naja naja Posted May 11, 2005 For active members of the psilocybe family(ie subs)how long does it take to see a blueing reaction after damage/bruising has been done(ie, how long till blue after you accidently kick one when out collecting field/forest mushrooms?)5seconds?, 5 minutes?, 5 hours? I wouldn't want to accidently pick one and be caught with a controlled substance...Do some subs take longer to paint blue than others? Thanks for any help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nabraxas Posted May 12, 2005 mate--instantly. as soon as you crush the stem you should see a blueish "bruise" appearing--AFAIK the bluing is caused by the oxidization ov psilocybin. so as soon as you rupture cell walls (crushing) allowing in oxygen, the oxidisation will occur (bluing) almost instantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted May 12, 2005 Thanks. I figured it was straight away. And yeah I know the rest. just wanted to get some first hand feedback. thanks heaps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smogs Posted May 13, 2005 full colour reached a few mins after tho... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted May 13, 2005 depends on ratio of psilocybin to psilocin Psilocin rich species blue faster than Psilocybin ones There is a latent bluing reaction in species rich in psilocybin with little or no psilocin I think treating with an alkali speed up dephosphorylation and oxidation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunChaser Posted May 14, 2005 Some of the good ones, blue just from thouching them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerbil Posted May 15, 2005 jabez: Some of the good ones, blue just from thouching them Some of the good ones, blue just from looking at them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strangebrew Posted May 15, 2005 SA subs are similar to WA subs aren't they? In that case I wouldn't expect them to show a lot of bluing generally and it can take awhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted May 15, 2005 the slower they blue the better they keep [ 15. May 2005, 11:17: Message edited by: Rev ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiders Posted May 16, 2005 melbourne subs blue inky dark blue/black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anodyne Posted May 31, 2005 old mushrooms that have partially dried may take much longer to stain. some Panaeolus may take much longer to stain (i.e. an hour rather than 2 seconds), and the colour may be paler than some Psilocybe species. of course, some will already be blue when you find them, having been bruised by heavy rain... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiders Posted May 31, 2005 the difference in colour of the bluing between cubensis, pans and subs is quite weird. American hardwood species tend to also have a different colour than the very dark blue of the subs. Quite odd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted May 31, 2005 It's cool dudes, I know how long they take too turn blue.I've seen the light ;)Their are no look alikes down here.(that I know of) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites