dawnbeaver Posted December 20, 2013 Being a newbie I am unsure if these are anything to get excited about. Grown from seed, the first pic shows two Echinocactus grusonii one appears to have 2 and a half heads, I am sure this was not caused by an injury. The second grew from a packet of seeds I received marked "mixed Loph" and seems unusually long with extra areoles across the top, I'm unsure if it is even a loph as it looks unlike the others that came up out of that packet. Are these crested or monstrose? If so, should I graft them or do anything special? Thanks! I really appreciate the expertise that gets shared on here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogfrog Posted December 21, 2013 Oh yeah.. I see what you mean! Probably too small to say for certain, but I would graft them just in case. I had a tiny little crested loph that came from mixed seed which I tried to grow on its own roots, it struggled for a whole 2 years before finally dying, so I would definitely graft any funky or odd looking seedlings now, just to secure the genetics if they are indeed monstrose. Nice work man 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted December 21, 2013 Wow. Those are looking awesome. The loph definitely looks like a crest and the trich looks pretty wacky. I'm rooting for ya that they turn into cacti monstrosities. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawnbeaver Posted January 7, 2014 I've grafted them, the possible crested loph onto a TB, it appears to be greening up which I take as a good sign... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawnbeaver Posted January 7, 2014 And the Echinocactus grusonii, onto a TP appears also to be doing well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EthnoGuy85 Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) The lopho looks promising. Keep us posted on their progress Edited January 9, 2014 by EthnoGuy85 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mitchell101 Posted January 10, 2014 Thanks for IDing my seedling :D I had a seedling which I didn't know what it was because I don't label my seedlings but now I know it's E. Grusonii! And that loph is definitely looking promising! Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawnbeaver Posted January 13, 2014 The loph is going well... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted January 13, 2014 I think it's either a crest or double headed. Looking good man. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
modern.shaman Posted January 17, 2014 It is most likely just Dichotomous(double headed) however be aware that polytomy is a form of crested and that could be a good cactus for a breeding program. I have a graft that made two double headed pups which I thought at first was crested as well. When crested it would continue to have an elongeted growing point rather then distinct apex as you can now make out on your graft. The areole in the center will likely be the last from the center. If your lucky one of the apex may later become crested. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prier Posted January 17, 2014 Don't get over excited. most seedlings do weird shit in the first year. I have watched countless "crested seedlings" grow out, it's really disappointing at first then you get used to it. wait at least three years before making claims about monstrose seedlings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawnbeaver Posted February 11, 2014 Thanks guys, I'm thinking they are Di or Trichotomous... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
