Re-locating maybe??

[mescalito]

I've pretty well got the shits with helping everybody but myself and I'm starting to get itchy feet so I was thinking about moving sometime soon in a northerly direction-either northern NSW or south QLD.I'm a pensioner and looking for a place for myself,my staffy and my cat.Preferably quiet,cheap and conducive to growth .

Any suggestions?

[-YT-]

Hi Maca, How about South east QLD Toowoomba, Warwick - or stanthrope way, Gold Coast hinterland are all nice places I lived in Warwick its small quiet and fairly good growing conditions (does get frosty in winter)

Anyway hope this could be of some help

[mescalito]

Thanks YT,I haven't been north for years but I'm feeling a pull in that direction lately so I thought I'd ask for peeps opinions on a nice place to settle.

[teonanacatl]

y not come all the way north to cairns or the tablelands????

[mescalito]

All sounds good,I'll check the touristy websites for these areas thanks guys.

What's it like up your way for rent/weather Rev,Planthelper?

[planthelper]

at the byron shire rent can get exxie,

but it's cheaper hinterland as allways.

rent is around 100aud a week per person, more at the coast.2-3 bedroom rentals average around 350 in byron or more.

coraki where, thats where i am at the moment, has cheap rentals/houses and is frost free.

i'll be moving soon to mt. morgan qld.

[ 27. January 2005, 12:48: Message edited by: planthelper ]

[Owtovit]

Hi planthelper

When will you be moving to Mt Morgan?

I am in Blackwater at the moment, not to far away. Would be nice to be able to source some plants from close by once you get there and get some established.

[Rev]

Well i can only say what ive seen

and ill take t from the perspective your after a life thats pretty laid back with minimal stress so u can do your thing unhassled

Rents are bullshit on the North coast anywhere near the coast.

Once you get onto and between the ranges its gets much cheaper

but youd want a car/bike you can rely on to do your shopping with

decent facilities can be found in Ballina, Casino, Lismore or for example theres Bonalbo , small town with sfa shops but theres a hospital and a doc who bulk bills which is pretty sweet if thats what u need

much further west is tenterfield and north to warwick which seems ok but its definitely drier and colder and therefore for the kind of lifetyle i think youre projecting your looking no further west than casino if frost is an issue or if its not then no further west than well youll see it - the vegetation changes dramatically around tabulam

As P/helper says Coraki is a fine place in terms of climate and a couple could get a nice place there under $200 a week. and really quite nice

Further north Murwillumbah has the required facilities to conduct your affairs and then tweed heads. I have no idea what it costs up there but i doubt its cheap. Forget Nimbin. Its only fun once a year at mardi gras the rest of the time its the place that im glad it exists cos it keeps the junkies in one spot

In between are smaller places like Kyogle which have most things you might need including a sense of community

(Byron is crap for living in. I wont expand on that cos itll just become a rant for so many reasons.)

Things to consider when looking is your transport - you will need it. whether th place is on town water or not - it make ALL the difference, whether you have all weather access or whether when it flood your going to get stuck in or stuck out for days

If you get a place out on a farm then check on things like water again, having access to creek or dam water is a real bonus. Youl prob alos ned a trailer to take your rubbish to the dump weekly. It can also get lonely on your own.

we grabbed an on farm spot and the rent is really but if it was me alone id go nuts or id just never be at home

A place on the edge of town with town water in any of the above and i reckon you could make a go of it

still if u have the choice id go with Teos' suggestion

Lets all move to FNQ, take over a town, elect our own mayor, start our own political party and get them elected. take over the joint :D

[ 28. January 2005, 00:06: Message edited by: reville ]

[gomaos]

Lets all move to FNQ, take over a town, elect our own mayor, start our own political party and get them elected. take over the joint

cool.

in that case I'll come too.

Rev can be president.

[Rev]

Well thats 2 of us Gom

how many people you reckon you need for a secret society to gain critical mass in an area? 100? 1000? 10000? what positions need to be filled to consolidate power most thoroughly.

maybe by targeted replacement filled by skilled immigration alongside swelling the voters ranks. After all there are many of us with many skills and significant collective intellectual and financial capital

mayor, councillors, shop owners and chamber of commerce, fire and ambulance services, teachers, Doctors and nurses, post master,and finally police - until all the cornerstones of the community are sympathetic to the new consensus. Maybe its the only way to destroy the conservatives. one town at a time

The JW's, the masons, the WASPS, Mormons, evangelicals, the Jews, they all do it to communities using these internal politics.

there must be a well defined method and strategy to it

[teonanacatl]

quote:

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Lets all move to FNQ, take over a town, elect our own mayor, start our own political party and get them elected. take over the joint

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:D we just need to buy a really large bit of land in kuranda or somwhere, really cheap to by up the tablelands. then start our own community :D , maybe even declare it a new country, "ethnoland". im sure there is stuff like that allready going on up there. we could supply tropical ethnobotanicals and organic produce. lol that makes 3 of us.

[mescalito]

Gimme a couple of months to get my car rego'd and that'll make 4 :D

[reptyle]

are you even slightly serious? i hope so.

[reshroomED]

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I wonder at the current legality of actually "founding" a town on crown land. After all, every town started as one house.

I new a few blokes in Tassie who'd had squatters move into their unoccupied rental houses, and they couldn't legally throw them out. From memory the squatter's legal stand was they they had no-where else to go, and evicting them made them destitute.

What a load of bullshit.

But maybe even harder to eject you from crown land?

Or perhaps a 100yr lease on some government land. Usually pretty cheap (I assume this is done in QLD).

ed

[Owtovit]

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I'll help start up the brewery!

If we can somehow manage to make it its own country i'll start up the distillery too! :D

[occidentalis]

Sounds good

Save me a nice quiet spot by a creek and I'll be there in a year or two... hopefully all cashed up and well educated.

Can we name our town tryptaminia?

[teonanacatl]

this might help, its about freehold land and crown land.

http://www.nrm.qld.gov.au/land/state/pdf/l..._tenure_qld.pdf

couldnt we just take over a area lol. im seriously up for it. neone grown cows for milk before????? or meat, surly its not to hard???? disregarding legal issues ethnobotanical crops could be, kava, kratom, sally, mate, coca, viridis, caapi, betel nut, galbulimima.

[teonanacatl]

rebublic of molossia in western USA,

http://www.molossia.org/countryeng.html

[mescalito]

Quote Rev:"Well i can only say what ive seen

and ill take it from the perspective your after a life thats pretty laid back with minimal stress so u can do your thing unhassled"

YUP!

No matter what I do lately it just seems to lead nowhere and cost me heaps one way or another. :confused: I'm living in a small country town pretty well because I was NOT looking after my own interests and direction so it was only a matter of time before everything fell apart and left me feeling this way.

I would definitely be up for starting over again in such a community so I can further develop the skills and interests I've grown to love more than the consumerism and regimen of the crap that's going on around me atm.

The big plus with living in a close-knit community is not only shared interests but obviously the commonality of the problems that need to be addressed and defeated by similar minded peeps.