wert Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Wert Kilp says WTF is with census this year (2016)? Its always a waist of your time n effort imo but theres a little more to it this time round. It had my partner and I arguing straight up. She wanted to fill it out and ommit our names... I wanted her to throw the fuckin thing on the bin immediately! Whats peeps thoughts on this rubbish? Is it an attempt to raise revenue through fines or somat simple or is it a deeper trick? Or are we paranoid? Apologies if this has been covered I searched and found sfa so chucked this crap in the days of our lives. Be happy. Wert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2XB Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 seems weird, how are they issuing fines??? Is the census number registered with a residential address/household? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
at0m Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 The stats gained through the census help the country improve and understand itself. The names are dumb. Fill it out without the name, chances are you won't be fined. They have the power but don't like to use it unless you're being a dick to them/the census agents. You'll likely need a paper form though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distracted Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Put everyone's names as 'Not Sure' So far we haven't done it in our house and no-one's talked about it. Great success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visceral420 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Their site isn't even working anyway >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortly Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 After this debacle, my guess is the ABS will be privatized & sold off in the not to distant future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuserformallyknownasd00d Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 God bless my women. Entering all our personal details and pressing submit before the thing got "hacked" debacle is right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazonian Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Just heard the 2016 census will cost Australian tax payers 470 mill' over 5 years. Uhg. I received a paper form in the mail to complete and I just put an initial for first names. One of the questions was like "did person 1,2,3 (etc) do any non paid work around the house, ie; maintainence, gardening ......." . How is that helpful information for infrastructure?! . All that may show is we're lazy Ozzies, lol. It also asked who you work for, the address of the company , and of course how much you earn. I'm sure each time census comes around, they add more questions?! Census makes me so angry. Invasion of privacy. Grrrrrr. I believe in the future that everyone will be bar coded and have tracking device and traceable through satellite, not in my time, but I'm sure it will happen. Let's revolt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewolf Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Privacy is already dead. It's not like the census is going to suddenly reveal details that aren't already freely available. There are a dozen institutions with all your info already. Banks when you take out a loan combined with what the ato knows could practically fill out the census for you. There are a few questions regarding habits for travel that aren't already on file but that's about it. Combine that with the amount of shit most people put out there on Facebook and the government already has a complete picture of who you are. The moment it becomes economically feasible for law enforcement to track and monitor everything you do they will. Data retention laws prove that it will get through Parliament without a hitch. I really see this as a footnote to the trajectory we are on to becoming a stereotypical dystopian future. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherealdrifter Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 in the future if you don't fill in the census form this happens....... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStu Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 "Give the government all your private information citizen, or we'll throw you in jail" what does that sound like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStu Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 11 hours ago, stonewolf said: Privacy is already dead. It's not like the census is going to suddenly reveal details that aren't already freely available. There are a dozen institutions with all your info already. Banks when you take out a loan combined with what the ato knows could practically fill out the census for you. There are a few questions regarding habits for travel that aren't already on file but that's about it. Combine that with the amount of shit most people put out there on Facebook and the government already has a complete picture of who you are. The moment it becomes economically feasible for law enforcement to track and monitor everything you do they will. Data retention laws prove that it will get through Parliament without a hitch. I really see this as a footnote to the trajectory we are on to becoming a stereotypical dystopian future. i've heard this argument. the difference is all that is voluntary, the census is not fine if people want to volunteer their information, that's up to them. but when an entity with the size and strength of the state forces you to hand it over under threat of violence, then that's a problem. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Shame they couldn't lodge them all online, then the lot could be uploaded to the CIA's huge computer. At least one politician refused to put his name on. One thing's for sure - all the residents of Uncle Sam's secret bases here would be exempt. Tonight on TV - Qld cops have got 60 cars around the state with a camera snapping 16 regos per second and they're going to keep all the info for 5 years. Even the police minister is confused. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naja naja Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I just "went camping". Seeing as you can only fill in the form if you stay at that residence on that night. I did not want t break any laws and fill it in if I was not "at home". So I wasn't. Simple. And I wasn't on anybody else's form as I was not at their house either. Simply camping by the river in the bush. There was no section for this allowance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortly Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I was up in Ningi country camped by a freshwater lagoon behind the dunes on census night. Was far to busy catching taylor & ugari down on the beach to be contemplating filling in forms. Not that i am in one place for more than a few nights a week these days anyway. I wonder if that makes me transient or just a wombat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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