Auxin Posted February 14, 2003 I was researching entheogens in buddhism and I found this: "In Nepalese shamanism.... Moreover, what is most spectacular and hitherto little known is the evidence that shamans use mushrooms, such as Amanita muscaria and different kinds of psilocybes (the latter as inhaled powders)." Buddhism, Shamanism, and Thangka Paintings- Claudia Mueller-Ebeling and Christian Raetsch I know there was a conversation here about the possibility of Zulu Amanita snuff, but I've never heard of Psilocybe snuff. Has anyone heard of this practice before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian Posted February 15, 2003 Why you've never done the mushi-rush? (in a dream of course) A friend and I both tried this. We were both mildly intoxicated (alc) prior to the experiment. We each lined up a generous serving (1g+) of finely powdered Psilocybe subaeruginosa. In a rather crude manner we both vacuumed our lines from the bench as we ran our open nostril along them. It would have been quite amusing to watch, we still laugh about it now. Within two minutes the effects came on with slightly more intensity than normal. The duration was about the same however the quality of the experience was somewhat tainted by the remnant fungal odor and slight burning sensation. I am not a fan of insufflation and will often discourage people from doing it. Though it is interesting to note that this method works (for us at least). I have also submitted a report to Erowid.org (long ago on smoking these mushrooms with success; however the effect were extremely intense and rather unpleasant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noveltea Posted February 15, 2003 in the book True Hallucinations by Terence Mckenna, he mentions how they ground up some cubies into a snuff. The description sounded quite nice, but damned if i'll try it! i have trouble eating'em, let alone cake my sinuses with it:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted February 15, 2003 Ill have to report a negative on cube snuff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiders Posted February 15, 2003 Most amusing! I couldnt imagine snorting that. It would be profoundly unpleasant on the nose. Interesting report on the smoking of psilocybe sub. I have a group of friends that swear upon the activity of smoked subaeruginosa. On the shroomery most experienced users are adament that smoking mushrooms would destroy the psilocybin/psilocin/trypophans etc and thus doesnt work. However I posted a link a while ago that reports a number of other active chemicals in psilocybes that vary considerably between species - one being low levels of DMT. Considering that there is little analysis of Australian native psilocybes (Subaeruginosa/Eucalypta/Tasmaniana) for all we know they could contain larger quantities of any of these alkaloids. I couldnt imagine the smoke being particularly pleasant either though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted February 15, 2003 Hmmm, interesting. So it is done in western entheo-culture. Yeah, I can imagine it wouldnt be too good on the nasal passages. I never did understand why some people dont like the taste though, I guess its a personal preferance thing- I havent had the psychoactive type in years but I did love the taste, personally I'd like to find non-psychoactive mushrooms with the same taste so I could make sauces and icecream with it, assuming I could resist the temptation to just eat 'em all straight as portable snacks. People often call me nuts for enjoying that flavor but taste perception is primarially psychological so people who dont allow themselves to like the taste dont know what they are missing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SicKo Posted February 26, 2003 Subs. smoked with M.J. is a very mellow trip, with nice colors, not the nices of smoke but not unbearable, they must be very dry, its best if they r mullied up or broken into small peices as a whole cap is abit hard 2 burn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crix Posted December 9, 2005 Subs. smoked with M.J. is a very mellow trip, with nice colors, not the nices of smoke but not unbearable, they must be very dry, its best if they r mullied up or broken into small peices as a whole cap is abit hard 2 burn. Im really digging back here in the old posts, just reading through, but thought it would be interesting to note that by far my most intense experience has been a combination of smoking and tea. I had about 4g dried, and a j' worth as well. Strangely the trip lasted for around 2hrs, after which time i felt completely normal again (bizzare i know, but cant explain!) I made the 4g into a tea and drank that. About 30 mins later i felt the inital onset which lead to some interesting visuals, after which time i then smoked the mushroom joint as a little experiment. Another 10 mins and very very strong visuals were setting in. For example, complete visual echoes. Walls were triple their real depth, with transparent copies overlaying one another. I told a sitter and he leant back against the wall, completely merging with the damn thing Quite bizzare. I progressed to my bedroom and placed on some mild lighting with jungle music and sat to meditate. Within 10 mins by body virtually gave way as i collapsed on the bed. At this point i find it very hard to explain, with 'existence as a particle of light' being the only potential match Eventually i returned from this state, and went back out into the living room. (100 mins in) The visual echoes were still ocurring. Within the next 20-30 minutes the experience vitually faded to nothing, after which point i ended up going to the casino for two hours with housemates. I wish i knew why the experience was so incredibly intense, and why it lasted only 2 and a bit hours. I can only equate to the smoking and relatively large dose combination. BTW, i have had many experiences with P.australiana and P.eucalypta. Any suggestions would be great Crix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benzito Posted December 12, 2005 On the shroomery most experienced users are adament that smoking mushrooms would destroy the psilocybin/psilocin/trypophans etc and thus doesnt work. Yes, but technically, if you smoked through a bong filled with alcohol, you wouldn't get stoned. The THC, which is alcohol soluble, would all be absorbed. But I know a few people who have done just that, and gotten stoned! I think when chemicals are contained within plant matter, they don't exactly break down the same as when you're dealing with a pure substance. Less surface area, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted December 12, 2005 Yes, but technically, if you smoked through a bong filled with alcohol, you wouldn't get stoned. The THC, which is alcohol soluble, would all be absorbed. But I know a few people who have done just that, and gotten stoned! THC is alcohol soluble, but severely water insoluble, which means you would need something like 70 or 80% alcohol to dissolve any appreciable amount of THC. At that percentage you are almost guaranteed to start a fire and burn your lungs out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
