2XB Posted November 14, 2013 So all my plants have been typically grown without fertilisers but this season I started using a liquid fertiliser. 1/2 strength and used once every 2 to 3 weeks, and building up to almost weekly since hot weather has hit hot. Not every water has the fertz tho... Havent had too much rain but with my waterings theyve been getting plenty enough. So anyway theyve all started pupping like crazy. All shapes and sizes, cuts and from seed... all of my cacti are giving pups. And im finding new ones almost every couple days.... So I guess my question is; Is this happening because of the type of fertiliser im using. Or that im simply using fertiliser at all?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolname Posted November 14, 2013 that seems to happen when you use high nitrogen fertilizer. i have noticed the same thing using miracle grow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2XB Posted November 14, 2013 So coolname; Would you reckon that is a good or bad practice?? I love my plants pupping but are there negatives to forcing it to do so with high nitrogen?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cactuscarl Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Mine are doing the same but I've been giving them less fertilizer I think it's probably a combination of plant health, weather conditions and fertilizer rather than just fert but I assume its probably helping tho BTW I give my cacti heaps of fert ppl say not to but mine seem to love it. Edited November 14, 2013 by cactuscarl 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullit Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) drug them up we love it so do the plants Edited November 14, 2013 by bullit 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2XB Posted November 14, 2013 Dunno if we have similar weather at the moment or not cactuscarl.. I thought the same about weather. That is its been a fuckin hot and dry spring. sweet for cacti here. Now its getting humid..... I hope the sudden transition doesnt fuck with them... I thought the optimal conditions theory was out for me because ive got indoor outdoor and all sorts of different sun aspects going on and they all going off tap. Major constant is the food... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2XB Posted November 14, 2013 Also do cacti shit themselves and pup if conditions are shit??? Like a last flourish/ hu-ra.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullit Posted November 14, 2013 we live on the sunnycoast right?? anywho i hit my trichos with ferts [ seasol,blood n bone liquid, and a lil thrive now and then] and they love it!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawnbeaver Posted November 14, 2013 I find my trics dont flower when the nitrogen is high. Awesome growth and lot's of pups though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2XB Posted November 14, 2013 Ok Sweet. Ill keep giving them the supplents ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2XB Posted November 14, 2013 Oh shit hang on.. spanner in the works... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOnThen Posted November 14, 2013 The first 3 years of my addiction my Trichs were fed full strength miracle grow and week about seasole and other than having very healthy looking Trichs with plenty of pups there wasn't a problem. I have since changed to a lower N fertiliser to try and promote more flowering over the last season and this one. The first three years was a good test for what I was doing with them as I didn't move them at all but last year I moved the whole lot from one end of my yard to the other and so with the loss of all of the roots from under the pots and a lot sunnier location It will be a another year or so before I can tell if there is any real benefit as far as changing the fertiliser and growth / flowers go. Cheers Got Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2XB Posted November 14, 2013 Ps im talking all my cacti.. not just tric. Pup city... I guess I havent been able to gauge tric flowering as I have only a couple over a metre which I thought would flower this year.. but no signs so far... however all my other cactus flower fine with this diet.. I did see an interesting post today though from change that showed a tric super pedro with flowers and fruit which looked about 60cm in a pot.... I thought they needed to be much bigger... So, like adding nitrogen for growth and pupping is there a mineral to induce flowering???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOnThen Posted November 14, 2013 There is definitely more to getting Trichs to flower than just hight. The age of the original tip cutting can make a big difference in the first year. I have had and seen many times tip cuttings that are not even rooted or have just rooted flower but then not flower the next year. I have six foot Trichs that haven't flowered but I also have a 50 cm Yowie that flowered last year. The season before last the only Trich that flowered was a six foot plus Pach cutting then last year after the move I had six Trichs flower and now this year I mite get one or two to flower but if they do they will be very late. Cheers Got Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halcyon Daze Posted November 14, 2013 Also do cacti shit themselves and pup if conditions are shit??? Like a last flourish/ hu-ra.. You can definitely make the smaller type Echinopsis pup like mad by (fatally) damaging the core of the mother plant. -She'll put all her strength into the pups while dying her slow cruel death, enabling the pups to thrive. I'd say a combo of high temps, sunlight, water, nutrients and perhaps stresses would all contribute to cause a trich to pup like mad. And I think if these conditions continued for a while you would have a huge monster of a plant in no time. So what I'm saying is I think what you are doing is essentially fine and you should keep it up, but be careful not to over do it. Too much of any of these factors could become detrimental pretty darn quick. You can be walking a fine line when trying to maximise growth, especially when using ferts. Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullit Posted November 14, 2013 Ps im talking all my cacti.. not just tric. Pup city... I guess I havent been able to gauge tric flowering as I have only a couple over a metre which I thought would flower this year.. but no signs so far... however all my other cactus flower fine with this diet.. I did see an interesting post today though from change that showed a tric super pedro with flowers and fruit which looked about 60cm in a pot.... I thought they needed to be much bigger... So, like adding nitrogen for growth and pupping is there a mineral to induce flowering???? im not a cacti freak but with my trichs i hit them [like all my flowerin plants] hard with N based fert then when i c my plants wanting to branch and flower i hit it hard with potasium . potasuim = flowers !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terracottacactus Posted November 14, 2013 This is exactly what I was looking for. I'm about to go seasol crazy with all my trichs. I've watched my one really established scop double in size in the last 2 months, just by seasoling half strength every other week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellonasty Posted November 14, 2013 Just remember season is NOT a fertiliser. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOnThen Posted November 14, 2013 Nor is seasole Cheers Got 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellonasty Posted November 14, 2013 Lol GOT bloody autocorrect !! I won't fix it now or your post will be weird. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted November 14, 2013 Or even Seasol, GOT. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2XB Posted November 14, 2013 Sweet bullit thanks for the potasium tip. And halcyon daze great heads up I immediately think of 2 echinopsis I need to put in the infirmary. As for seasol, I dont use it but whats wrong with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOnThen Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Nothing wrong with seesol I love it but its not a fert but more of a tonic. Does wonders for stressed plants and just seems to make most plants look healthier. Seems to work on the root systems and make them perform better. This is all just my opinion and I am a mechanic not a horticulturist Cheers Got Edited November 14, 2013 by GoOnThen 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stillman Posted November 14, 2013 Triple boost 10 10 10 has made mine pup like mad I think the key is a balance nute for pupping and most probably the specific genetics of the cultivar. URL=http://s111.photobucket.com/user/stillmanz/media/Cacti/DSCF2534_zps435ab55b.jpg.html][/url] . 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellonasty Posted November 15, 2013 Nice looking trichos stillman 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites