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Hhhmm, no, I can't really agree with that statement - that blonde SS02 x SS01 is more peruvianoid looking overall, and is much more thickly spined - like you can't really pick up a cutting of it without gloves on - and it's more of a lighter green with blueing whereas the psycho0 is a darker green with blueing.

Nice! Yea your SS02 x SS01 is no ugly duckling either! Do you have any pics of your SS02? That is a badass stand of that one you have going there..

Yea I love the spiny ones in general!

Who said they wanted more porn? Maybe it was just me.. Anyhow, here's a closer up pic of the new growth on these two SS02 x SS01 youths:

Thanks! I'm a proud daddy what can I say.. Yes, the last two pics are both SS02 x SS01 (SS02 is the mother). It's the same two seedlings in the same pot - one I call "blonde" and one I call "brunette" (I'll give them each a better name if I propagate and distribute them) - The last pic is the same two seedlings, but 2-3 years later than the pic above it, the first SS02 x SS01 pic is the original two columns/seedlings - I cut both those columns back to make an enchanting incense, and so they then put out all the new columns you see in the last pic.

Yea both are really attractive cacti.. As a peruvianus, SS01 isn't super distinct, but it is a looker - gets very blue with nice long spines. SS02 is very distinct in appearance for a bridgesii - Zelly has some awesome SS02 specimens he should post pics of - I was able to ID them right away when I saw them in person. I used to have an SS02 - here's a couple pics of it - I used "white oil" on it to kill some mealy bugs and this resulted in the thing breaking out all over in weeping black rot like I had never seen - so I reassigned it to another duty. SS02 x SS01 is a great cross - here's a couple pics of the two seedlings I have from the lot I sowed - they are growing together in the same pot - I whore pictures of this cross out at every opportunity because I'm so proud of/smitten with them:

Nice "var. WTF" you have up there hookahead! That thing is gonna be a disaster in a few years ;) Some speculation here - I think the TPC hybrid with the 3 fathers is mostly or totally TPC x Juules - I say this because the Juules was the first pollen I hit it with - I spaced pollinations between several hours with the 3 fathers - so the Juules pollen would have had plenty of time to gain traction. Also, the (SS02 x pachanoi) x TPC cross is showing mostly longer spined progeny than is the TPC x (Juules, SS02, and SS02 x pachanoi) progeny - I figure if either of the SS02 plants had been fathers to the TPC then I'd be seeing more of the longer spination on the TPC x (Juules, SS02, and SS02 x pachanoi) also. If this pattern holds true than we may can feel safe to label the TPC seedlings as simply TPC x Juules, unless they have a more SS02 spination going. Thing that complicates it a bit is the TPC puts out an occasional long spine (4cm) near the base. It's still uncertain to me how it works with multiple ftahers pollinating one flower - I've read on here or the nook that such can happen, and how it works - but I really don't know if that's true. Sorry to those who didn't get the (SS02 x pachanoi) x TPC hybrid seed - most people on here and the nook did not - the pollination and fruit from cross that came so much later than the rest of them - that only the small number of second-wave mailings contained those seed (and the fruit was very small/few seeds) - I'm sure folks can trade the (SS02 x pachanoi) x TPC cross into better circulation though over time.

Wow, that TBMC is awesome! When degrafting trichos, is it necessary to core out the pereskiopsis from the graft union? If you just cut it straight across then some of the pereski is left in the center where the tricho has grown around it.

Thx! Yea it seems like the tricho grafts are the next level from pereskiopsis - I don't get anything like the growth I get on pachanoi from pereskiopsis - but then I don't have a bunch of pachanoi or other tricho stock to graft too - so I'll probably degraft my pereskiopsis and just get them going on their own roots.. I've got my pereskiopsis grafts all groing tight together too which leads to scarring/spine damage - don't have the space to do it another way though.. Mutant - nice work! Love that Sulco rauschii!

Yes indeed these are turning out super I am very glad to see - the state of affairs regarding mutant trichos will I imagine be quite bizarre by 2015 or so ;) Here's a few more - went over to a dear brother's house today and checked on the babies I left there awhile back - they're growing better than the one's where I live since they get lots of sun: TPM x (SS02 x pachanoi) TPC x (Juul's, SS02, & SS02 x pachanoi) TPM x SS02 v. "Aldous" - this one has really taken off since being grafted to the pachanoi - the motherplant shifts between normal growth, monstrose, large crests, and tight crests - this one here is all large crest..

End of summer cactus porn from the northern hemisphere (SS02 x pachanoi) x TPC TPM x N1 Psycho0 x N1 TPM x (SS02 x pachanoi) TPM x N1 TPM x N1 SS02 x Lumberjackus - Melvin's cross - looks like one of them is going monstrose TPM x (SS02 x pachanoi) (SS02 x pachanoi) x TPM Left is (SS02 x pachanoi) x TPC, right is TPM x (SS02 x pachanoi) TPQC x TPM Psycho-naught x TPM (SS02 x pachanoi) x TPC

Lol, I just contacted that guy above selling the bedraggled Juul's giant plant for $1776.00 on ebay and offered him $1750.00 "but not a penny more" for it.. Let's see if he bites..

Wow, that is spectacular! Never seen anything like that..

Yup, def time for some updates

Just casually observing I've seen a bunch of plants that look like pachanoi from Oz no? I mean, in South America there is no one "E. pachanoi" - there's a whole variety..

Be the shaman - broken cacti pieces are gifts from the cosmos ;)

I don't store it that cold, just in the fridge - but I second dessicating the pollen - the "Damp Rid" product is great for this - if the pollen isn't dessicated the moisture in it leads to spoiling much more quickly..

That is awesome - love the first one!

At this point we're still in the infancy of selective breeding - most all named clones are first generation, wild, or presumably older-world plants that have been growing for quite sometime... We're getting some breeding going with the progeny of previous crosses though, now that those crosses are getting to maturity - takes several years with trichos before they will flower. But, we're now seeing some now - like naja naja said we really ought to name them for sake of keeping track too - I crossed some seedlings at this point - two types of cuzcoensis, an SS02 x pachanoi, and an ecuadorian pachanoi - really ought to name them but it hasn't been an issue because those same hybrids haven't to my knowledge been crossed by others yet. I have named the cuzcoensis' (one is "blonde" and one is "brunette") but I can't recal which was in which cross lol. And others who have crossed seedlings have not been naming the seedling either (Zelly's and Mitosis's SS02 x SS01, Melvin's T. Macrogonus "Icaros", and some SS offerings). Yea though - in general named clones will all be similar in a general sense to unnamed clones - usually though the named clone has qualities which make it more desirable. I've made an effort to cull out the strains in my own garden which do not possess strength of character and/or great beauty..

Nice! I think the T. spachianus is responsible for the variegation and albino traits - I got some open pollinated Roseii #1 seed and some look like spachainus, and most of the lot were variegated or albino - the Roseii was nearby a large spachainus stand..

Yea that looks just like my TPM - which goes in and out of monstrose growth.. What country do you live in tozoc4u? I got my TPM at a small cactus shop in California USA - maybe 10 years ago.. Same place I got my TPC..

Naja Naja man those are badass! Hookahead - It may go back to monstrose growth after a bit - the mother plant, this TPM, goes in and out of mutant growth - check a recent pic - it's put out 4 base columns that are/were growing normally, though one is now starting to go weird again (which you can't see because it started doing so after this pic was taken).. So, these seedlings that start out normal or revert to normal can easily get weird again if they take after momma.. Hookahead yours actually looks like what the motherplant TPM did - look at the base of the TPM and you can see it was just a ball that terminated, and from that came a column that grew normally for a few inches before getting wierd - and check below that my TPM x SS02 v "Aldous" which is a crested freak - this seedling put out a beautiful normal column which is now going quite monstrose.

Yea I'd be more into variegation if the color wasn't yellow. Blue or red variegation - now we're talking!

Yea I always assumed that was sunburn - I get it sometimes on mine - maybe fertilzer burn though? I'm not sure what fertilzer burn looks like..