Seldom Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) / Edited June 25, 2012 by bulls on parade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete34 Posted June 25, 2012 Immigration is a much broader topic than illegal immigrants. Not much you can do about it now, it's highly political, the MSM will not address it and most people don't even care or understand about the long term implications of preserving or mixing cultures and race. 'We're all one big happy family' 'we're all the same' blah blah blah, politically correct but niave rhetoric. Illegal immigrants are ultimately small fish in relation to the broader trend of whats happening as overindustrialized 1st world countries slowly dillute into overpopulated 3rd world countries, except for places like China or Israel which have a priority towards being racially homogenous. One thing to consider is that no person (like no plant species) should ever be labelled 'illegal'. Good points Botanica and well said, if possible please ad more input especially about long term implications and 1st world countries slowly dillute into overpopulated 3rd world countries, except for places like China or Israel my girlfreind is Spanish/Filipino and she is more adamant than i about immigration and the need to protect our border as she knows what we end up getting more than most and loves Australian way of life and people we are also selling of the land when other countries have strict controls and that needs to stop so what term should be used instead of illegal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shortly Posted June 25, 2012 i think a civilian militia is called for like in the usa/mexican border the civilians have a right to border protection You should talk this up a bit more, I'm sure there are plenty out there that would lurve to hear more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete34 Posted June 25, 2012 I think it fits under ethical living and is a good discussion. It wont stop it but will deter yes and I agree if it continues it may cause problems. What shits me about most of the problems we face its always an A or B option, never a C or D. I wish every one that had a strong view on the topic would spend the time addressing the issue together of WHY are they fleeing first, there mabey a bigger issue. Then look for the C&D options. The media and government always seem to only offer two resolutions. The Hendra Disease! Move? or Cull? Are their really no other options. Bring back critical thinking All good points in this case you only have the A or B option you can send them back or let them over run you, its not a lot of options unless im missing something let me know we are a small country Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhoenixSon Posted June 25, 2012 unless im missing something let me know we are a small country heeehawwww 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete34 Posted June 25, 2012 heeehawwww spacemonk are you trying to say something mate? if so use logic get rid of emotion,take a few deep breaths and thinkk if anyone can think of a solution for the immigrants its an illegal one ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete34 Posted June 25, 2012 if any of you illegals have some good ideas post it but try and keep the non-sense to a minimum please shruman you can use all that wisdom on Australian law but NO sedition mate please ;-) spacemonk you can help shruman no but seriously if you illegals want half a chance you should put your views in a logical manner if thats too much to ask then get back on ya boat and piss off i will even pack ya bags Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whitewind Posted June 25, 2012 Wisdom is only achievable when true knowledge is combined with honesty. I think you're being honest enough, but there's a bit of knowledge you need to catch up on. Such as why refugees want to come to this country, and what they are fleeing from, and how much of this country is made up from immigrants - without the consent of the indigenous population, legal or not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stillman Posted June 25, 2012 I loll'd but my warn bar tells me No. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete34 Posted June 25, 2012 your attempt at saying i know little just shows you probably illegal imigrent like spacemonk too lol, I heard spacemonk´s not even from this planet. funny, shows intelligence but have you got a solution? let the invasion get bad or send em back? or what else is there? there are some big population migrations that will start in the near future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seldom Posted June 25, 2012 bet a silver dollar this clown shoes never posts again after tonight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jox Posted June 25, 2012 "Were do you come from." "does that include captain Cook?" To have a discussion you have to answer questions not just give opinions. All I know we are not going to work it out here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noshiewa Posted June 25, 2012 so if anyone in this forum dose not agree with your uneducated ideas they must be an illeagal imigrant? please try to use a bit of logic mate. also why just insult the person who asked about captain cook i thought you were haveing a proper discusion? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halcyon Daze Posted June 25, 2012 I'm not going to read through all this but in case no-one has mentioned it. The whole asylum seeker issue is just a way for the media to distract us while they rob us and control us. The same thing is happening in the US. Bring down the MEDIA in my opinion. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noshiewa Posted June 25, 2012 my girlfreind is Spanish/Filipino and she is more adamant than i about immigration and the need to protect our border as she knows what we end up getting more than most and loves Australian way of life and people i think your a bit confussed myself, what or who exactly are we protecting australia from? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justin Credible Posted June 25, 2012 All good points in this case you only have the A or B option you can send them back or let them over run you, its not a lot of options unless im missing something let me know we are a small country Doing A or B here wont solve the core of the problem. And if we have to label them something Im going to go with People...they are not boat people, white or black people, fat or thin people. They are just people like all of us. The real question is WHY ARE THEY FLEEING? Not where to put them. I dont believe they are coming here to rob me or blow up buildings, so I cant help but wonder why they risk their lifes to get here. Then the next question is Do they need help? And How can we help? Im not a fan of war or agree how Australia intervenes with other Countries at Americas beck n call, but maybe our troops are in the wrong place. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justin Credible Posted June 25, 2012 Or like HD said we can fall for the distraction and fight over a question that does not solve the real problem 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete34 Posted June 25, 2012 I think you're being honest enough, but there's a bit of knowledge you need to catch up on. Such as why refugees want to come to this country, and what they are fleeing from, and how much of this country is made up from immigrants - without the consent of the indigenous population, legal or not. those points you mention are ok so far in the scheme of things we would like to invite the world here i know its a nice country but do you dont live in reality to look at the bigger picture coming your way soon: 1. overpopulation + 2. global warming = mass migrations so what you are saying is just let them all in? you need a quota re: think why refugees want to come to this country ah yes i know why, for the standard of living, but it wont be for long if you let the 3rd world in will it? eh eh yes its nice even Americans want to move here but room is running out not just here but everywhere, its overpopulation that is the problem now a country can only support so much migration just ask the French and Italians since the EU was formed and then Libya fell Australia is mostly desert most countries populations are a problem and it will be Australia's problem soon, all the good intentions in the world wont mean a thing we would like to invite the world here i know its a nice country. i know the bleeding heart feels good man but is it truth? big business wants continual growth but the problem is its a finite world did you see the doco Dick Smith recently did? i will find the link to it asap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halcyon Daze Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) It's usually the real rednecks that get fired up over immigration issues. Edited June 25, 2012 by Halcyon Daze 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete34 Posted June 25, 2012 <p> / </p><p> </p> <p> </p> <div>bulls on parade are you trying to say something mate?</div> <div>if so use logic get rid of emotion</div> <div>if anyone can think of a solution for the immigrants its an illegal one</div> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete34 Posted June 25, 2012 bet a silver dollar this clown shoes never posts again after tonight i bet ya 10 silver dollars ya wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ethos Posted June 25, 2012 spacemonk are you trying to say something mate? if so use logic get rid of emotion,take a few deep breaths and thinkk if anyone can think of a solution for the immigrants its an illegal one ;-) I believe Australia is the 6th largest country based on land mass err.. continent also we make up 0.33% of the worlds population where as china makes up 19.19% I for one would rather see what nothink is talking about happen and have the problems solved that are causing them to flee, rather then have an australian boarder patrol like an offshore mexican border fence, constantly patrolled and motion sensored I don't know the solution as I don't know enough about the situations that cause these immigrants to flee from their country, but I know then solution is not to send them all back or call them an 'illegal' if they appose the idea of sending them back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete34 Posted June 25, 2012 "Were do you come from." "does that include captain Cook?" To have a discussion you have to answer questions not just give opinions. All I know we are not going to work it out here. eh eh another illegal where is immigrations phone number, let me see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ethos Posted June 25, 2012 unless im missing something let me know we are a small country meant to quote that post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete34 Posted June 25, 2012 It's usually the real rednecks that get fired up over immigration issues. more great logic im a red neck for mentioning immigration Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
