amanito Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Yes, my first cactusflower this year and it's my most special plant that is flowering !My other lophoturbina is pupping. I wanna make pups withing one or two months and graft them to spread them here on the forum. A handful of my ariocarpuscollection:greeeetz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1no Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Nice flower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cisumevil Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Stunning, I love those little guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Awesome pics Amanito - you must be proud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanito Posted April 20, 2007 Author Share Posted April 20, 2007 very proud. I hope I can clone them !Ps, what would happen if I cross this with other loph. will ?? That would be wicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Me too! Not sure, but it will gain more and more of the williamsii's characteristics the more you cross it. i.e. if you have a 50/50 lophxturbina and cross it with a loph, you'll end up with a 75/25 lophxturbina. Do it again, and the loph genetics will likely increase again. But I guess this is not guaranteed - only the dominant genes will come thru in the offspring, if that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusto Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Very nice!By all means, hit her up with some Loph pollen if you have one flowering.Would def be a shame to let that flower go to waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 nice onei have lophs and turb lophophoroides grafted ive been hoping to make the same well done. they look greatalso you can make mammilaria loph hybrids as welland there are unsanswered quiestions about x fertility of Lophs and obregonias, strombocactus and ariocarpusyoull never fall short of work in this field :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auxin Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Beauty <___base_url___>/uploads/emoticons/default_smile.pnggusto, in that that specimen is an F1 hybrid the flower wont go to waste if it self pollinates, most every seed from an F1 produces a plant that is noticeably different from the rest and in my experience the explosion of plant characteristics in F2 is where a breeder really starts to get a good idea of where the breeding program should head... for instance Turbinacarpus lophophoroides has thorns, Lophophora williamsii has lil tuffs of hair, Turbinacarpus lophophoroides x Lophophora williamsii F1 appears to have the loph style tuffs of hair implying that spines are recessive to hair thus theres a good chance in the F2 generation there will be a few with thorns, take those and breed with peyote and in the F2 of that cross select for thorns again and keep going like that and before long you'll have a thorny peyote. Thats how ya breed something new <___base_url___>/uploads/emoticons/default_smile.pngRev, have you noticed how everything lophs hybridize with seem to be in Subfamily Cactoideae Tribe Cacteae? The barrel cacti Ferocactus spp. and Echinocactus spp. are in that tribe too <___base_url___>/uploads/emoticons/default_newimprovedwinkonclear.gif someone should see if those will breed with loph. If they cant then a plant they can breed with which can breed with loph should be located to act as a genetic bridge. Call me crazy but a 3% mescaline cactus the size of a washing machine is probably just a matter of time, effort, and creativity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 well i do have a few of thoseas good a reason as any to keep the collecting net wide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shruman Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 What sort of ramifacations does this have for people were lophs are illegal?Would a Loph x b illegal in the U.S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanito Posted April 20, 2007 Author Share Posted April 20, 2007 What sort of ramifacations does this have for people were lophs are illegal?Would a Loph x b illegal in the U.S?Don't think so. It's only the lophophora spp. that is banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanito Posted April 20, 2007 Author Share Posted April 20, 2007 also you can make mammilaria loph hybrids as wellMamm. Lophophoroides? Never heard of that one. Do you have links of shops who sell them? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanito Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 I'm searching someone specialised in tissue-culture who can help me to clone this unique plant in order to spread it worldwide. I don't have a lot of money so I hope somewhere here 's got the skills to clone a few pups.Thnx in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auxin Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Mamm. Lophophoroides?I believe he meant Lophophora spp. X Mammillaria spp. hybrids.As for clones wouldnt it be far cheaper to get a pup, graft it onto a Pereskiopsis or Echinopsis (or alternately do a areole graft onto Pereskiopsis.. Link ) and turn it into a pup factory, graft those, and get plants that way? That is if you can induce pupping, some growers use a BAP gel applied to areoles to induce pupping but I'm not sure how risky that might beI wouldnt blame you one bit if you wanted to keep that pretty cactus as pristine as possible, a areole graft would cause the least visable damage to the parent plant but it sounds delicate, I'd do trial runs on other cacti first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanito Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 I believe he meant Lophophora spp. X Mammillaria spp. hybrids.As for clones wouldnt it be far cheaper to get a pup, graft it onto a Pereskiopsis or Echinopsis (or alternately do a areole graft onto Pereskiopsis.. Link ) and turn it into a pup factory, graft those, and get plants that way? That is if you can induce pupping, some growers use a BAP gel applied to areoles to induce pupping but I'm not sure how risky that might beI wouldnt blame you one bit if you wanted to keep that pretty cactus as pristine as possible, a areole graft would cause the least visable damage to the parent plant but it sounds delicate, I'd do trial runs on other cacti first.A friend gave me an adress of a company of a old psychonaut friend of him. They are specialised in cloning on tissue-culture. I sent them a nice e-mail today (with some references in it ;)) to ask if they want to clone my plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I'm searching someone specialised in tissue-culture who can help me to clone this unique plant in order to spread it worldwide. I don't have a lot of money so I hope somewhere here 's got the skills to clone a few pups.Thnx in advance.mushmush.nlbest ive ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanito Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 I contacted already a friend of a friend . But mushmush.nl does only work for companies nowadays, I don't know if they would do it. Maybe if I mention a few friends their name.Thanks, I didn't think of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naja naja Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Doesn't Darcy here specialize in TC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus On Peyote Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Nice one, How old is the fella? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanito Posted April 29, 2007 Author Share Posted April 29, 2007 The little one about 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanito Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 Guys, the big one started roting VERY fast today. I have already lost about 5 BIG lopho's to this disease and nothing can stop this :'(. I was able to ent 3 pups . I'm sorry :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shruman Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Man I feel sorry for u that sucks bad keep em dry & low humidity & hope for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trucha Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) You might want to get and use ConSan-20 or Physan.The best thing no matter what else you do if you have a lopho starting to rot is not just stop watering it but gently remove it from all soil and let it dry out like you would healing a cutting.Drench it with ConSan or PhySan if you have that option. These are agricultural disinfectants that can kill most rot organisms and fungi. Take care not to hurt yourself by getting it in your eyes or breathing a spray mist.What are its spines like? Edited February 3, 2008 by trucha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teotzlcoatl Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 (edited) That's a really cool cactus!Nice Flower! Edited February 4, 2008 by Teotz' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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