetii. Edited January 9, 2014 by hostilis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Señor Corrochio Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hey guys, thanks for having me here. Pretty excited to contribute to your great community. Here's a peres I recently noticed has gone double-headed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostilis Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Wow, that looks like it almost went crested then just split into two heads. Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr33ntea Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think they're just trying to make a distinction between the two. The spathulata and porteri he has are different. The spathulata is the hairy clone i showed you and the porteri is the hairless clone. Hopefully you don't already have the non hairy clone. I checked into it and porteri isn't synonymous with spathulata according to cacti guide. But cactus plaza says they are on their listing for their pereskiopsisHere's cactus plazas listing http://www.cactusplaza.com/pereskiopsis-porteri-spathulataHere is the cacti guide's page on porteri http://cactiguide.com/cactus/?genus=Pereskiopsis&species=porteriHere is their guide on spathulata http://cactiguide.com/cactus/?genus=Pereskiopsis&species=spathulataYours still looks like the spathulata to me, but growth conditions could have something to do with it. I'm not sure. I can't find any pictures on cacti guide showing the hairy clone that I have.The taxonomy of the pereskiopsis genus seems pretty hairy to me (kind of like with most genera) I have a hard time finding solid info. I guess if you ever see this one flower then it's probably porteri or diguetii.Whoa porteri from cactiguide looks like a totally different breed of pereskiopsis. Ok the one i got was definitely not porteri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philocacti Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 porteri looks like pereskiopsis when it's grown in direct sunlight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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