why are pirates pirates?

[cactuslizardmagick]

looking for some PC software ...

Adobe Premier

Virtual DJ

Adobe Lightroom

have a few to offer if anyone is interested

[Amulte]

this is not a piracy forum, theres plenty out on the net, also plenty of websites too.

your looking in the wrong place i think. this forum doesnt condone illegal things. LOL just discusses them

phazeddl, easywarez, or maybe download emule or limewire.

or better yet, dont pirate software.

[devance]

Well some people don't have the money to buy alot of good software or bad software.

But if wants to download, better get the the best security suite available as the first.

No wants of time problem with elimination of computer infections.

Or other problems.

Like Gonorrhea.

A few days later it not as fun as a one night stand as getting it.

[Auxin]

I do not know this Adobe lightroom (L.), is it some form of fungus?

[saibot]

I am not flaming you but Warez are bad news.

Get off Windowz or OSX and switch to Open Source. GNU Linux or GNU BSD. No virus no nasties trying to infect your computer.

Get a free copy of GNU linux with Cinerella, Gimp, Blender, Ardour Etc for your multimedia needs and your in business.

Support free software and the software quality gets better and better.

by stealing form the monopolies that run the world does nothing just makes them created more sophisticated mechanisms to lock you in. Supporting and contributing to an alternative open sharing system brings freedom.

[hebrew]

yeah go open source

i love linux

[The Dude]

yeah go open source

i love linux

maybe once non for profit open source programmers have the incentive (no profit) to produce proffessional software as produced by adobe autodesk and corel painter is nutter for emulating paint with a tablet, and there is all the driver support... maybe all will be good some day. It's all good... in Theory, like communism, software needs capital and competition for innovation and the money for the tedius work of tweaking and perfecting. Old school established corporations own at the moment i guess.

I'm wanting to get into Video editing and manipulation with some 3d splicing or what have you.. fractacular footage filter stuff.. question is, how does open source rate with cutting edge visual tools? I guess a lot of fractal software is written that way, and cuz its open source its easier to modify and improve.. as a collective! Open Source is such a cool uniting hippy sort of ideal, i dig it. I just wish it had better shit and was easier for idiots to use.

[hebrew]

this is true some open source software could be better for instance with music production the options for quality software that does a wide range of tasks like other windows and mac software does. its true open source could be a bit better. but gimp is pretty good if you are wanting do to image manipulation.

however with music rosegarden for linux is ok i need to play around with it some more to learn it some more.

but in other cases open source is pretty good.

as far as OS linux i prefer to windows i have not played around with mac much. but isnt mac based upon a linux kernel or something???

[apothecary]

Pirates are pirates because information wants to be free.

As for linux driver support, I haven't had a single call from anyone requesting help with their Ubuntu install in about a year. I get probably two calls a week from people with broken Vista.

The point is that open source software doesn't have to be good, just good enough that the 'for money' guys will be kept on their toes

[saibot]

Open Source is not a hippy ideal and it is definitely profitable. Checkout the open source financial model that Troll tech, Canonical, Novel or Sun use. Watch more companies open their code bases up and embrase the open source financial model over the next few years to be competitive. Yes even microsft has begun the transition. Apple also has their system core open >OpenDarwin > which originally was a port of BSD. Nokia now use linux as it mobile phone base and its software open.

Believe it or not Torsten's SAB model is an open source fiscal model. He allows amazing amount of sharing and still survives > why is this? because it is open.

I disagree with open source only having to be good enough to keep the major software manufactures on it toes. Open source software is better. it makes for better code hence the amazing growth of the freely available operating systems over the last 5 years. Software houses like Adobe, Autodesk (whom I use program for) have old 15 year code bases > no wonder their products are more advanced. When Open code bases reach that maturity you will see software that is complete amazing, much beyond any private closed software. Compare the GNU Linux system 10 year open code base to the Microsoft 25 year closed code base. Which is better and faster the the open one.

As for software being lesser: Apache PHP MYSQL drives the internet (this forum inculded). School of Audio Engineering UK uses Ardour as its Digital audio workstation. Open office is equal to MS office. As for their not being the support for for film technologies i would challenge you to find film studios not using linux or writing their own software for it. Cinepaint is used widely used for post processing. Cinerella is as good as Final Cut. Blender is now being used for 3D and post work. the list goes on and will continue to grow.

I will use a guitarist analogy. A budding guitarist acquires all of the highest quality equipment, (amazing effects units, Super Duper Tube Amp stack, some American, factory, robot made guitar) but does not make him sound or play any better. Give a disciplined guitarist a cheap Chinese plywood guitar and he/she will make is sound amazing. A technology/tool is only as good as its users skill and creativity.

Pirates are Pirates because they are Greedy

Thanks for listening

[spacedracula]

Why are pirates pirates?.......'Coz they just ARGH! (my little nephew told me that one haha)

[ThunderIdeal]

hey man, i got called all sorts of things using that joke in here. i believe "should be shot" was one of them.

... and my delivery was better.

[chilli]

Okay, well I think I said this joke already, but now it is topical:

Q. Why don't pirates ever have any Panadol?

A. Because the paracetemol.

Haha, I actually love that joke.

Open source options for DAWS completely suck

[spacedracula]

Its only fitting to hijack a thread with pirate jokes ARGH!!

A man walks down the street and see's a pirate with a big ships steering wheel for a belt buckle, so the man walks up to the pirate and asks

"doesnt that thing get in your way?"

the pirate replies "what do you think matey, its driving me nuts!"

Have you had any luck with finding the open source stuff? You'd have a good shot putting up a wanted notice on your uni noticeboard, i picked up a legit Creative Suite for half price doing that, and i got offered alot of pirate stuff for next to nothing too.

[saibot]

What electronic music do pirates listen to?

Rum n' Bass!

Open Source DAW equal to Cubase Neundo etc. free for you scurvy dogs : http://ardour.org/

Ye old VST Plugins via >> http://ladspavst.linuxaudio.org/?q=node/905

Jack will get all ye old audio softwares working together >> http://jackaudio.org/

So you psy guys can use jack to link together :

http://www.linuxsampler.org/ - sampler

http://www.hydrogen-music.org/ - drum machine

http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/ - software synth

http://filter24.org/seq24/ - minimal loop based midi sequencer

http://qsynth.sourceforge.net/ - another synth

https://sourceforge.net/projects/bristol - Moog, Sequencial Circuits, Oberheim, Yamaha, Roland, Hammond, Korg, ARP, and Vox algorithms.

http://jack-rack.sourceforge.net/ - effects rack

If ye can't make music with that then ye better walk the plank and swim the sharks.

If ye had the skills of Autechre all ye need is MAX

http://freesoftware.ircam.fr/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=14

no software can beat a reel to reel, a cutlass and some scotch tape.