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Adrian, I would have sent this to your private message box but it is currently full! Carl used to send an email around a month or so before each event. The list of email addresses would be a good resource to chase up. On second thoughts, there might be privacy issues about passing it on. Perhaps Carl could do a post out officially passing on the organisation role to yourself with directions for people to join a list of your own. This would have the positives of protecting peoples privacy, having some sort of semi-offical hand-over and also cleaning off the dead names from Carls current list. [ 15. February 2004, 00:47: Message edited by: somnif ]

For those with some time to kill here is a fun read which took place in Fitzroy St. about 12 years ago: County Court Judgments [ 20. January 2004, 02:24: Message edited by: somnif ]

quote: The song, One Sweet Day, originally performed as a duet by Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men, bought tears to many in the congregation That figures.

Garden World: 810 Springvale Road, Keysborough, Victoria 3173 http://www.collectorscorner.com.au/Index.htm The Cactus Garage: 3 Edward Street, Bayswater, Victoria http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~cactus/

quote: ..without your knowledge...then how could you know? Good point probably should've used the word preknowledge. Actually, you find out in court. Or in my gnomes case it was when gnomes father was talking to the lady who lived directly opposite who mentioned how some police etc. had set up shop in her front room with cameras. God knows what they told her it was all about, but suffice to say gnome was regarded by her and her family with a new degree of suspicion 51st post of the following thread adds a little more detail: 1-4b thread [ 22. July 2003, 21:34: Message edited by: somnif ]

Hmmm, Smacko's perhaps? I worked for a couple of summers in a Sheltered Workshop along side the intellectually disabled which was hand packing Schmacko clones for the Japanese market. We got to take any incomplete schmackos home and my White Dog got a couple a day for about two years afterwards. His lust for the strips never wore off. I had a friend who would eat them for a bit of a show and he seems to be still alive today so it is probably reasonably safe to experiement. [ 21. July 2003, 07:28: Message edited by: somnif ]

It is not exactly a practical classification system when, if you regard Rev for example, he actually fits into all four categories Acutally, this got me thinking (or whatever you call that process that goes round and round between your ears after being up for over 24 hours)... How about an ethnobotany 'purity' quiz, for example, it could have a section "Customs & the TGA" with question such as follows: Section: Customs & The TGA -------------------------------- 1 point: have you ever imported a plant for its medicinal properties? 2 points: was this plant a customs prohibited item? 8 points: did this *subsequently* become a prohibited item due to your particular importation? 2 points: ever have a customs officer knock on your door? 4 points: ever have a customs officer film your house without your knowledge? 6 points: ever have customs search your property (with the help of the Local plods)? 1 point: do you read the TGA scheduling comittee meeting mintues? 2 points: have you owned a plant which has *become* illegal due to TGA scheduling? 6 points: have you ever put a submittion in to the TGA with regards to attempting to stop the proposed scheduling of a plant/substance. Section: Community 3 points: have you had a public argument with Mulga (5 points if you *are* Mulga)? 3 points: have you had a public argument with Torsten (5 points if you *are* Torsten)? 5 points: have you managed to sustain a public argument with Torsten and Mulga at the same time. 1 point for everytime you've left a post in EA or SA stating you've had a gutful and will no longer be posting there anymore. (-1 point for each time you resumed posting) etc. etc. too tired to take it any further for now I also think some of my procedural stuff is wrong eg. I am uncertain if the TGA can schedule an actual plant. Oh, and my point scores are pretty random and could do with some refining. [ 21. July 2003, 12:12: Message edited by: somnif ]

Ah, it *was* a good day! It was good to see you all there. I arrived late as usual missing a good chunk of the day. Tom's talk on saliva research was especially good. Wira's reading from his book makes me wish him a speedy publishing so I can soon read the rest of it! etc. ...and CS even turned up along with his other special kohorts: in that respect it was like chill space here a couple of years ago I took me a few moments to recognise CS as he was lacking the self titled top and leather that he had worn in the past. I hope Creach found a way home as I lost him somewhere along the path. I hope Darklight did ask Bockie about his Fuktwerk (sp?) - clue: it is attached to the side of his house. Thanks for putting in the time to organise it, Carl (and others).

Being == Piers? Surely Being was the cute girl & Piers was the English chap with the strange Mickey Mouse recording ears?

quote: But those highler level experiences can be very inlightening - unless they turn dark. That about sums it up I wasn't really trying to say that high level experiences are bad, I just remember how my gnome was put off by an unexpectedly intense first experience and considered never exploring shrooms again. Using well controlled doses from threshold level and up was the best way to regain gnomes confidence. Even dark experiences can be important/useful. However it is much easier to say this a few years after the event rather than during the days following the 'opps'

quote: germinating ephedra is the easy part, making them to continue growing strong and fast is the tricky part. Exactly. Any clues on how to get the buggers past the 3rd week? Is mass planting the way to go?

George, my gnome went through almost exactly the same experience as yourself her first time with subs. My gnome was at home with her rather conservative parents when she decided have a few fresh shrooms, then a few more, then opps, then she thought that the bedside lamp was her arm, then complete depersonalisation, then ?, then finding herself watching life evolve on the shower basin. Many lessons learnt. Some cosmic. More practical. It took her a while to make the choice to try shrooms again but this time with some sort of reasonably accurate measuring device which takes a large chunk of 'opps' out of the experience. Low dose shrooms are really fun. Unexpected high doses give an appreciation for what schitzophrenia might feel like. One positive which came out of this 'opps' situation was the discovery of the anti-depressant effects which my gnome would get for a couple of weeks after the trip. It sounds like you did no lasting damage except for teaching yourself a lesson of the power of shrooms :-) Give it a rest for a while, but don't be afraid of exploring low doses if you feel the calling. Low doses are very different and much more controlable than high doses. [ 02. July 2003, 05:31: Message edited by: somnif ]

quote: was it glass that did the score for a Z & 2 noughts? Michael Nyman did that soundtrack (as well as many others). I recommend the Gatacia soundtrack which has a slow brooding sort of feel about it (a couple of years since I have listened to it though)

I went and saw Einstien On The Beach by Philip Glass when it was on here in Melbourne during 1993 or there abouts. It was a amazing. The production seemed to be driven towards distorting your sense of time. Being err, slightly altered, enhanced the whole experience. It was a *long* production, over five hours long if I remember correctly. I really enjoy Glass's music but I have found that his newer stuff fails to surprise me. Having just downloaded the Naqoyqatsi soundtrack I am again not surprised but impressed. It sounds wonderful. Better than Kundun (spelling?) which was the most recent CD of his I have purchased.

quote: BTW, I can confirm the effect of low dose Salvia on orgasm. Hmmm, somnif is looking at his hypothetical Saliva with renewed interest. quote: A borderline subthreshold sublingual dose of salvia was brought right into the superthreshold range at orgasm. What sort of dosage of plant material would you be looking at to get to this point? When you say sublingual I assume that the method is to chew and then hold under the tounge over a period of time?