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That is just a fantastic looking plant there ferret. So healthy and happy looking. Awesome work.

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Well done ferret, nice to see how healthy it is, and interesting to hear you have repotted it.

Nice to see you online Gerbil.

I missed you both when i was in melbourne recently, would have been nice to catch up, but i should have made the effort to contact you. though you might be at the meet :D

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These three are all the same age ~ 10 months - i will check their actual age from the thread where i posted the original photos..

The smallest had no love, planted in crud/no name brand potting mix - it's growth stalled after about 1 month.

The phleb the second had half sand washed and 50:50 Yates/Searles propagation mix.

The thirdthe phleb has had an all premium searles propagating mix to live in and was sprouted in paper towel a good 2-3 weeks after the other two slow coaches.

i might sing some love songs to the first two the phlebs and re-pot them in a better mix while we still have some warm days.

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ethy it looks like the soil mix for the first two probably has no root-nodule forming nitrogen bacteria

present (just guessing).

When you repot em it would be worth adding some fresh soil from around the

roots of a big healthy acacia thats in the ground.

A Ph test may also give some answers to why they stalled.

*edit- number 3 looks awesome!

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These were grown from the seed from folias. Seedlings are just on three months old.

I got 8 out of 10 to germinate by giving them a filing and putting in 75° water to soak overnight. Then I planted in some granity soil I scavanged from a recently turned over logging area which had tons of healthy little acacias popping up.

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^

Lookin good!

I have some seed to sow, but I get nervous everytime I think about sowing them!

The plan was to wait until spring, as my climate is a bit harsh during winter (zone 8 - Illustro has informed me)

Would it be stupid to try and start them now indoors and move them into the greenhouse in spring?

Or should I wait my patience?

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I would wait for spring. but you could do it now.

Strange as it seems, i have always had bad luck growing acacis in greenhouses. they seem to die quickly.

Grow them outside, they are very hardy, and its good way to let natural survival of the fittest happen. I know people dont want their plants to die, but i would think you would get more die trying to harden them off to the natural environment after being protected in a greenhouse.

Cheer.

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Sweet as, cheers for the reply.

Perhaps the cold might even be helpful to my cause, as I remember reading they could handle down to -10!

Thanks again

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Awesome Interbeing, nice!

I should go check mine see how they are doing. I dont think mine are old enough to start flowering though.

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Went and checked my Phlebs this morning. no evidence of flowering yet, still too young, but lots of new growth. looks like they are going to power this year.

hopefully i'll start getting flowers next year :D

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Wow so many Phleb grow logs of late .. not sure where to post this.

Anyway, Given i had a little free time lately (rare i know) thought id better get on to growing some seedlings, and try an experiment.

Anyway, got onto growing some Phleb seeds. It's been about four weeks since germination, this time around i got 100% germination, and so far none have died off:

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Will see how they go. These are four of the better plants so far.

Will post updates as i go.

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I received 10 phleb seeds a couple years ago, but didn't have the balls to sow them. At this point, I've been playing with TC for a couple of years so put a few in agar. Clearly, they don't like synthetic fert salts so I'm working on some processes to mitigate their sensitivity, but haven't worked things out well enough to post them. One out of 6 is off and running with signs of life from a couple others. Hot water treatment got them swollen, but they would not pop so I cut their coats off with a scalpel. Here's the best one a couple days ago:post-3181-0-25011100-1394726084_thumb.jp

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Beautiful plant spun, the leaf is quite different to wild ones though isn't it..growing conditions..?

fkn RAWRZ !!! what an amazing plant , but also what an amazing photograph!

and has anybody tried grafting with Acacias? maybe it could be grafted to a more all rounder root stock a la malus species (apples)

or am I chasing shadows?

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Ey up.

Time for an update.

Here are the two plants that i uploaded pictures for earlier this year:

first:

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compared to earlier this year:

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again compared to earlier this year:

Looking healthy lots of new growth. They have had had to deal with an unusual spring here with lots of moisture, wind, and the occassional blistering hot day - i.e normal tassie weather.

tolerating the sandy soil fine.

Cheers, Ob.

updates on my two best plants

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and two:

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So happy with how these are going.

fingers crossed for flowers this year or next. :D

looking like they might even do the bolt this year interesting to see how much they grow in six months, they are sure happy

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hey obtuse , the ones in the ground get full sun yeah? also were bouts do u live ?? i have a couple in pots but they struggle with the heat.

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Yeah the ones in the ground get full fun, mostly mid morning to early afternoon sun due to the surrounding bush.

Im in southern tasmania, get good extremes where they are, but minimum is no colder than -4 although they will take much colder than that. having said that we get pretty hot here in Tas, as i would expect in Vic too. but perhaps they can tolerate the extremes better can consistency. and prefer dry air over humidity. depends where you are Bullit.

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cheers mate , thats why yours look sooo good i dont get the cold like they want lol i live on the southeast qld fucken hot now and dry. .

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Damn fine looking plants everyone! yeh bullit mine doesn't thrive in hottest part of summer, I try to get mine behind some other plants when it gets scorching to provide some dappled shade..

Busted out one short inflorescence first week of spring.

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somewhere around 5 years old, 40cm pot with native potting mix. Repotted 4 times.

For the last year or so I have been keeping it pretty wet, not so much during winter when it wasn't growing much at all. Kinda been treating it like a Trichocereus i suppose, wetter recently.

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At first sign of winter warming I potted on into a marginally larger pot with just a couple cm's fresh mix under the rootball, and a bit on top to cover exposed roots. a sprinkle of slow release native granules mixed in. Since then I have been watering the hell out of it, t pot drains very well because it is so 'rootbound'..

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Fantastic. nice to see ferret.

goes to show they dont need a huge amount of root space, and given their habitat adapted to small soil profile, and getting everything they can out of the soil.

Im sure nodulation is an essential aspect of their survival too. do you look to see how nodulated are the root then you repot?

Also interesting to see you have no issues with repotting, as i recall reading that that was a no-no way back. trying to find where maybe i am mistaken.

found this: http://www.lycaeum.org/~mulga/acacia/cult2.html great to see its still online

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i have seen nodules at other repottings but didn't really notice any the last time.. next time I see some I can send a few out to people if anyone wanna try inoculating half of their seedlings

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i usually make a slurry from soil from around the roots of other Acacia species, let it settle and pour off the water onto my seeds and seedlings. the bacteria should be present within the soil, and likewise be in suspension within the water.

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