Teotzlcoatl Posted January 4, 2008 (edited) Teotzlcoatl's Trade Lists- Wanted- Kratom plants Saliva plants Khat plants Psychotria viridis "True Form" plants Diplopterys Erythroxylum plants Diplopterys plants Ilex plants Iboga plants Trade List- Seeds- Hot Pepper seeds Trichocereus "True Blue" seeds Toothache plant seeds Yopo Seeds Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds Ololuiqui seeds Plants- Bhut Pepper (World's Hottest Pepper) $20 Toothache Plants $10 Catnip Mint Salvia miltiorrhiza "Dan Shen" Salvia spathacea "Pitch Sage" Salvia divinorum "Diviner's Sage" Justicia pectoralis Maca plant Rosemary Plant ~ $20 Wormwood plant ~ $10 Fig tree ~ $10 Hot Pepper plants ~ $7 Cacti- Lophophora decipiens Lophophora koehresii Trichocereus huanucoensis Trichocereus peruvianus var. "Tarma" Trichcoereus bridgesii trichocereus spachianus Trichocereus riomizquensis Opuntia drummondii Pereskiopsis grafting cacti Dried Botanicals- Toothache Buds Salvia divinorum dried leaf Calamus Virola resin Yopo seeds Tobacco (Organic, home grown) HBWR seeds Ololuiqui seeds *NOTE*- I am not in Oz! Kratom and Salvia are legal! Edited September 17, 2009 by Teotzlcoatl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted January 5, 2008 I hope you have a deep love of spam... the spammer bots will see your email addy as soon as google indexes this page. I believe you have several false-positives in your psychoactive list Carnegiea gigantea and Opuntia cylindrica for example (in the latter the mescaline content people always quote was a admitted error and is incorrect) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 5, 2008 So you think those cacti should be removed? Damn, I guess I better take my email down... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XipeTotec Posted January 5, 2008 (edited) So you think those cacti should be removed?Damn, I guess I better take my email down... Selenicereus grandiflorus, psychoactive? Im getting a couple of cuttings of this shortly, I can trade u if u want. Edited January 5, 2008 by XipeTotec Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark80 Posted January 5, 2008 Selenicereus grandiflorus, psychoactive? Im getting a couple of cuttings of this shortly, I can trade u if u want. He's in america, trading with americans is hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XipeTotec Posted January 5, 2008 He's in america, trading with americans is hard. ahhh, ic... perhaps not then... did think his title was a bit odd (legal ones) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 5, 2008 (edited) Lophophora is illegal in Aus. RIGHT? BTW, that cactus may or may not be psychoactive... It's a suspect! Edited January 5, 2008 by Teotz' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XipeTotec Posted January 5, 2008 Lophophora is illegal in Aus. RIGHT?BTW, that cactus may or may not be psychoactive... It's a suspect! no, its not illegal. except act, as far as I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace Posted January 6, 2008 Yep, lophophora are illegal in the ACT, but perfectly legal elsewhere. Only problem is that it is a prohibited import (and possibly export), so what we have over here has all come from older collectors/collections (legally) or illegally imported seeds. As for active species, the trichs are the most known and recognised apart from lophs for mescaline activity. Most of the lesser knowns are very under-studied in regards to actives and as Auxin mentioned, some are incorrectly listed (across the internet, not just on your list). Do yourself a favour and search until you cant search no more, then try your best to filter out the crap from the facts (easier to say than do). Always try to take info from fairly good sites/books too. So, if you are looking for cacti to make you go kookoo, look for the well known active trichs. If you are looking to actually cultivate cacti with a little interesting history, lophs (williamsii in perticular - if legal in your area) and the others already on your list (the false peyotes) would be worth looking into. But, being an Aussie website, most of us here wont be able to assist in helping you find seed/plants. You should be able to find most common species (mamms, astros, echinos, opuntias, etc) at your local nurseries that specialise in cacti (even if they only have a few). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 6, 2008 (edited) so, if you are looking for cacti to make you go kookoo, look for the well known active trichs. but thats BORING! I have trichocereus that will make me go nuts! I'm not even really concerned with tripping anymore.... I just want to discover new entheogens! But, being an Aussie website, most of us here wont be able to assist in helping you find seed/plants. It wouldn't be to hard to ship seeds...but plants...ya. Edited January 6, 2008 by Teotz' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace Posted January 7, 2008 It wouldn't be to hard to ship seeds...but plants...ya. I havent tried it, but from what I have heard, it can be a real pain to try to get things exported from Aus (even seeds). Generally, those who have tried to help out people from overseas have found nothing but problems and recommend not doing it due to the hassles involved. Still, if you make some good friends around here, you might find someone willing to put in the hard work. but thats BORING! I have trichocereus that will make me go nuts! I'm not even really concerned with tripping anymore.... I just want to discover new entheogens! I have read a few of your posts on the nook and those on this forum, and this has been one of your main problems. You have been searching for some magical peruvianus which has a huge mescaline count and then after being shown that it was probably just myth, you have since disliked the trichs. Fair enough, once you have a few you like to focus on others, but dont underestimate the beauty that can be found in unusual trichs. They still have the entheogen factor, and they are very fast growing. If you are looking for other cacti species with the entheogen tag, then look on webstores such as sacred succulents or generic cacti vendors. And you could always expand your entheogenic interests to those plants outside of the cactaceae. I seriously doubt you will ever discover new entheogens when you are just looking at tried and true plants (perticularly cacti), but of course there could be something that has been overlooked or just understudied. If you really want to find something totally new in the western world (like salvia divinorum, or psilocybe mushrooms), then I'd look deeply into amazonian plants. The amazon contains some of (if not the) most diverse amount of species in the world. There are no doubt plenty of unrecognised species that could be used ceremoniously if one were to look hard enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaBReT00tH Posted January 7, 2008 I believe Lophs recently became illegal in VIC. Teotz --> maybe the magical peruvianus strain ur looking for is the Icaro strain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark80 Posted January 8, 2008 Teotz --> maybe the magical peruvianus strain ur looking for is the Icaro strain? I think it was said to be blue peruvian with blood red spines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 8, 2008 (edited) you have since disliked the trichs. DISLIKED TRICHOCEREUS?!?!??! NOW you've gone to FAR! I love Trichocereus cacti! They are my one of my main interest. The Icaro strain is a very good candidate for a "true" T. peruvianus or macrogonoid. Here is a list of plants I wish to cultivate and employ Entheogenically- Harvestable Specimens- Are intended to be grown quickly yet potently, and harvested for use. They specimens should have quality genetics, be grown properly and should be harvested and cured correctly to ensure potency. Lactuca virosa Banisteriopsis caapi "cielo" Psychotria viridis (Potent) Passiflora incarnata Psilocybain Mushrooms Salvia divinorum Argyreia Nervosa, Turbina corymbosa and/or Ipomoea violacea Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea) and/or Scared Lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) Potent Trichocereus species Erythroxylum species "Sweet leaf, High alkaloids" Silene capensis and/or Calea zacatechichi Cannabis sativa Nicotiana spp. "Low nicotine, High flavor" Mitragyna speciosa "Red vein" Hops (For Brewing) Camellia sinensis Aspalathus linearis Ilex Paraguariensis Ephedra sinica Piper methysticum Papaver somniferum Botanical Preservation Specimens- Are grown slowly, potently and are intended to preserve the species. Harvest is optional if the plants should need to be trimmed or the like. These specimens should have the best genetics and should be keep as pristine and blemish free as possible. Trichocereus macrogonus; peruvianus; pachanoi; bridgesii and terschecki (Purest strains possible) Trichocereus spp. (Four-ribs, Genetically stable, Active) Trichocereus spp. var. monstrose clustering/clumping Trichocereus spp. "Legendary Peruvianus" (Sky blue skin, Long red spines and High alkaloids) Salvia divinorum Oncidium ceboletta, Cypripedium calceolus, Oncidium longifolium and other psychoactive orchids. Banisteriopsis caapi "cielo" Psychotria viridis Diplopterys cabrerana Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea) and/or Scared Lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) Argyreia Nervosa Turbina corymbosa Silene capensis Tabernanthe iboga Heimia salicifolia ~ Sinicuichi Quararibea funebris ~ Cacahuaxochitl Ephedra sinica Piper methysticum Sceletium tortuosum Mitragyna speciosa and many, many more! "Peyotes"- Ariocarpus fissuratus Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus Astrophytum asterias Aztekium ritteri Coryphantha compacta Epithelantha micromeris Lophophora williamsii Mammillaria craigii Obregonia denegrii Pelecyphora strobiliformis Strombocactus disciformis Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele Turbinicarpus pseudopectinatus Edited January 8, 2008 by Teotz' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 8, 2008 (edited) I think it was said to be blue peruvian with blood red spines. I'm looking for a very elusive and rare Trichocereus peruvianus/marcogonus cactus... There is much confusion among the Trichocereus genus and there is no "true" T. peruvianus but I'm looking for a Trichocereus cactus with the following features- Sky blue Skin 2in+(over 40mm) thick tapering spines Red-brown spines Distinct V-shaped notches above areoles The older central spines DO NOT swell at the point of attachment to the areoles. The entheogenic potency revials that of Lophophora. What's wrong with attempting to find a cactus like that? So what if I never get it.... it's fun looking. Edited January 8, 2008 by Teotz' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace Posted January 8, 2008 I love Trichocereus cacti! Sorry, from the snippets that I had read on the Nook, it had seemed that you were firmly against trichs after people told you that your search for the 'blood-red spined, blue peruvian cactus' was a waste of time (I could have very well missed a bit of that conversation - I was talking about what I'd seen). I am stoked that you like the trichs - they are a hugely diverse and incredibly interesting genera. I would continue your search for this mythical cactus - but perhaps start turning to cross bred seedlings, not those found in the wild (but it could still prove worth looking). I have managed to get both a white spined and a short spined peruvianus out of the same batch of standard seeds (11 in total - the rest look almost identical ['normal' peruvianus], just these two with unusual [but awesomely cool] spination). I think that's where there is plenty of discoveries waiting to be made. Well, not so much discoveries, more just dumb luck In regards to some of the plants you have listed - I would love to do the same with many of the species you have listed (as I'm sure almost everyone here would love to do also). Only downside is that most are illegal, and will likely be for the length of our lives. How do you intend to do all this growing and consuming when most cannot be done where you are? You also mentioned that you wouldnt want to grow poppies anywhere near your house - why would any of the other illegal plants be different (due to heroin heads hanging around or something?)? Best of luck on this journey of discoveries - I certainly hope that you are successful in propagating the rarer species (perticularly the cacti!), and discover something totally new and unheard of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 8, 2008 Tabernanthe iboga, Papaver somniferum, Cannabis sativa and Psilocybain Mushrooms are the only ones on my list that are illegal in the USA, but of course I don't live in the USA, I live in Anarctica. I think a cop could examine an Iboga plant and have no clue what it was... Even if you told them it was "Iboga" I still think he would have no clue. Papaver somniferum will be grown many, many miles from my home and only collected only a few times a year. The pods would be sliced at dusk and scraped at dawn. Cannabis sativa and mushrooms would be grown indoors once a year, and hopefully harvesting enough to last me an entire year. Basically I want my own shamanic medicene cabinet. So I can cure most all of my ailments- of both mind and body. The opium would only be collected in extremely small amounts and only used as a medical pain killer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 8, 2008 Mods will you move this to the "Chill Space", it's not really a trade forum anymore... Here's a pic of my favorite Trichocereus- My Home Cactus Garden- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark80 Posted January 8, 2008 I think you'll find erythroxylum is also banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 9, 2008 Only Erythroxylum coca, not other Erythroxylum species. Let me say I won't be doing any extracts on ANY of my plants, that could get me in alot of trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark80 Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) Sky blue Skin - mine is definely bluer in rela life, don't know about sky blue though. 2in+(over 40mm) thick tapering spines - yep Red-brown spines - yep Distinct V-shaped notches above areoles - lacking sadly The older central spines DO NOT swell at the point of attachment to the areoles. - yep The entheogenic potency revials that of Lophophora. - Won't test but is pretty bitter (and spiny) when i lick it Edited January 13, 2008 by mark80 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 13, 2008 That's awesome man! Looks nice! You get the "Sky Blue Teotz' Stamp of Approval". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark80 Posted January 13, 2008 You get the "Sky Blue Teotz' Stamp of Approval". just what i always wanted It was orignially givern to me, i never quite figured out what it was, i placed it down to be macrogonoid, which is now a useless term. IS that kinda what you've been lookin for? Apart fomr the v notches i think it does a good job of your description. Maybe I iwll send you a cut and then your search will be over.... lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted March 10, 2009 If anybody has any seeds or cutting which they think might be a nice blue peruvianus let me know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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