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Does anyone know the (aproximate) lifespan of the following plants?

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Catha edulis

Erythroxylum coca

Ephedra sinica

Echinopsis pachanoi

Echinopsis langniformis

Echinopsis peruviana

Lophophora williamsi

Acacia obtusifolia

Psychotria viridis

Banisteriopsis caapi

EDIT: and Tabernanthe iboga

I had a quick look through Google and The Corroboree but couldn't find any answers.

I know this question is very hard to answer.................

so all I'm after is a ballpark figure

Cheers

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Catha edulis 50years and more.

Erythroxylum coca 35 years.

Ephedra sinica don't know, saw some plants die after 8 years.

Echinopsis pachanoi

Echinopsis langniformis

Echinopsis peruviana

Lophophora williamsi

Acacia obtusifolia around 20years, but as well much less.

Psychotria viridis

Banisteriopsis caapi

EDIT: and Tabernanthe iboga

I had a quick look through Google and The Corroboree but couldn't find any answers.

I know this question is very hard to answer.................

so all I'm after is a ballpark figure

Cheers

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Most rainforest trees will outlive you, and probably your kids too.

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Most rainforest trees will outlive you, and probably your kids too.

I have kids?! :o

Knew I should have "pulled out" earlier

Jokes jokes.

What about the Sacred Cacti? I think I heard somewhere that they live for a verry long time.....

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How'd you get your hands on Erythroxylum Resistance?

Cheers.

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How'd you get your hands on Erythroxylum Resistance?

Cheers.

First I'm going to say that I didn't even imply that I'm growing any Erythroxylum spp.

Next I'm going to say that if I would like to grow a legal variety of Erythroxylum, I would look no further than SAB

http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/shop/erythroxylum_spp_cp_75.php

And finally

(because, to me, you kinda implied that I may be growing coca and you would like to know how to obtain coca plants/seeds - which is illegal btw)

I will tell you how I would go about it.

I would;

go to http://www.cocagrowers.org/ and order the book.

If the book arrived, then (in this strictly hypothetical scenario) I would proceed to order the seeds.

But I wouldn't because I'm, of course, a "law abiding citizen"

I hope I've answered your question :)

Now let's try and keep this thread on topic. I would like to know the lifespan of the plants I mention in the original post.

If you have any questions, comments, things to trade, or would even like to join The Resistance feel free to PM me

Peace

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lophs can live for 100+ yrs if i'm not mistaken?

as for trichs not sure i don't think they've been in cultivation that long but if i was forced to guess i'd say the same thing.

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Mmmm

I made this thread because I like plants that live for a long time.

I like to imagine a time, 500 years from now, on The Farm (which will one day be my farm [at the moment it's owned by a family friend]), and there are all these mature plants. A forest.

A forest of mature plants such as Catha edulis and other ethnobotanicals, all fruit trees and mature (what I like to call) grand trees, such as Oak, European Yew (Taxus baccata) and of course Sequoioideae.

And I'd like to think that future generations will know that

the founder of The Resistance grew them. Grew them from seed. Loved them. Cared for them.

And because of him, are free, and are no longer dependent on The System

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edit: viva la resistance!!!

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I had always imagined myself being the leader of the new free world :blush:

I have to challenge you to a dual now, to decide who is alpha dog. Sorry brother, you're probably a nice guy and all but this is how it works. Democracy and capitalism have taught me so.

Please PM your name and details and I'll be over quite shortly to deliver your fatal beating.

edit: your large list of interests doesn't scare me

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I had always imagined myself being the leader of the new free world :blush:

I have to challenge you to a dual now, to decide who is alpha dog. Sorry brother, you're probably a nice guy and all but this is how it works. Democracy and capitalism have taught me so.

Please PM your name and details and I'll be over quite shortly to deliver your fatal beating.

edit: your large list of interests doesn't scare me

Knives or pistols?

Edit: Message for mods and AFP, I'm only joking around.....

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I had always imagined myself being the leader of the new free world :blush:

I have to challenge you to a dual now, to decide who is alpha dog. Sorry brother, you're probably a nice guy and all but this is how it works. Democracy and capitalism have taught me so.

Please PM your name and details and I'll be over quite shortly to deliver your fatal beating.

edit: your large list of interests doesn't scare me

I don't go out of my way to being the leader of anything.

I'm just a friendly fella who likes plants, women, and deep states of relaxation.

Now please stop creating a mess in my thread. Some of us here on The Corroboree are actually here to learn things

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I think gunfighter was joking?? otherwise fuck off jokes

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Only one way to find out, right? :wink:

But seriously, no, if I really were starting a putsch, challenging anonymous people over the internet (especially on a botanical forum) wouldn't be on my list of 'things to do'. And I have no desire to be the leader of anything, I'd rather be at home in the garden.

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otusifolia can get much older than 20 years, but it is a pioneer tree, and they never live for very long.

ginko and adansonia, would be nice trees which can get 1000 years old, in mel only ginko would do it of those two.

the yew, is another incredible tree, which get's very old, as you said. the yew was once, a very important tree, and almost felled to extinction, because it's wood, was the only source for, making an English long bow.

the pope did forbid, the trading of yew wood, to the muslim infidels.

lucky the, Christians did not cut down every single yew tree, because only around 50years ago, the first cancer medications were manufactured out of exactly the same tree.

for hundreds of years the yew wood, killed people, and than suddenly, it prevented death, ethnobotany is an incredible sience!!!

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There is only one way sabers finish there disputes and it is ETHNODOME

"2 sabers enter one man leave" "2 sabers enter one man leave "

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there is a 6000 year old yew in france that is a chapel 

" The chapel lies within the hollow trunk of a yew tree years old) in the cemetery at La Haye-de-Routot village in the Brotonne Regional Park. "

" Door of the Chapel in a Norman yew, poisoned in 2013 by glyphosate "

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in re-searching for this (been a few years since I saw the link to find to add here but found the image above) 

I stumbled over this 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llangernyw_Yew

this one is about 5000 yrs old in Wales

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This yew in Defynnog, could have been a sapling in the Bronze Age 

The yew in Defynnog, which could have been a sapling in the Bronze Age

 

and this one:

oldest tree, scotland, perthshire, fortingall yew,

“It is so old that it has split into two halves, one 40 feet wide and the other 20 feet wide.

“It’s DNA has been tested by the Forestry Institute and its ring count is 120 per inch, which makes it over 5,000 years old.”

This means it outranks its nearest British rival, the Fortingall Yew in Perthshire Scotland, which is said to be up to 5,000 years old.

Church in Wales property services chief Alex Glanville said: “Yew trees have survived in Wales better than anywhere else because of our wet climate and lower light levels.”

The Church has launched a campaign to protect the yew trees in its churchyards.

Mr Glanville added: “It is time we celebrated these amazing trees and the communities that have cared for them down the centuries.”

 

I hope this might be useful or interesting at least

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