Guest Ramon Posted October 9, 2000 Share Posted October 9, 2000 I thought I had recently seen some postings about this plant but can't seem to find them.Anyway I have seen this plant at local nursery. Anybody have anything to say about this plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torsten Posted October 9, 2000 Share Posted October 9, 2000 It's a funny one....there must be a good use for the essential oil or an extract for temp toothache relief. It has a much better numbing effect than clove oil - actually, it's almost like hmmm, you know what ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mulga Posted October 9, 2000 Share Posted October 9, 2000 Spilanthes sp, I've seen both S grandiflora or S. acmella as names for the native species. A widespread genus of herbaceous daisies, apparently with at least one Australian species, also known from SE Asia and Sth America I believe.Contains an alkaloid known as spilanthol which is actually used now by dentists in the form of a spilanthol ointment that is applied to the gums and teeth before injections of more powerful local anasthetics. Perhaps even spilanthol is used in injections, I'm not sure, but it is definetly a powerful anasthetic for the mucous membranes, just like that other one T mentioned, or didn't.Not too sure about the structure or chemistry of spilanthol, alkaloid is a rather old and these days not necesarily accurate description of the substance. A search might turn up something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted October 11, 2000 Share Posted October 11, 2000 A few texts I looked up gave the same formula for spilanthol which looks nothing like any anasthetic I have ever seen.2,6,8-Decatrienoic isobutylamideAlmost all texts mentioned it as a 'powerful insecticide' however it seems it is used commercially to potentiate other chemicals.Spilanthol has been used to to treat malaria as it is also toxic to bacteria.Toxicity in humans is low and it is associated with the antibiotic properties of nasturtiums.Is there another name spilanthol goes by? I couldnt find anything about it as far as pharmaceuticals go.b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theobromus Posted October 11, 2000 Share Posted October 11, 2000 Americans still call it affinin, despite that name coming from a mistaken identification of the source plant and being later than the name spilanthol. But it is the name given it by Americans which is what matters, of course [This message has been edited by theobromus (edited 11 October 2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mulga Posted October 11, 2000 Share Posted October 11, 2000 Not sure about a name for it, but local dentists do use an ointment containing spilanthol.Also it reported as a natural insecticide in a few places I've seen as well. Though the plant itself isn't immune from bugs taking a nip out of the leaves. Still it's a relatively hardy and easy to grow little herb.The more I hear about it, the more interesting it sounds, malaria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted October 11, 2000 Share Posted October 11, 2000 Cant remember where I originally saw the malaria bit but heres a nice story for ya. http://www.b-and-t-world-seeds.com/Horizon.htm Mentions it as a "prophylactic against malaria" which I assume is as a preventative measure. Sounds like its worth using even if it dosent work. heb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ramon Posted October 12, 2000 Share Posted October 12, 2000 This is the information which came on the tag of the plant. Note the spelling mistake in name and SpilantolSplianthes acmelia30 cm bush. Yellow Flowers, natural antibiotic leaves eaten in salads. Many therapeutic uses. Leaves contain Spilantol, rubbed on gums gives relief from toothache, teething and mouth sores, with local anaesthetic activity.From doing a web search this plant seems to be anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-viral as well as helping the immune system.Also known to produce saliva when chewed ( To this I can attest. The taste was similar to sticking tounge on a battery but not unpleasent.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theobromus Posted October 12, 2000 Share Posted October 12, 2000 I usually describe it as ice menthol chili before my victims taste a flower bud. The spilanthol is sort of related to capsaicin the active part of the chili pepper.I find breathing in fast over the numbed tongue is rather pleasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Acmella oleracea/Spilanthes Acmella ~ "Toothache Plant"?Anybody got any info on the "Toothache" plant?Has anybody ever actually used it?Is it hard to grow from seed?Any tips on it's cultivation or usage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teljkon Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) sdfs Edited December 19, 2021 by Teljkon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teotzlcoatl Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 This is really cool! Toothache plant article! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reshroomED Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 It's a funny one....there must be a good use for the essential oil or an extract for temp toothache relief. It has a much better numbing effect than clove oil)Is this readily available Torsten?I've been having recurring abscesses every four months or so and last time I hit it repeatedly with clove-oil (providing temporary relief over a weekend) and the gum around the tooth all sloughed away when the dentist started cleaning it (much to her dismay - and mine when she described it).I'd be very keen on a better alternative as I won't be having the tooth removed for twelve months odd.ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teljkon Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) sdfs Edited December 19, 2021 by Teljkon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teljkon Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) asdad Edited December 19, 2021 by Teljkon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyAmine. Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 If SAB doesnt have them then try asking Gomaos, IIRC he had some available in his shop last time I checked (years ago) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbologist Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Bunnings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Very easy to grow, from seed or cuttings. Have seen it in bunnings also, in punnets, labelled as "peek-a-boo eyes" or something (due to the flowers). Appears to self seed to some degree.Maybe its just me but I wouldn't call the effects numbing as such .... more wickedly tingly I'm quite fond of chewing/sucking on a stem as I wander the garden. Flowers seem to give the strongest sensation for me. I find if i had too big a mouthful it really messes with swallowing. But only for a minute or too then it wears off. Drinking carbonated beverages straight after while still tingly is delightful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotato Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I stumbled across this yesterday at http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/black.html when looking up Echinacea. Not sure if it is all hype or what though."Non-Psychoactive Cannabinomimetic Alkylamides Complex: Everyone knows that marijuana makes you hungry. So how does an athlete or bodybuilder increase their appetite naturally without having to deal with an illegal drug? Well, if there were a chemical that was physically similar to the active ingredient in marijuana, THC, then it could potentially activate the same receptors and elicit the increased hunger response. There just so happens to be a group of alkylamides that act as cannabinomimetics and mimic cannabinoids in structure and bind to their receptors, the CB1 and CB2, which are part of the G-protein-coupled-receptor group. These receptors are located in the brain and around the body. They are in charge of many different functions. The next step was to look for herbs that contained these alkylamides that mimic the structure of cannabinoids. The two herbs that showed the greatest promise were Echinacea Purpurea and Spilanthes Acmella. Both of these herbs contain many different alkylamides, but recent clinical information has shown that there are 3 in particular that have a high affinity for binding to both the CB1 and CB2 receptors. Dodeca-2E,4E,8Z,10Z/E-tetraenoic acid isobutylamide and dodeca-2E,4E-dienoic acid isobutylamide from the Echinacea herb and undeca-2E,7Z,9E-trienoic acid isobutylamide from the Spilanthes herb, found in a precise blend in Black Hole, could be used to mimic the herbal cannabinoids found in marijuana, and more importantly, the endogenous cannabinoids found in the human body, including anandamide. Not only does the clinical information show that they can mimic them, but they can even bind to the receptors for a longer period of time than can the other two types. This means that Black Hole will help produce hunger stimulating effects potentially greater than anything you have experienced before. The oral bioavailability of these alkylamides has also been shown to be extremely high in human studies, so they will make it to the receptors without getting degraded by the gastric juices and/or the liver. Now that you are hungry and have begun stuffing your mouth with tons of protein and good carbohydrates, what is your body going to do with all of those calories…." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle. S Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 has anybody tried the toothache plant and noticed increased appetite? id like that. herbalistics has spilanthes seeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggor Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 could it be used in a topical cream for cuts stings or bruises? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawning Man Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I'm about to put some seed in now. Happy to send some seedlings when they germ to anyone who wants one.cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teotzlcoatl Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 (edited) LoveLeafGarden.com has some seeds and so do I. Edited February 3, 2009 by Teotz' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehenge Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I use to grow it but they died out on me. Don't forget it's other name "eyeball plant" which the flowers do look like. Never tried eating it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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