nitrous bulbs and dispensers

[incognito]

just found this site, the 16oz bulbs are the only ones that do it for me.

dunno if its been posted b4, but thought itd be cool for newbs to cake making to see where they can buy em'

apparently they will beat any other nang-specialists here in australia by 10%.

www.finewhip.com.au

16oz are the shiz.

[Hyphal]

I heard someone at EGA call it 'hippy crack'....

[alkatrope]

I had a look at finewhip a while ago, it all seems well and good until you see the shipping price..

[Kenny Blister]

Mmmmmm, MOSA

[Conan Troutman]

Mmmmmm, MOSA

Mosa are dirty sons of bitches...mmmmm greasy lungs

[Kenny Blister]

lol, they're all dirty sons of bitches, but I reckon mosa is better than isi. Each to their own though...

[Torsten]

shipping is high because bulbs are heavy. I thought their shipping costs were fair.

[Bread Filter]

Any other Nang conneisseurs here? We have got to stick together, there aren't enough of us!

I personally believe that MOSA 8gm bulbs taste clean but MOSA 16gm and ISI 8gm taste oily.

[The Dude]

How about a simple cotton ball in between the tank and outlet, it would possibly reduce the pressure of the gas (good thing) filter the oil (bloody good thing) filter some of the nitrous (not a good thing) and need to be replaced regularly (fucking terrible thing).

tis an idea, cuz im sure all types have some amount of oil present.

[Hyphal]

If you have a really well used nang dispenser, that has been used for nothing else but nangs, wipe your finger on the inside of the chamber and have a look.... After being shown this I pretty much quit them on the spot.

[incognito]

cant u bypass all that with a balloon? i mean z oil would stay on z rubber, plus the techniques u can do with a ballon, u can get alot more 'bang for ur buk'

edit-ever wiped ur finger on the inside of a bong thats seldom cleaned?

Edited December 20, 2007 by jono

[Conan Troutman]

If you have a really well used nang dispenser, that has been used for nothing else but nangs, wipe your finger on the inside of the chamber and have a look.... After being shown this I pretty much quit them on the spot.

yeh scary ey, ISI I found very clean in comparatively, ballon and filter is a necessity...

[Hyphal]

cant u bypass all that with a balloon? i mean z oil would stay on z rubber, plus the techniques u can do with a ballon, u can get alot more 'bang for ur buk'

edit-ever wiped ur finger on the inside of a bong thats seldom cleaned?

There is just something a lot more off putting about the petroleum smell to it compared to the black death left in a bong/pipe, though your right - theres probably a lot more damage being done by smoking pot, especially when comparing the frequency of the use of each substance.

[faustus]

this might sound strange, but has anyone ever tried a CO2 bulb?

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/carbogen/c...gen_info1.shtml

 

 

"Interestingly, an overdose of carbon dioxide elicits effects similar to those produced by NDEs and psychedelic drugs. L.J. Meduna summed up the results of the administration of thirty-percent carbon dioxide on a large number of subjects with the statement 'We definitely can see that the form-constants in Mescal [mescaline] vision...are present in the sensory alterations produced by CO2'

 

"Subjects on carbon dioxide report separation of the self from the body. And as with the drugs and NDEs, there were reports of caves, tunnels, intensely bright light, visions of other persons, luminaries, reliving of the past, and 'spiritual' experiences. Following an initial vision of brilliant colors and designs, one subject reported. I felt myself being separated; my soul, drawing apart from the physical being, was drawn...seemingly to leave the earth and to go upward where it reached a greater Spirit with whom there was a communion, producing a remarkable new relaxation and deep security....I seemed to receive assurance that...whatever was bothering...me...would work out all right....I felt the Greater Spirit even smiling indulgently upon me in my vain little efforts to carry on by myself, and I pressed close [to] the warmth and tender strength and felt assurance of enough power to overcome whatever lay ahead for me.

 

"So, altered central-nervous-system chemistry can produce illusions and hallucinations, whether that alteration is induced by extrinsic agents such as psychedelic drugs or by internal, biochemical factors.

 

[Tripitaka]

this might sound strange, but has anyone ever tried a CO2 bulb?

Not at all fun or interesting in my experience!

Mistakingly bought C02 whilst in a hurry once and nearly choked, my saliva carbonated in my mouth and something odd happened in my lungs which I can only assume was a similar.

[The Dude]

this might sound strange, but has anyone ever tried a CO2 bulb?

Not at all fun or interesting in my experience!

Mistakingly bought C02 whilst in a hurry once and nearly choked, my saliva carbonated in my mouth and something odd happened in my lungs which I can only assume was a similar.

I thought c02 and n20 canisters were different sizes and this couldnt be done??

eitherway... that doesn't sound fun. Although carbonated saliva sounds hillarious! I'm weary of anything pumping gas directly in, i like the idea of pressure gauges and slow/constant release nos, with enough oxygen in the mix to not kill ya, send me to the dentist soon please god.

Edited December 20, 2007 by El Duderino

[incognito]

nah nah hyphal u miss my point.

emptying the cannister into a ballon first, then inhaling, u control the intake, heats the nos to room temp, and i believe would elimintae alot of the oily residue u talk about. plus if u clean ur applicator regularly would help eliminate that issue?

[The Dude]

and i believe would elimintae alot of the oily residue

why? cuz oil sticks to the rubber? it sticks to the inside of bulbirators too and it still gets in your lungs. Even if rubber is the best oil-stick-to medium there's a whole baloon full of Nos that has no contact to the inner surface of the balloon, any oil uptake of the baloon would be minimal, that's why I suggest the cotton bud filter in bulbirator.

In general it seems baloons are the way to go, cuz they'd warm up the gas and soften the blow because you inhale, not force nos into your body, at the same time maybe thats whats so special abount bulbirators, they pump it in there faster than you could breath it in. However its not about how fast, its more about how much you inhale over a short period of time.

What's this more bang for buck method. I've heard about breathing back into the baloon and then in again and then into the baloon again like hyperventilating, but i think thats just breathing the exhaled CO2 back in and the added high might be nothing but oxygen depletion???

have you ever tried this trick, get on all fours, breathe as heavily as you can, stand up very quick and have someone push up against your chest to fully push any oxygen out.. Oxygen deprivation, quite the high, did that at primary school, kids passing out everywhere, coming to then vomitting, and many a sympathy vomit to go around - Hillarity! bloody stupid kids!.. seriously nobody try that, it's got to be the dumbest fucking idea.

...Tripitaka, your story sux but I'm still fascinated by Spiritual experience induced by C02, i've heard of nitrogen psychosis but never this.

Somehow the whole thing doesnt gel with me. Isn't breathing in CO2 the same as asphyxiation? When you stop breathing that choking sensation is not the lack of oxygen but rather the buildup of CO2. also im sure N20 does and I believe CO2 would both displace oxygen in your lungs anyway. So adding these gases gets rid of the Oxygen you already have, having an oxygen supply for this experiment is imperative, and most of it would be displaced by the other gas yeah?

too much headfuck, I'll stick to bulbs [where legal], whilst hijacking, has anyone heard of Xenon (the pure element) acting in much the same way as Nitrous.. only I've heard it's better, purer and a fuckload more harder to come by and therefore more expensive.

fuck it, next time I wanna have an NDE I'll just bash my head with a hammer and cause some brain hemoraging (the purported cause of tripping on acid)

Edited December 20, 2007 by El Duderino

[incognito]

the asphyxiation + the nos can haveamazing effects if u are already dosed(on a legal psychadelic). u really can go places in my limited experience.

[Hyphal]

nah nah hyphal u miss my point.

emptying the cannister into a ballon first, then inhaling, u control the intake, heats the nos to room temp, and i believe would elimintae alot of the oily residue u talk about. plus if u clean ur applicator regularly would help eliminate that issue?

I did get your point man, but I was just a referring to the fact that the oily residue just *seems* a lot worse than the tar left in a bong, but I also don't think you will derive much benefit from using a balloon - it might cut down the grease factor a tad, but tis still going to be there.

In small amounts it probably does little harm though, and if saved for combination with any other things on special occasions, probably does no harm. Was just very freaky to see the residue the first time, I thought it was a clean gas! Spun me right out.

There's no doubt that in the right combination, there is just something so incredible about the NOs though - hyperspace....

[flora]

fuck it, next time I wanna have an NDE I'll just bash my head with a hammer and cause some brain hemoraging (the purported cause of tripping on acid)

hey! maybe you could get trepanned!

and what *is* the oily residue? did someone say petroleum?

and ive said this before but i once registered an ABN so i could get these cheap from campbells cash n carry

Edited December 20, 2007 by flora

[AndyAmine.]

AFAIK it is a lubricant from the pipes that are used to transport the gas, what lubricant, who knows...

If your really keen on gettng rid of as much as you can I would suggest you try using some chemsitry type filter papers of the lowsest micron you can get, or if your really anal maybe run it through some kind of a wet/dry filtration system like a liquid bubbler type setup with some drierite or damprid or something on the end, followed by some dry filter paper/wool

Thats what a guy I know used when he made nitrous from scratch.

[Ace]

Any tips or advise for someone who's never experienced N2O before? A friend recently found a source of cream whip canisters (cant remember the brand but I think it was isi - they are everywhere it seems) but knows nothing about how to go from there. I've read that you can buy or make 'crackers' (though making seems to be quite dangerous so buying is preferred) to fill balloons with the n2o. Where can one buy a cracker (or any other similar tool) so one can fill balloons? Ebay seems to have nothing but a few in the US and there doesnt seem to be a whole lot else that I can dig up (however searching has been minimal so far I'll admit). What are the legalities of n2o consumption outside of the medical profession? I've found a few articles about the dangers (mostly asphixiation) but overall there doesnt appear to be anything *overly* dangerous about them, as long as the consumer doesnt black out with something preventing him/her from breathing whilst unconscious. Obviously I'd like to ensure my friend is as safe as possible so I want to get a bit of detail for him to look into before doing anything dangerous (he's too lazy to do the research himself so I thought it better to help minimise risk than stand back and watch).

Any and all info is appreciated. I'm off to trawl through old threads...

[MindExpansion]

Op shops often have old bulbinators.

Also, how bad is the oil problem...hadn't even heard of it before I read here, silly me.

Mistakingly bought C02 whilst in a hurry once and nearly choked, my saliva carbonated in my mouth and something odd happened in my lungs which I can only assume was a similar.

Carbon dioxide and water form carbonic acid, so you may well have acidified the mucous in the lungs beyond its current pH...potentially not a great thing.

Peace

[mark80]

Op shops often have old bulbinators.

Also, how bad is the oil problem...hadn't even heard of it before I read here, silly me.

Carbon dioxide and water form carbonic acid, so you may well have acidified the mucous in the lungs beyond its current pH...potentially not a great thing.

Peace

If that was the case exhaling co2 would cause the smae thing. IIRC this reaction doesn't take place in any apprwecaible amount without the presence of carbonic anyhdrase.