This is intended as a space to discuss the famous Huancabamba, its plants and its people as well as a nice place to post maps, links, photos or discussions of the other places with the same name that were referred to by Michael in another post.
More than one place with the same name should not have to create confusion. For instance if I am in Dublin California I have no trouble telling I am not in Ireland but if just saying I went to Dublin this can at least potentially cause confusion depending on what other information we have available.
Including department names for Peruvian locations is always a very helpful approach for avoiding that sort of confusion.
It would be great to learn those three Huancabamba locations referred to by Michael so that we can find them useful in this regards.
The remote and hard to get to location favored by shamans was claimed by Friedberg to have been chosen to avoid persecution due to its remoteness and difficulty in easily getting to. (One single sketchy mountain road in and out)
This would have been even more of an issue in the days of the Inquisitions when "questioning" by church representatives commonly involved beatings and torture for periods lasting for sometimes several years but the anthropologist Claudine Friedberg reported users hid their best plants out of sight even in the late 1950s to avoid persecution.
The psychiatric researcher Dr. Carlos Guittierez-Noriega made a similar comment around the same time frame and denounced the traditional San Pedro using shamans in the area as a bunch of charlatans and sexual perverts who were continually experimenting with psychoactive plants.
I would also love Michael's and other people's opinion on how "peruvianus Huancabamba" fits into peruvianus or pachanoi or if it does.
I am starting to not know what to think except that the offspring from Mesa Garden seeds do not all resemble each other. Mine from Oasis, grown from MG seed, looks like a rather typical and common Peruvian pachanoi but I have seen others that do not.
Of course even a single seed pod can hold the seeds for offspring from multiple pollen contributors as each grain of pollen makes one seed.
This is intended as a space to discuss the famous Huancabamba, its plants and its people as well as a nice place to post maps, links, photos or discussions of the other places with the same name that were referred to by Michael in another post.
More than one place with the same name should not have to create confusion. For instance if I am in Dublin California I have no trouble telling I am not in Ireland but if just saying I went to Dublin this can at least potentially cause confusion depending on what other information we have available.
Including department names for Peruvian locations is always a very helpful approach for avoiding that sort of confusion.
It would be great to learn those three Huancabamba locations referred to by Michael so that we can find them useful in this regards.
The remote and hard to get to location favored by shamans was claimed by Friedberg to have been chosen to avoid persecution due to its remoteness and difficulty in easily getting to. (One single sketchy mountain road in and out)
This would have been even more of an issue in the days of the Inquisitions when "questioning" by church representatives commonly involved beatings and torture for periods lasting for sometimes several years but the anthropologist Claudine Friedberg reported users hid their best plants out of sight even in the late 1950s to avoid persecution.
The psychiatric researcher Dr. Carlos Guittierez-Noriega made a similar comment around the same time frame and denounced the traditional San Pedro using shamans in the area as a bunch of charlatans and sexual perverts who were continually experimenting with psychoactive plants.
I would also love Michael's and other people's opinion on how "peruvianus Huancabamba" fits into peruvianus or pachanoi or if it does.
I am starting to not know what to think except that the offspring from Mesa Garden seeds do not all resemble each other. Mine from Oasis, grown from MG seed, looks like a rather typical and common Peruvian pachanoi but I have seen others that do not.
Of course even a single seed pod can hold the seeds for offspring from multiple pollen contributors as each grain of pollen makes one seed.
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