Beaker Posted November 24, 2003 Does anyone know anything about the above ?? I am wondering if they have similar properties to Sceletium and/or D.Bosseranum. (Orig. posted at EBA) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shroom-Aura Posted December 10, 2003 Does any1 know anything about delosperma 'Grey Pebble' variety? I think it may be d. minimum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
friendly Posted December 19, 2003 According to Trout's notes on Some Other Succulents, several Delosperma species were assayed by TLC and showed tryptamine bands. He suspected tryptamine alkaloids might be present in Sceletium species although no species were tested. As of yet, no one seems to have followed through on this line of research. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shroom-Aura Posted January 16, 2004 any mesembrine (however u spell it) or only tryptamines? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M S Smith Posted January 17, 2004 Trout's Sacred Succulents (Second Edition, Revised) doesn't list Delosperma algoense or D. minimum at all in the index, but in the text it does mention D. minimum as having 4'-O-demethylmesembrenol, mesembrenone and two unidentified alkaloids (p.234). Trout states that these alkaloids were found at "trace levels." Trout cites 8 Delosperma as containing 5-MeO-DMT, and 9 as containing DMT (p.227). I have Shaman Australis to thank for this wonderful Revised edition as I had only the original second edition prior to my visit. ~Michael~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t st tantra Posted January 17, 2004 since mesembrine etc are tryptamines could the reports of dmt and 5meo relate to breakdown products or stages in a proccess which results in mesembrine etc ? so will anyone spill the beans and list these delosperma species or are we all expected to buy the book? t s t . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalahBougrine Posted February 10, 2004 quote: so will anyone spill the beans and list these delosperma species or are we all expected to buy the book? Oh yes please, I have the possibility of find these Delosperma species: -delosperma aberdeenense -delosperma abyssinicum -D. annulare -D. ashtonii -D. bosseranum -D. caespitosum -D. crassum -D. echinatum -D. ecklonis -D. esterhuyseniae -D. floribundum -D. harazianum -D. herbeum -D. hirtum -D. klinghardtianum -D. longipes -delosperma lydenburgense -D. macellum -D. nakurense -D. obtusum -D. rogersii var.glabrescens -D. rogersii -D. steytlerae Any goodies in the above list? Thank you everyone for your help, Bye, Salah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theobromos Posted February 11, 2004 And please remember that these species will contain oxalic acid like Sceletium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalahBougrine Posted February 11, 2004 true....and I guess the recipe for prepare Sceletium powder will not work with these Delosperma....really, I recently discover the pleasure of simply grow these sacred plants...even if I am not going to use them Bye, Salah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theobromos Posted February 11, 2004 My method would work, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalahBougrine Posted February 13, 2004 Even if the delosperma specie contains DMT and 5-meo-DMT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted February 14, 2004 I have cooperi which interetingly is not much of a succulent looks like one but isnt very drought resistant as its actually a straight c3 metaboliser and lacks the water efficient additional CAM cycle that most of these other succulents have No flowers yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted May 4, 2008 Rev you say you have D.copperii Care to help with some IDs? http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/inde...showtopic=17772 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DayLight Posted May 5, 2008 i have aptenia cordifola(reported mesembrine alks) and delosperma cooperi(trout says DMT and 5-MeO-DMT, seems to depend on season) available for free to anyone who will prepare it and preform analysis. i am not from aus, i realize the majority of you are, i can try to send some out if ya want but if there are others from somewhere else that it is more likely to get through customs it will go to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeti101 Posted May 6, 2008 Aptenia cordifolia shouldn't be too hard to get hold of in Aus. I have a decent sized plant and can break a bit off if anyone is desperate for a small amount. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites