☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) This cactus of the four winds seems rather interesting from a spiritual perspective After having just heard of it and seeing what info was out there ... I found this http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/cracking-cryptocacti-0000202-v19n5 so I thought I'd share ...maybe a lot have already seen it but it's new to me... and maybe a few more but anyway .... is there a thread already dedicated to the Four winds cactus ? where is it please? If not.... Any information about its history/botany would be very much welcomed and appreciated and in the mean time , I'll try and hunt some more info to add ;) lol http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37282 ok http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=32148 http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=31292 Edited December 27, 2014 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiscoStu Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) i have a bridgesii with all but one branch 4 ribbed*, also have a mystery trich with 4 ribs (i think it's a hbx?) but it's too slow growing, *edit: i think it has something to do with being root constricted in a pot, it should be repotted but i like the four ribs and i don't want it to get more Edited December 27, 2014 by DiscoStu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zelly Posted December 27, 2014 This cactus of the four winds seems rather interesting from a spiritual perspectiveAfter having just heard of it and seeing what info was out there ... I found this I reckon if you had a garden with at least a half dozen trich plants exhibiting 4 rib growth you'd be less impressed..... in fact, you'd probably conclude it was all a buncha marketing bs.... 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) thanks for the heads up buddy I'll look forward to watching out for it happening , if it does .. on any of my plants .... and keep on hunting for "the least grown" trichos up a different path Edited December 29, 2014 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowfella Posted December 27, 2014 Don't think it's got anything to do with constricted roots. I've got a near 5 foot Pilosocereus in the ground that's stayed 4 rib from day 1, threw a new stem last summer that started out with 5 ribs but just an inch later reverted back to 4 ribs. Kinda skinny but plump and nearly square in shape. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted December 27, 2014 I had one etiolated bridgesii go 4 ribbed. I grafted it and then it kept on with 4 ribs. I cut it and it pupped 5 ribbed pups. I think sometimes it does have to do with the plant not being stressed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunter Posted December 28, 2014 Aren't they all of the four winds in terms of cosmology? Four ribs seems only related symbolically but if you study the use of the Mesa then they all fit four winds/crossroads symbolism. Saint Peter in symbol represents the crossroads and lord of wind. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J Smith Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) Scopish of the four winds Edited December 29, 2014 by J Smith 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M S Smith Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) The Cactus of the Four Winds is clearly only symbolism and, well, superstition. But whatever. I'm pretty sure it comes out of Peru, and wonder if Bolivian T. bridgesii and T. scopulicola with four ribs, which is much more common, ever got the same sort of historical reverence. Anyhow, I've only seen one proper T. pachanoi that even gave any indication of having four ribs. And here it is, hanging alongside some B. caapi in a Chiclayo witches market. Here are some more plants in Chiclayo... ~Michael~ Edited December 29, 2014 by M S Smith 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted May 19, 2015 yayyy I decided to get a four winds bridge anyway in the end and it is a really sexy plant i just love the tip of it already *excited* i should've known better to say no to an extra cactus the first time round regardless of its quadruple flatulence its not as if there's any going back once pricked 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paradox Posted May 19, 2015 Want some more? I've got lots, they're so sacred they're only $12 per cm! Sacred as! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philocacti Posted May 19, 2015 I have 2 stable 4-ribbed Trichocereus, 1 a SS02Xbridgesii and the other is SSS02Xpachanoi. I have 3 other but they're unstable shifting from 4-5 ribs. I'm thinking out loud, but isn't the 4 wind thing = 4 corners of the world = north, South, East & west. I think it's a biblical thing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paradox Posted May 19, 2015 4 ribs do look pretty cool & the history & mythology of ancient Peru is extremely interesting. certainly can't deny it's an interesting topic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Want some more? I've got lots, they're so sacred they're only $12 per cm! Sacred as! no thanks thats charging way too much and is kinda insulting tbh Edited May 19, 2015 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted May 19, 2015 I have 2 stable 4-ribbed Trichocereus, 1 a SS02Xbridgesii and the other is SSS02Xpachanoi. I have 3 other but they're unstable shifting from 4-5 ribs. I'm thinking out loud, but isn't the 4 wind thing = 4 corners of the world = north, South, East & west. I think it's a biblical thing. cool I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun observing their nature over the years i think its more ancient than biblical but nice one and thanks for a cool reply , like the 4 guardians type thing in witchery i was more inclined toward. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) and i bought it because its different and cost no more than a reg one so before anyone starts foaming at the mouth lol x] or pulls a weave in their nutt hair and a big hug to all the others who grow it Edited May 19, 2015 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hukstable Posted May 19, 2015 Received my 4 ribbed square cacti from prier yesterday, very cool. Maybe a pach cross scop? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hukstable Posted May 19, 2015 I have just been told by the seller it is a pach! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted May 19, 2015 hopes its a super pedro for ya , what a beautiful plant mate! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M S Smith Posted May 19, 2015 Hey Hukstable, your plant looks like it's the longer spined T. scopulicola form. Four ribs isn't unusual for the plant. My own had four ribs, but sadly switched to five last season. ~Michael~ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2XB Posted May 19, 2015 Received my 4 ribbed square cacti from prier yesterday, very cool. Maybe a pach cross scop?image.jpgimage.jpg is this the 'woolunda monster pedro'??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zed240 Posted May 20, 2015 I seem to have a number of plants that are 4 ribbed. A few bridgesii and a few scops that have stayed that way. They look pretty cool but I don't particularly like them any more than my other plants. is this the 'woolunda monster pedro'??? That was my first thought when I saw it too. Here's my Woolunda MP from a couple of months ago. Has grown very well since then, has a couple of pups and it taller and fatter now. Looking forward to it growing weird for me at some stage. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paradox Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) sorry for insulting you man, just mucking around being a dick wad. but perhaps this jebus toast is more to your liking? just $3000. totally legit sacred Edited January 18, 2016 by paradox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites