SirLSD Posted March 7, 2007 these two are my best two by far. all 4 are cardona if my labeling is correct. some other pics in my blog. both had 2 seedling grafted to them. one on each has taken off. the other two have sat dormant. have now cut the pup off the second one to graft. hows everyone elses going? cardona1_050307.bmp cardona2_050307.bmp cardona1_050307.bmp cardona2_050307.bmp cardona1_050307.bmp cardona2_050307.bmp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Blister Posted March 8, 2007 (edited) Not so good on my front. Learning as I go. From 8 loph scions, two look like they have taken, touch and go though. One 'texana' and one 'caespitosa' grafted to peres. Currently germinating some 'decipiens' for grafting. Got some scopulicola x lageniformis grown from seed that I may graft soon. How long have your grafts been on? Edited March 8, 2007 by Kenny Blister Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirLSD Posted March 8, 2007 2 from 8 is better than ive had. both grafted on 04/02/07 i think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tobias Posted March 8, 2007 Mine haven't gone too well either. I grafted 8 or 9 Loph seedlings to peres on 4/2, two of them have definitely taken and have maybe tripled in size. They are still nowhere near as big as yours SirLSD. The other 3 that remain alive have shrivelled a lot and haven't grown any bigger. I noticed earlier this morning what appears to be a single small root sticking out of two of the shrivelled scions so have pretty much given up hope on them. I'll be doing some more grafts this weekend, hopefully with better results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Blister Posted March 9, 2007 Mine are shrivelled too Only been grafted for two weeks (texana) and a week (caespitose). At what point after grafting do they begin to fill out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tobias Posted March 9, 2007 I'm not really sure how long they usually take to fill out. It was a bit over 2 weeks from memory for the 2 successful ones that I've got to show any signs of fattening up. They didn't shrivel all that much in the first place though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuG Posted March 10, 2007 a month on and my 3 grafts haven't really grown that much, one has gone a reddish colour, but i'm not wooried about that, pics to come soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooksbooks Posted March 16, 2007 These are about 6 months old, grafted to pereskiopsis from 2 week old seedlings. I think youd have more success grafting seedlings to pereskiopsis than san pedro, graft em on to the pereskiopsis, give em about 4 or 5 months to grow and start clustering, then slice the scion about 1/4 of the way up, leaving areoles on the grafted bottom attatched. then secure the pumped up peyote to a nice trich in active growth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooksbooks Posted March 16, 2007 These are about 6 months old, grafted to pereskiopsis from 2 week old seedlings. I think youd have more success grafting seedlings to pereskiopsis than san pedro, graft em on to the pereskiopsis, give em about 4 or 5 months to grow and start clustering, then slice the scion about 1/4 of the way up, leaving areoles on the grafted bottom attatched. then secure the pumped up peyote to a nice trich in active growth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirLSD Posted March 16, 2007 now have 14 successful grafts. here is updates of the leading two. cardona_160307.bmp cardona2_160307.bmp cardona_160307.bmp cardona2_160307.bmp cardona_160307.bmp cardona2_160307.bmp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teonanacatl Posted March 16, 2007 Ill post some of mine soon but im still grafting Guys not sure how many people actually decided to enter so how bout a response in THE Official threa i will start and make sticky, EBA went down but the comp can continue and some prizes will be issued according to what it said on EBA, hopefully Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted March 22, 2007 sweet guys i missed the startup of the graft thread can you post details ive been grafting all summer and could enter some im doing them by batches got v. Cardona Koehresii Fricii Diffusa Huizache caespitosa decipiens las colorades ramos arispe texana cuatrocienegas cedral mex 54 la paloma weisse blute with nearly 20 other seed collections ready to be grafted and a metric shitload of 'standard' and mixed types also doing turbinicarpus, astrophytums and other species as i go no matter how many peres i make i can never keep up - even with multipe grafts to each peres! im working on a 'graft pole' using koehresii- itll make a nice pic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted March 22, 2007 anyone found any freaks yet? ive had a few bifurcated seedlings and a coulpe appearing to variegate but then not i know if i grow enough ill find a cristate or chlorophyll lacking loph Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KanJe Posted March 22, 2007 i know if i grow enough ill find a cristate or chlorophyll lacking loph Hey Rev, I'm curious what you ment by a chlorophyll lacking loph. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellonasty Posted March 22, 2007 (edited) Hey Rev, I'm curious what you ment by a chlorophyll lacking loph. Mate that is the cause of variegated plants The yellowish looking parts are lacking Chlorophyll (it is not evenly distributed) and its commonly called a variegated plant. Edited March 22, 2007 by Hellonasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teonanacatl Posted March 22, 2007 Yay rev is back, hope your gonna post more now dude :D The details were at EBA, but its fucked now and I didnt keep a copy of the rules only the prizes. Essentially no grafts before 4th of feb and seeds were allowed to be sown at start of january yeah? As only me and sirlsd has actually replied in my grafting thread sticky I take this is all that are entering, Im happy to change the date as Ill be sowing and grafting all year so if its ok with sir maybe we should reschedual and start again, and this time people get ready ahead of time. Let me know what you think. I have a loph graft that is 0.8cm and is growing a flower, unfortunatly I sowed it before the date for the peres comp lol so I cannot use it to win :D but it hasta be the smallest ever flowering loph? My leader is about 3cm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KanJe Posted March 22, 2007 Cheers Hellnasty, thats handy to know. I've seen it in other plants as well. What is usually the cause? Lack of sun or nutrients? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellonasty Posted March 22, 2007 Cheers Hellnasty, thats handy to know.I've seen it in other plants as well. What is usually the cause? Lack of sun or nutrients? As far as I know it is just a "mutation" of the plant make up, environment will have no effect on it. It is basically just a luck of the draw where something goes wrong with the cells when they are produced. Hence they are rare and therefore sought after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Blister Posted March 22, 2007 As only me and sirlsd has actually replied in my grafting thread sticky I take this is all that are entering lol, I'm in, but so far my few grafts haven't taken. Always sowing more seeds so hopefully I'll get it right and have something to enter. I do have a wierd looking loph that is growing an 'arm', but am afraid to graft it in case it meets with the same fate as the others. Could this be the bifurcation you speak of Rev? It's not exactly dividing in two though. I'm flat out atm, but will try and get a pic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaBReT00tH Posted March 22, 2007 I have one of those arm growing seedlings too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace Posted March 23, 2007 Hello all - you are certainly collecting a few nice grafts in the comp! Congrats! Just a quick question, how are people finding the differences in grafting stocks? Is there a pattern emerging to show that peres/trichs are better for baby seedlings? I only have a few loph seedlings and limited stock atm, and would like to give it a shot, but want to go the best method available. Any ideas would be much appreciated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KanJe Posted March 24, 2007 (edited) I've often thought about using maybe a Cylindropuntia of some sort. I've thought it might work pretty well as it has such rapid growth to establish its self well. I'm currious to whether this is very common with grafting? Dunno Ace, think its a good idea...? Edited March 24, 2007 by KanJe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirLSD Posted March 25, 2007 Im happy to change the date as Ill be sowing and grafting all year so if its ok with sir maybe we should reschedual and start again, and this time people get ready ahead of time. Let me know what you think. i have used up all my grafting stock. even cut off boring grafts to make more stock available. if we have to start again i cant be in it. only have a couple of seeds left too. we had a month or two notice the first time. but we could extend the rules to allow peolpe to start late and finish late? say sow 4th april and graft 4th may and measure 4th may 08. then compare to our results for the 4th feb 08. if we keep track of the dates people start then any 12month period should be ok. pic of two unlabeled grafts. both have taken. both pupping madly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teonanacatl Posted March 25, 2007 thats good enough for me man, there wont be a new date set for a new comp, untill next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites