Auxin Posted August 18, 2003 I was just reading through some bioassay reports again and I had the idea to make a page with appropriate descriptive terms to use in these reports. We've all heard the ubiquitous term 'mild marijuana like high' used incorrectly a hundred times, then you get stuff like 'kinda sorta divinorumesque but not really' ( gee- that helps doesnt it ). So I'm trying to remember appropriate medical terminology to define on the page- but my memory gets foggy with medical words. The ones I can think of at the moment are: Anxiolytic Anxiogenic Aperitive (gives you the munchies) Apsychosis (loss of the function of thought) Depressant Euphoriant Laxative Stimulant Hallucinogenic (definitions for auditory, tactile, olfactory, and visual hallucinations) Emetic Convulsant Antitussive (releives or prevents coughing) Antipyretic (reduces fever) Psychotomimetic So what are some of them that I'm missing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mescalito Posted August 18, 2003 Heya Auxin , Alteratives-agents that gradually alter a condition. Anthelmintics/Vermifuges-Expel worms. Astringents-firm the skin or mucous membrane. Bitter Tonics-stimulate gastric/saliva production. Bland Dietetics-non-stimulating,non-irritating,easily digested nutritive botanicals. Calmatives-mild calming effect. Carminatives/Aromatics-fragrants. Cathartics-Cause bowel evacuation. Demulcents-mucilaginous and blandnature,for internal protective coating-like properties. Diaphoretics-Cause sweating. Diuretics-Psssssssssss! Emollients-Skin softening. Expectorants-Loosen phlegm. Nervines-Relaxes temporarily. Refrigerants-Cool the body temp. Vulnerary's-Applied to minor external wounds(mainly for the chlorophyll) That's all I can find Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBumpy Posted August 18, 2003 I'll just copy the list from one of my Herbal Medicine Text books Abortifacient: - bye bye little fetus Adaptogen : helps the body deal with stress Analgesic : pain relief Anaphrodisiac : kesseb sexual functions and desires (PURE EVIL!!) Anodyne : ease pain Antacid : neutralise stomach acid anthelmintic : expel or destroy parasitic worms in the GI Antiarthritic : relieve and heal arithitic conditions anticatarrhal : reduces catarrh or excessive mucus secretion Anti-coagulant : slows or prevents blood clotting antidote : counteracts or neutralises a poison ANti-lithic : prevent formation of calculi or gravel in Urinary system Anti-mitotic : inhibits division of cells anti-neoplastic : inhibits or destroys tumous Antipyretic : prevents or reduces fever Antiscorbutic : prevents or cures scurvy Antiseptic : prevent, resist and counteract infection Antispasmodic: reduce or prevent excessive involuntary muscular contractions or spasms Anti-sudorific :stops or prevents sweating antitussive : relieves or reduces coughing Aperient : mild laxative on the bowels Astringent : contracts tissues...making htem firmer and reduces discharges Aphrodisiac : the one we know and love Bitter : bitter taste..promotes digestive function Bronchodilator : increases diameter of pulmonary air passages Cardio-active : acts on the heart Cardiotonic : beneficial action on the heart Carminative : improves digestion and relieves the discomfort of flatulence and colic Cathartic : causes evacuation of the bowels Cholagogue : stimulates or aids the release of bile form hte gall bladder Choleretic : stimulates production of bile in liver Counterirritant : increases local circulation when applied topically Demulcent : soothing an protective internally to irritated tissues and surfaces De-obstruent : removes obstructions from the body by improving hte normal channels of elimination Depurative : promotes the natural channels of elimination Diaphoretic : produces perspiration and increases elimination through the skin Diuretic : increases the secretion and flow of urine Emetic : induces vomiting Emmenagogue : promotes menstruation Emollient : softens, soothes and protects the skin Expectorant : promotes removal of excess mucus from lungs and air passages Febrifuge : reduces fever Galactagogue : increases or promotes flow of milk Haemostatic : reduces or stops bleeding Hepatic : strengthen, tone and stimulate bile secretions, improving liver function Hypolipidaemic : lowers blood lipid levels Hypotensive : lowers blood pressure Hypnotic : induces sleep Nervine : tones and strengthens the nervous system Nutritive : nourishes the body Orexigenic : stimulates the appetite Oxytocic : stimulates uterine contraction Parasiticide : destroys parasites Parturient : used to facilitate childbirth Pectroal : strengthens and improves the function of respiratory tract Refrigerant : lowers body temperature and relieves thirst Rubefacient : stimulates local capillary dilation and causes reddening of the skin..thus relieves congestion and inflammation of deeper tissues Sedative : relaxes and reduces nerve conduction Sialagogue : promotes secretion and flow of saliva Soporific : promotes sleep Spasmolytic : counteracts or relieves convulsions or spasmodic pains Sternutatory : promotes sneezing by irritating the mucous membrane in the nasal passages Stimulant : increases functional activity and energy in the body Stomachic : relieves stomach pain styptic : stops bleeding when applied externally sudorific : induces sweating Thymoleptic : acts as a tonic or restorative to the nervous system and at the same time is stimulating, engendering a feeling of well-being Trophorestorative : nourishes and restroes the function to particular tissues Tonic : improves the function of, energises and tones the body or particular tissues or organs Vasoconstrictor : causes contriction of blood bessels Vasodilator : causes dilation of blood vessels Vermifuge : expels or destroys worms Vulnerary : used to hasten the healing of wounds hope this helps -bumpy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted August 18, 2003 DAMN! Thanks guys, that helped allot. So what do ya think, if I compiled a bioassay writing and terminology FAQ do you think it would be used or do ya think people would still report everything from alfalfa to zinnias as producing 'a mild marijuana like high'? I'm not saying we should use excessively complex language that you need a university library to translate to english- just reports that are more descriptive and less misleading. Like you can still call munchies munchies (or hunger), but if something causes euphoria and mild visual distortions with an anti-anxiety effect it should be stated as such rather than comparing it to the last hour of this or that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darklight Posted August 18, 2003 I'd use it, if it were kept simple enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theobromos Posted August 19, 2003 Algesic Dysphoric Lacrymogenic Toxic Lethal? Oh, and oneirogenic, sensory sensitiser and antidepressant. Perhaps if you provided "cannabinomimetic" people would say they had a mild cannabinomimetic effect. I once smoked something that totally prevented me from feeling the effects of cannabis for three days. What would you call that, antidote? Or annoying? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted August 19, 2003 "I once smoked something that totally prevented me from feeling the effects of cannabis for three days. What would you call that, antidote? Or annoying?" A 'cannabinoid blocker'? Or 'a good prank' What was it? It'd be funny to put some in a dime bag and leave it where the stoners congregate at a local highschool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nabraxas Posted August 19, 2003 yes, it would be very usefull- i hate those non-sense reviews too, but i second that it must be kept simple--- i know i'm dim, but there's already half a dozen undefined words above that i have no idea about, like Anxiolytic or Lacrymogenic. i could hazard a guess- but that would probably only make things more confusing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t st tantra Posted August 19, 2003 yep,i know what you mean,but when you try a totally new plant with a new chemical comparing it to the plant its effects most resembles can seem the best option.for instance my best discription of the effects of alchornea ilicifolia is yohimbie like,though i realise this definition would also include ibogaine as yohimbie like.i would like to have done better but couldn't.i gather your thrust is to a discription of effects rather than a comparison with another plant.the more plants one has experienced the better any comprison would be. what is the scientific term for having your head space fill up with white light? are you asking to have the irrational described in scientific terms? isnt there a concensus that the effects of lsd cannot be properly defined.[it's peyote like!LOL] i will keep your point in mind for my next bioassay. i read a reveiw of sab recently saying we were the most scientifically rigourous ethno forum around! t s t . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted August 19, 2003 "i read a reveiw of sab recently saying we were the most scientifically rigourous ethno forum around!" COOL I love it when our work is appreciated :D Everyone give yourself a big pat on the back. Do you still have the link to that review? "when you try a totally new plant with a new chemical comparing it to the plant its effects most resembles can seem the best option." Correct, its the reflexive nature of the human mind to interpret new experiences by their relation to past experiences. But that doesnt have to be the end point of a persons analysis of the experience, rather it should be the starting point. If you smoke somethin' and say to yourself 'this is kinda like mild weed' the very next thing you should do is go through all the effects and define them one by one. I just did an assay that would commonly be called a 'mild marijuana like high'. When I smoked the stuff my mind first reacted by saying 'kinda like pot' so I went through the effects: Marijuana like symptoms: Sedation- yes Euphoria- yes Reduction of coordination- only mild Munchies- no Reduction of mental faculties- no Symptoms unlike marijuana: Slight visual/auditory distortions Improved perception of sensory detail So instead of saying 'kinda sorta marijuanaesque' I would list the specific effects noted. "what is the scientific term for having your head space fill up with white light?" Iucundus? (Latin for pleasant. When in doubt talk in latin ) "there's already half a dozen undefined words above that i have no idea about, like Anxiolytic or Lacrymogenic" Anxiolytic = anti-anxiety Lacrymogenic = causes crying (from latin: lacrymo- to weep, genic- to cause) "it must be kept simple" I agree, if we want bioassays to be useful we should avoid advanced medical terminology. Some terms are well known enough to use (sedative, stimulant, etc.) others can be translated to plain english (munchies or hunger rather than aperitive, for instance). The main thing I want to promote is accuracy. Like relevant things usually left out- for instance age, weight, gender (yes it makes a difference), race (yes it makes a difference in effects and side effects- its proven beyond any medical doubt so dont y'all get all PC on me), quantity used, relevant preexisting medical conditions, etc. "i read a reveiw of sab recently saying we were the most scientifically rigourous ethno forum around!" I just had to repeat it again Makes me all warm and fuzzy, it probably helps that the stuff I'm assaying causes euphoria Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theobromos Posted August 20, 2003 I am not sure there is any source for the herb which avoids the possibility of overharvesting. It was Lady's Slipper (Cypripedium sp) root extract. Made according to Mrs Grieve's Modern Herbal, which calls the extract cypripedin, then smoked. http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/v/...v/valame02.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darklight Posted August 20, 2003 nabraxas:t there's already half a dozen undefined words above that i have no idea about, like . And when I'm in the middle of a bioassay- esp an intense one- the LAST thing I can pronounce is Anxiolytic or Lacrymogenic. Let alone say it or write it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted August 20, 2003 Well in that case you write down what you can and refine it later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted August 21, 2003 Well, its going out of the hypothetical and into the practical. I started typing up the page yesterday, so it should be up within a few days. Just thought I'd give an update. "sab... the most scientifically rigourous ethno forum around!" I just had to repeat it yet again Maby I should make it into a T-shirt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted August 21, 2003 but,i only come here to look at your ever growing collection of smileys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted August 21, 2003 "but,i only come here to look at your ever growing collection of smileys." What, you mean this collection: http://members.aol.com/polyploid2/icon/smilies.html Dont worry, its gonna keep growing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted August 22, 2003 OK, My http://www.shaman-australis.com/~auxin/bioassay.htmlBioassay FAQ is online. Check it out, see if it provides usefull guidelines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites