mystical oyster Posted January 6, 2014 Cool thanks hostilis, Put a small lw on a hylocereus stock last night so hopefully it takes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mystical oyster Posted January 6, 2014 Cool thanks hostilis, Put a small lw on a hylocereus stock last night so hopefully it takes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwalker. Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Noob question how are you grafting seedlings to opuntia? Do you use super glue? I've got a bunch of seedlings i want to graft but have no peres, so i will use opuntia. Also are there any other good stock for seedlings? yeah I just cut the seedling with a sterile blade well above the rot..............slice the top of the opuntia........and put the 2 cut bits together ....rotate the seedling one way then the other.........so its well mucused .....opuntia are really sticky......then just rely on gravity...place in indirect light.........mind you only ~30% of the grafted seedlings survived so far..................and only a few are showing growth.......that said.......the actual seedlings (still with their roots).........haven't rotted ......but are still very tender and showing no growth after maybe 2 months since hardening off.............but I'm still keeping them very dry ...just a lite mist in the morning.....like a heavy due. I haven't had much luck grafting onto hylocereus......but I've only tried twice............... Edited January 7, 2014 by Dreamwalker 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philocacti Posted January 7, 2014 Won't the success rate increase if you put the new graft in a humidity dome? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwalker. Posted January 7, 2014 Won't the success rate increase if you put the new graft in a humidity dome? this is all new to me.....so if I put a plastic bag over the graft's ..they will do better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jox Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) It will make a BIG difference , Anyone new to grafting cacti should listen to my advice. If you want to have the best success rate possible with your grafts DO A BIT OF RESEARCH FIRST !! I am kind of surprised by how many people I see posting pictures of there first graft while at the same time asking if they have done it right, maybe I have some weird disorder but I have to read up on any new thing I attempt in life & I research many books/sites on the same topic to get the best overall idea. Mind you I am a big believer that lessons learned through making a mistake are valuable as you rarely forget them. Seriously though you should do a bit of research before attempting new grafts, you will find that how you graft & to way you treat your graft can change quite a bit from species to species for example, different sicons are sometimes better suited to certain stocks & you will get much better results, some grafts can be done & in the greenhouse after a week were others will need love & care for many months (Blossfeldia, Aztekium etc) I must admit I prefer my plants all natural but everyone that is keen on trying there hand at grafting I would say give it a go & good luck, it can be very rewarding when you get your style down. Cheers Jox Edited January 7, 2014 by Jox 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted January 7, 2014 DREAMWALKER sorry for misunderstanding - my mistake the random opuntia I used for my experiments some 3-4 years ago did not work to my advantage..I did NOT have good results, only some good experimentation. but I have got ahold of opuntia compressa and will check it sometime soon , not yet done it .... I got some cacti I bought grafted on o.compressa stock, and its supposed to be a good stock... the overall conclusion from what I understand is that its worth it to get ahold of o.compressa. but by all means try with any opuntia and let us know how it went.... I hope I will be able to contribute more in this department in the future...so far I guess I am settled to the scheme selinicerus for short term, tricho for long term, havent's grafted a seedling for some time, so I am just growing pere for the sake of it.... I am supposed to try some pereskia in grafting as well..... lots of plans waiting, happy me, no? cheers to our health first and all , as we say in greece . PS: not many of the last batch of grafts survived, despite the good prognosis. I still got at least one coryphantha areole graft seemingly alive. most loss came from orange rot and other complications 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwalker. Posted January 8, 2014 It will make a BIG difference , Anyone new to grafting cacti should listen to my advice. If you want to have the best success rate possible with your grafts DO A BIT OF RESEARCH FIRST !! I am kind of surprised by how many people I see posting pictures of there first graft while at the same time asking if they have done it right, maybe I have some weird disorder but I have to read up on any new thing I attempt in life & I research many books/sites on the same topic to get the best overall idea. Mind you I am a big believer that lessons learned through making a mistake are valuable as you rarely forget them. Thanks for the help.......Yeah I did some research.............read a bit, watched some vids.......didn't come across the bag......and time is so limited...............and I had to deal with a problem quickly or lose a lot of seedlings.......I have done some tree grafting and compared to that cactus grafting is a joy............I do better hands on.......make loads of mistakes....and eventually you find what works..........books and vids are road maps.....gota walk the walk............. ...................and this kind of feed back and advice is just gold.......... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mystical oyster Posted January 8, 2014 amen jox! Thank you ended up putting a couple of seedlings on a pachanoi, probably should have let it dry first, worried it will just push my babies off as it dries but all good fun and learning from mistakes cheers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted January 16, 2014 This is a vertical graft i did. The first one actually. It's a couple months old now. It interests me because it is pupping a lot (which is common for a graft) and it has small spines on the new pups almost like a jourdaniana. Here are some pictures. Also, do any of you know if with pereskiopsis being used as grafting stock will too big of a stock used on a loph seedling cause excesive puppin? Or is this just normal with pereskiopsis. A lot of my lophs are pupping right when they start growing. I am thinking maybe i'm using too large of stock. These are on 20-25cm peres. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philocacti Posted January 16, 2014 It could be several things If it jourdania than excessive pupping is normal If it's williamsii then pupping could be normal cause it grafted to pereskiopsis It could be also pupping so much as it is vertical so auxin doesn't run down the scion to inhibit lower areols to pup It could be so many things, but you'll definitely know if it's jourdania or williamsii when it flowers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted January 16, 2014 Yeah. we'll see. I recently got some jourdaniana seeds which i thought wasn't possible. This was out of a mixed cultivar williamsii batch. It's interesting seeing the variations. But also about the pups, all of my other lophs are pupping excesively too. So I think its just because they're on pereskiopsis. So the hormone auxin can prevent pupping? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philocacti Posted January 16, 2014 Yup, it does. It flows from the growing tip to the roots inhibiting shoots coming out of lower internodes/areols. That's why when you cut a cactus column it usually pups from the upper areol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOnThen Posted January 16, 2014 Fertilizer can make a big difference on how your graft it going to behave. But i have had grafts that i have done from the same seed packet and one will pup on top of pups and the rest will behave as a normal graft on pere would ie start pupping once it gets to a reasonable size. If you aren't already try using a low N fertilizer. This should help with getting it them to flower early as well. Cheers Got 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mushroomman Posted January 20, 2014 My little alberto-vojtechii grafted 10/11/13 forming its first flower 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philocacti Posted January 20, 2014 Did you BAP it or is it shooting pups cuz it's grafted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mushroomman Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Double post. Edited January 20, 2014 by mushroomman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mushroomman Posted January 20, 2014 I just sat it in a tray of liquid fertiliser for a week and it went nuts 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOnThen Posted January 20, 2014 Some recent grafts done in October. And a couple of the older ones Cheers Got 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
afungitobewith Posted January 20, 2014 Ay nice grafts!! Maybe you seen these? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Is that a coryphantha in the 6th picture? Those are all beautiful by the way. I just did a ton of random species of seedling grafts recently. Can't wait for them to get that big! Edit: Also. I recently switched to using a soil that has humic acid in it and is very rich for my pereskiopsis (I add other stuff of course.) Do you think this could be the culprit for the excessive pupping? Edited January 20, 2014 by hostilis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Señor Corrochio Posted January 21, 2014 Hey guys, here are some of my loph grafts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Señor Corrochio Posted January 21, 2014 Some strange pupping off the joints, was hoping for chimeras but seems unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jox Posted January 21, 2014 Hi Senor J, welcome mate, you have some very nice loph grafts going on there, looks like you have mastered grafting . Those last photos of the one pupping from the base looks very cool, I love seeing my grafts doing this kind of thing, it always gets me a little excited even though it rarely turns out exciting . Cheers Jox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOnThen Posted January 21, 2014 Ay nice grafts!! Maybe you seen these? afungitobewith Have you had that name tucked away for a while and was just waiting for somewhere to use it or did you just think of it. Good to see you here mate. Is that a coryphantha in the 6th picture? Those are all beautiful by the way. I just did a ton of random species of seedling grafts recently. Can't wait for them to get that big! Edit: Also. I recently switched to using a soil that has humic acid in it and is very rich for my pereskiopsis (I add other stuff of course.) Do you think this could be the culprit for the excessive pupping? The graft in the 6th,7th, 8th and 10th pics are Turbinicarpus swobodae ( thanks to Ceres for the seeds ) I would think that anything that makes a pere really pump is going to have a major affect on the scion. A pere just watered and grown in a standard mix can do some strange things to certain scions so pushing growth can certainly cause a scion to pup like crazy. All of those grafts above have only been fed low N fertilizer admittedly a fair amount of it but I want flowers so you do what you got to do . Cheers Got 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites